Abu - muslims aren't accepting of our laws.
They want to change our laws to suit their beliefs.


that was not terrorism - you have lost on this one already.


tell us the difference between the bali bombers and the bali nine.

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Well if someone of my 'ilk' said it, that's tantamount to me saying anyway.

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This is my home, and has been for my family probably longer than yours. Where do you suggest home is? My home is right here. If anyone should be leaving, it should be xenophobic bigots like you, whose views are contrary to Australia's anti-discrimination laws.

I didn't ask anyone to kowtow to me, and neither do most Muslims. Things like halal food and teaching about ramadan etc. are usually incentives undertaken by decent non-Muslim Australians who either like to reach out and understand their fellow Australains, or realise there's a tidy profit to be made, unlike bigots such as yourself, who really have no place in our society with your extremist and hate-filled views.

"THE mother of two of the Bali bombers on death row says her sons were right to "kill infidels", as they prepare to face firing squads over the attacks which killed 202 people.

Seventy-year-old Tariem spoke today in her house in the village of Tenggulun, East Java, after working all day in her fields and visiting the mosque.

"I don't cry. I leave it all to God," she said as convicted terrorists Amrozi and Mukhlas, two of her 13 children, waited for the firing squad in a prison on the other side of Java.

"I feel that killing infidels isn't a mistake because they don't pray," she said as she sat on the stone floor of the family home surrounded by Amrozi's children and wife.

"My sons are right. I wake up at 2.00am every morning to pray for their safety."

The old woman coughed and asked for medicine as she spoke, and appeared confused about her sons' fate, asking: "Will my sons be executed?"

None of the bombers' relatives here expressed regret for the carnage unleashed on October 12, 2002, when bombs tore through packed tourist nightspots on the resort island of Bali.

More than 160 foreign holidaymakers including 88 Australians were killed in the blasts, one of the worst terror atrocities in the name of Islam since the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

Another son, Ali Imron, is serving a life sentence for his role in the plot.

"As prayer leaders my sons would lead prayers at the mosque but they don't do that anymore. I miss that," Tariem said.

"I want my sons to be safe and for them not to be executed."

Authorities have said Amrozi, 47, Mukhlas, 48, and Bali ringleader Imam Samudra, 38, will be executed by firing squad any time from midnight today to mid-November. The family should be notified three days in advance.

Younger brother Ali Fauzi, 38, said the family had made no plans for funerals and had not been informed about the executions, adding he was sure Amrozi and Mukhlas were on the "right path" in their final days.

"I met both of them last month and they told me, 'don't be sad'. They always look so happy and I'm sure they're fighting on the right path," he said.

Looking relaxed and beaming broadly like his older brother Amrozi, known as the "smiling assassin" for the grin he sported throughout his trial, Fauzi said the family had nothing to be ashamed about.

"Do we feel embarrassed or ashamed of what they have done? No, we feel proud because in this world full of lies and accusations there are still people who are ready to fight against that," he said.
"If they're executed we'll bring them back home and conduct prayers. Then we'll bury them at a site which we can't tell you about.

"We don't want any autopsy because although the soul is no longer there, the body can still feel pain."

Neighbours in the village expressed little sympathy for Amrozi and Mukhlas.

"They should be executed because all of us should be peaceful toward one another," said Sulastri, a neighbour.

Village chief Djarum said losing any of his neighbours was like losing one of his own family, but he did not support the bombings.

"I'm sad but I'm not proud of what they did because Islam is a peaceful religion," he said.

Shop-owner Mahfud Hasan said he had known Amrozi since they were children.

"I didn't believe it until I saw him confess on TV and I was so shocked," he said.

Students at the Islamic school where Fauzi teaches Koranic studies said they were banned from reading newspapers or watching television.

But they were hungry for news.

"I feel sad that they're being executed because they're Muslims like me, so I sympathise with them," said 20-year-old student Mohammad. "



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24584550-12377,00.html


Amadd - yep, satanists would not do this.

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A very large % of Muslims in Australia are born here. Why do you consider them foreign? Because they have a different religion to the mainstream? Aren't you an atheist anyway? You really don't make a lot of sense, unless we consider you're just a xenophobe.

If someone migrates to Australia and takes out citzenship aren't they an Australian? Or do they always remain a 'foreigner' in your eyes? 'legal aliens'? And then you wonder why they don't feel a part of Australia, no wonder with such attitudes like yours 'welcoming' them. you're really a disgrace to Australia.

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Does that go for greenies as well? And for socialists? and for anarchists? And for gun lobbyists? And for anyone else who seeks to assert their democratic rights? Or are such restrictions only applicable to Muslims? Again, you are a disgrace and you stand in opposition to everything I grew up knowing about my country. I really can't fathom how you can claim you're sticking up or Australia, whenever word you type just completely contradicts the foundations that Australian society is built upon.

Like with our freedom and our security, our sense of compassion, tolerance and community spirit is fast going out the window. All in the name of fighting the imaginary 'war on terror'. People like you, seek to use propagandous myths to erode the fabric of Australian society, and then claim you are it's protector and harbinger.

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Either you don't understand them, or you're not being honest here. What you seem to be standing for are not Australian values. They are xenophobic and totalitarian values, funnily enough, the same thing you accuse Islam of.

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Bravo, nice way to speak about the religion of some of your fellow Australians. It's quite obvious you're only interested in hostility and division. You claim to believe in Australian values, but iot's quite obvious from statements like this you do not. Australian values include a fair go, they include egalitarianism, they include freedom of religion, they include the democratic process. Yet with your post you wiped most of them out in one shot.

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Islam can't even run it's own countries let alone take over the world. You've really let Bush and co. urinate in your ear a little too much. Islam does seek to see all humans become Muslims, as do Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses and probably hundreds more religions. So what? Does that mean when the JW's bash on my door this Sunday morning, I should get up and tell them to get out of Australia, because I don't want religions here that believe in spreading themselves?

abu - very immature of you to ignore me.

tried burying your head in the sand too??

What about ignoring questions, or diverting, threatening or deleting ??


I'm so glad you are not a christian

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 12:14am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 12:44am:


yes- and?

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no we haven't