oceanz wrote on Dec 15^th, 2007 at 8:14am:





I can see that a few ppl, Christians here, who have a problem reconciling the existence of Dinosaurs / evolution, with a creation by God.

For myself, this is not a problem.

I firmly believe in creation, and i believe in a 'Young Earth'.



The only real problem is that, today, there is a lack of awareness, among Christians, of the overwhelming evidence, and information, which supports a creation, and a young earth.

The ungodly [God deniers] have been very successful in suppressing much of this information, TRUTH.

The free dissemination of information on the net today, has been able to reveal much of this suppressed information.





Before you dismiss this assertion [above], please, may i suggest you view the video seminars of Kent Hovind,

Go to....

http://www.drdino.com/downloads.php

Select, 'Seminars Video', then click, Display.

If you hold the mouse over the links which appear, they will reveal links to, Hi or Lo definition d/loads in wmv format.

I got the Lo definition videos, and they view ok for me.


Each video seminar is about 2 hrs long!
....but these presentations by Hovind are quite entertaining, and they are very informative.

Just watch the first one, The Age of the Earth, before deciding on viewing the others.




In watching these video seminars, i was not disappointed.

Any devout Christians who watch these video seminars, may, or may not, be convinced by Hovind's arguments, and the evidence he presents,
but they will not be disappointed, or bored!

freediver wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2008 at 4:39pm:




freediver, I am always behind the times on these forums.


Please, can you move my post to a new thread, or must i do this myself?

Done alright..like a dodo.

Shirley you can't be serious?

It is a waste of time Sprint, it is just bible literalism, very silly stuff.
When Islam try and justify ancient texts as literal, we deride their foolishness, we cannot lower the bar for christianity.

Most christians are past needing to make absurd claims to justify their faith, but not all.

, indeed Jordan.
How many people have overwhelming evidence that a magician can make a train disappear?

Unfortunately, the standards of evidence required to appear overwhelming, to some, is frightfully underwhelming, to most.

I don't see how anybody can be an atheist and live with themselves?
Agnosticism I can unserstand, since there's so much organized religeon in the world. It's hard to trust one faith.
But at least they believe in a life after this one.
If you're putting your beliefs in atheism, you're basically saying "My life has no purpose, I've got one life, then nothing at all. I'm gonna do the best I can and (not) live with it"

Where the hell did this quote come from.?? The above shows oceanZ' reply, but who said the first bit?

A few quotes from Martin Luther, the father of Protestantism:

Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, to the closets.
Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148

People gave ear to an upstart astrologer [Copernicus] who strove to show that the earth revolves, not the heavens or the firmament, the sun and the moon. Whoever wishes to appear clever must devise some new system, which of all systems is of course the very best. This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy; but sacred scripture tells us [Joshua 10:13] that Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not the earth.
Martin Luther, "Works," Volume 22, c. 1543


Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God.
- Martin Luther

At least in the 15th Century, they were honest about it.

locutius wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 9:03am:


It's from Labor man. Follow the link at the top of the quote.