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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Bali bombers execution should be televised.. Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:49pm I want to see it. And I want to see DNA samples. Ordinarily, I'm against executions, but this one I want to see with a passion. I've already had a good laugh at the fading smirk on the face of Amrozi, now I want to see him writhe in pain. I hope that the first shot takes out an eye, the second a testicle, if he has any.
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Reply #1 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:57pm

Amadd wrote on Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:49pm:

I want to see it. And I want to see DNA samples.

Ordinarily, I'm against executions, but this one I want to see with a passion.
I've already had a good laugh at the fading smirk on the face of Amrozi, now I want to see him writhe in pain.

I hope that the first shot takes out an eye, the second a testicle, if he has any.

That is sick. Mad dogs should be shot but not as part of plebeian spectacle or they will be transform into martyrs.

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Reply #2 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 10:23pm

..then he should be flayed. Peel back his skin starting at the fingertips and toes. Cover him with salt and watch him scream.
Just before his dying breath, then whisper in his ear...this is more fun than 10,000 virgins.

Tow his mangled corpse across the ocean by ship and then across Australia behind an FJ Holden.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

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Reply #3 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 10:30pm

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Ordinarily, I'm against executions, but this one I want to see with a passion.

It's funny how when things get a little close to home, morals and reservations go straight out the window, isn't it...

I remember one time a friend telling me how a girl he worked with would always question him about why Palestinians were always so violent, and he tried to convey to her some of the reasons behind their actions. She didn't get it, and insisted they were just insane. Then one day she came to work cursing about her car being stolen and how she'd "kill the mongrels if I ever got a hold of them". So the guy asked her if she really meant it, or was just a little overcome, and she replied that no she'd really liked to see them killed if they got caught. Rather than bothering to show her how much of a hypocrite she was, he just shook his head and decided not to bother wasting his time.

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Bali bombers execution should be televised.. Reply #4 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 10:42pm This torture isn't my own invention...I borrowed it from guess who? And they employ it against people who merely have different beliefs, not those who provide a suffering death to hundreds of people and ruin the lives of their families.
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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: Bali bombers execution should be televised.. Reply #5 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 11:26pm pleasuring in the pain of others is sick Amadd what disgusting sentiments. I think this whole thread should be deleted
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Reply #6 - Oct 29^th, 2008 at 5:31am

Gaybriel,

It's the sentiments of an atheist 'humanist' who has no moral compass. So when something severe like this happens, they become even more extreme than the most rabid foam-mouthed religious loon. It's funny because they constantly criticise and condemn religious people for reacting to strongly when they're subjected to, what is often, far worse suffering than this.

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Reply #7 - Oct 29^th, 2008 at 5:49am

I oppose capital punishment, not on the moral principle of it being inherently wrong, but in the fact that I trust no government institution to always rule fairly on matters of life and death.

Indonesia poses a different question, because life in jail, which they deserve, could mean that the next government, or next holy ramadan day, or whatever, they all get a lollipop and go home to plot their next mass murder.

It does change the question, because these men never deserve the right to walk free.

But I know that I take no joy from the thought of people dying, I know that many want vengeance for their barbarity, but vengeance, like hate, is a self consuming and negative emotion which is best avoided, wherever possible.

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Reply #8 - Oct 29^th, 2008 at 8:47am

Like Mozzaok, I also am against capital punishment.
It is not a deterrent against the crime, ie others commit the same criome.
I feel we are not meant to kill others, even “in the name of justice”.

Some crimes (I am thinking of those against kids) make me think the criminals should never be allowed to be free.
So life in prison. Give them some menial task, so we get something from them.

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Reply #9 - Oct 29^th, 2008 at 11:21am

I also oppose capital punishment....for everyone. I find it hypocritical that some people oppose it for the bali 9 (granted their crime was different) while support it for the bali bombers. But, it is the law in Indonesia so there isn't anything we can do about it. And I don't think the world will miss them.

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Reply #10 - Oct 29^th, 2008 at 6:28pm

Let the punishment fit the crime I say.

Unfortunately birds of a feather flock together.
I haven't seen too much condemnation for the atrocities that have been committed under the banner of Islam from those of their own religion.
Believe it, Islamicists are of an irrational brotherhood. They discount the most heinous of atrocities committed by their brothers because they are too scared to stand up for what they truly believe.

Truth is not part of the Islamic religion. It's quite OK to deceive the infidel according to the quran.
Therefore, I don't trust them. I want to see that these Bali bomber scum are removed from the face of the earth, and I want hard evidence to prove it! Show me the video, I'll watch it with glee. Prove to the Australian public that they are dead.
They have shown absolutely no remorse at all for their actions, in fact Amrozi stated that if he was released, he'd do it agian.
He is not part of humanity as far as I'm concerned. Give him the ultimate punishment.

Also, I would like to see Australian doors shut to those of the Islamic faith. I can't stand them leeching off of our hard work and then trying to turn our country into a mini Islam. Make your own way with your ridiculous beliefs and see how far it gets you.

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Reply #11 - Oct 29^th, 2008 at 6:55pm

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Also, I would like to see Australian doors shut to those of the Islamic faith. I can't stand them leeching off of our hard work and then trying to turn our country into a mini Islam. Make your own way with your ridiculous beliefs and see how far it gets you.

And what about those Muslims, like the Afghans who helped build this country from day one? Or Australains like myself who embrace Islam? Should belief in Islam be banned altogether? Or the Aboriginals, some of whose ancestors became Muslims at the hands of Indonesian fishermen before Europeans even arrived?

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And what about those Muslims, like the Afghans who helped build this country from day one? Or Australains like myself who embrace Islam? Should belief in Islam be banned altogether? Or the Aboriginals, some of whose ancestors became Muslims at the hands of Indonesian fishermen before Europeans even arrived?

Surely you jest?
The Chinese played a far far larger part in the development of this country than any muslim ever did.

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History of immigration from Afghanistan

Source: Museum VictoriaThe first Afghani people to arrive in Australia during the 1860s were cameleers, entering Australia with travelling papers obtained while working in British India. They worked in nearly all areas of transportation including exploration, mining and the supply of provisions to homesteads. Few settled in Victoria: in 1901, the Afghani population included only eight males and no females.

With the introduction of cars and trucks into Australia during the 1920s, the Afghan cameleers became redundant. Some returned to Afghanistan, while others became small property owners.

For those of this country who embrace Islam, then they should realise what they are actually getting into.
What happens to those who grow intellectually and decide to change their minds?

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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Bali bombers execution should be televised.. Reply #13 - Oct 29^th, 2008 at 7:29pm Quote: Aboriginals, some of whose ancestors became Muslims at the hands of Indonesian fishermen before Europeans even arrived? You can't seriously believe that hokum abu, it is myth making BS.
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Reply #14 - Oct 29^th, 2008 at 7:30pm

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Surely you jest?
The Chinese played a far far larger part in the development of this country than any muslim ever did.

Since I didn't compare their contribution to that of the Chinese that's irrelevant. I asked you about whether you think those Australian Muslims, who've been here for generations longer than even many white Australians shouldn't be allowed to be here.

Btw, our north-south railway is called the 'ghan, not the 'nese for a reason. Afghan Cameleers played a very important part in our early history, and were instrumental in many of the early explorer's success. I must admit I don't know much about Chinese contributions to Australian history.

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For those of this country who embrace Islam, then they should realise what they are actually getting into.
What happens to those who grow iintellectually and decide to change their minds?

Since most are grown adults, I think they're aware of what they're embracing. I've never heard of an Australian changing their mind and reverting to disbelief. Not saying it ccan't happen, but it's highly unlikely to, and even if it did, I don't understand it's relation to my questions...

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