It was dirty and ugly and disgusting.

The men who were there, on the track, (and as an aside, I never spoke to any of them who called it anything other than the track, so please, no-one call it a trail, that is american speak) only ever spoke of their mates, never of patriotism, they saw too much of what that hollow chant can deliver, to fall for that trap, they leave that sort of empty rhetoric to politicians.

I can see where keating is coming from, and to some extent see his point, but as it was the first major campaign where aussies fought as aussies, it derives it's significance from that fact alone, in the scheme of important battles, it was a non event.

Also, at kokoda, the diggers still fought, died, and were buried, fighting for their king, under the union jack.

The cur blamey, was lucky not to be lynched by his own men, he was universally despised by all.

Terror, bravery, filth, disease, hatred, compassion, starvation, heroism, cruelty, brotherhood, and horrors not suitable to speak of, that was their tale.

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Turnbull vs Rud

A shorter list would be which ones don't suck.

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OK, maybe one was a bit optimistic.

Oh, and ANZAC Cove is sacred ground. Can't completely blaim the Turks for thinking we don't feel that way though. The last few years of rock festivals and the appalling amount of rubbish left behind would not suggest the respect it deserves.