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abu_rashid

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Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium
Reply #45 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 10:17am

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In practice, in a Sharia jurisdiction...

A rape victim, is required to prove that she was in fact raped.

As opposed to?

Are you suggesting a woman shouldn't have to prove she was raped? She could just claim someone raped her, and he should be instantly convicted? What kind of nonsense is this?

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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #46 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 11:17am I guess it would depend on how she was required to prove it.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #47 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 11:31am freediver wrote on Nov 8^th, 2008 at 8:57am: Actually, shifting from one foot to the other helps keep the blood flowing in your legs.. Thank you , Bernard. Jim Hacker
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52824 At my desk.	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #48 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 12:34pm Quote: Are you suggesting a woman shouldn't have to prove she was raped? To get justice brought upon her attackers, yes. To avoid death by stoning for adultery, no. Ultimately, she shouldn't 'have to' do anything. It should be her choice.
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22695 A cat with a view	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #49 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 2:00pm . freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2008 at 1:19pm: I was wondering when it would come to this. My God is bigger than their god!
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Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium
Reply #50 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 2:09pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 8^th, 2008 at 10:17am:

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In practice, in a Sharia jurisdiction...

A rape victim, is required to prove that she was in fact raped.

As opposed to?

Are you suggesting a woman shouldn't have to prove she was raped? She could just claim someone raped her, and he should be instantly convicted? What kind of nonsense is this?

abu,

Good point.

I didn't make my argument as clear as i should have.

abu,

Perhaps you can direct us [with a link] to the last instance, where a muslim woman did provide witnesses to her rape, before a Sharia court, and prove before a Sharia court, that she was raped - - - in Saudi Arabia ???

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52824 At my desk.	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #51 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 2:20pm Allow me: http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Deception_of_Non-Muslims#Islam_doe...
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #52 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 7:21pm Thank you, Sir Humphrey, facts at the fingertips again. Jim
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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #53 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 9:03pm Soren wrote on Nov 7^th, 2008 at 11:15pm: Think. In the end, you have to stand somewhere. Can't be shifting from one foot to the other all your life. then again I'm 25 and don't have to have everything figured out right now do I?
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Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium
Reply #54 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 9:33pm

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2008 at 9:03pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 7^th, 2008 at 11:15pm:

Think. In the end, you have to stand somewhere. Can't be shifting from one foot to the other all your life.

then again I'm 25 and don't have to have everything figured out right now do I?

It is never too early to grow a character.

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Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium
Reply #55 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 9:37pm

Soren wrote on Nov 8^th, 2008 at 9:33pm:

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2008 at 9:03pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 7^th, 2008 at 11:15pm:

Think. In the end, you have to stand somewhere. Can't be shifting from one foot to the other all your life.

then again I'm 25 and don't have to have everything figured out right now do I?

It is never too early to grow a character.

I feel I have character, I also feel I have morals and values. But I do not assume I know everything- so I try to find things out, investigate things-and approach things with an open mind.

this doesn't make me someone without character

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #56 - Nov 8^th, 2008 at 10:28pm Very well, as long as you know what in your characteer and values is not to be sacrificed or thrown overboard at the first sign of forceful disageement or threats or whiney accusations of political incorrectness. I am looking forward to witnessing your 'I stand here and can do no more' moment.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41373 Gender:	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #57 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 1:01am gaybriel - Abu has banned me from the islam forum. As one with character, morals and values what do you think of htis action ?
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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium Reply #58 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 2:47am Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 1:01am: gaybriel - Abu has banned me from the islam forum. As one with character, morals and values what do you think of htis action ? it depends on why he banned you- let's not continue this discussion here though- I see you have another thread about it
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