Islam believes itself to be the one true religion.

The Koran the unadulterated word of God.

All must submit to Islam eventually.

Whether by free will or by the sword.

lol

won a bet with myself on this one sprint.

I bet none of them would come near this topic...  the truth is too painful and hard to defend against.

Grendel wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2008 at 1:55pm:


World submission??? World domination??? Hahahahahahahaha!!! In your twisted, WACIST and delusional world, Grendal!!! You wacist!!!

As Abu and BR would say, what a downright wacist, bigoted and absurd thing to say, Grendal.

Not only is what you're saying absolutely not true, there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest Islam is anything but a peaceful religion intent on getting along with everyone. You're clear wacism and KKK behaviour is just blinding you from what's really true, Grendal. You deserve to die!!! Die wacist, die!!!

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Not good to gamble.

Yes of course Islam aims for total world domination, as do all ideologies. Just that most others are much less honest/open about it.

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This sentence doesn't make a lot of sense when we consider the meaning of Islam (submission). All must submit to submission eventually... Submission to submission?

All must submit to the Creator eventually I think you mean.

ROTFLMAO
You are way too easy aboo...  back with the pedantry eh  

I know what Islam means.

I also know what Islamics want for the world.  Hitler was the last one that tried that.

Good to see you don't even attempt to refute the TRUTH.

Unfortunate that it is the truth and you accept it blindly and happily.

mozzaok,

Unfortunately for you, there's a 2000 year history of Christianity that shows that it was spread often by violent conflict and total decimation and eradication of any pre-existing ideologies/beliefs.

And likewise there's a 1400 year history of Islam that shows it was spread by missionary activity, which was accompanied by military support, and that almost every single pre-existing belief/ideology STILL REMAINS till this day, in most cases over 1000 years later. Proselytisers to Islam from amongst the companions of Muhammad (pbuh) reached China to preach Islam, no army accompanied them...

It's quite obvious to anyone with an objective bone in their body which ideology was spread by "the baldfaced arrogance to demand capitulation to their beliefs, under a vile threat of violence and death."

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 12:10am:


for real?? I always thought of christians being the most active in the attempts to 'convert the world'

Grendel wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 9:07am:


what about door knockers? and missionaries are still at it.

They were in Thailand when I was there after the tsunami. I believe it went "come to our church or we won't build you a house".

Sounds forced to me.

I'm not saying this is all christians, but certainly the mission to convert has been a strong one within the christian tradition. Just because the tradition is less so now, doesn't mean it is discounted from the religion as a whole.

If Islam is constantly asked to answer for its history- why not christianity? Or do we only speak of christianity as it has been for the last few decades?

Gaybriel abd Abu -  Gosh yes !!!
Christians have done LOTS of bad stuff over the centuries.

but, this is a thread on islam, so should be kept to that topic.


yet again, feel free to start a thread on the new topic

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which is exactly in a number of quotes from the koran.

i am not aware of any other belief having that "demand"

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Now that the truth is out, what do the rest of us do about it? Any suggestions? Please note, this thread is about Islam and it's desire for world domination, go start another thread about other groups' quests for their world domination if you need to discuss anything other than Islam.

Well, since all knowing and all seeing abu said it's true, then it must be!!!

The only reason muslims bring in other religions is to try (poorly) to defend their own atrocities.

Let's concentrate on Islams desire for world domination, and what the rest of us need to do about it.

Actually, if you take a look back you'll find abu bought it up a couple of times before you even posted in this thread.

Anyway, let's keep this on topic. It's about Islam and their desire for world domination.

jordan484 wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 12:41pm:


so he did- but I see this as on topic- within certain limits.

how can one ascertain the desire for world domination without understanding what that means to islam? what it means for other groups? and what it has meant for groups past?

Well it wouldn't be acceptable or correct over here... so is it a Thai thing?  cultures and expressions etc differ you know... 

You say they all say this?  or you just believe someone said it?

It's obviously NOT a Christian thing to do or say.  So why portray it as such?

lol

No one said it had...  yet you spread heresay and crap.  based on nothing apparently.

Back to the topic

here are some quote from the koran/hadiths showing islam s goal is world domination

"Make islam the dominant religion over all other religions."

There are others about humbling the infidels, making them pay the extra tax in humiliation.

Sura 8:39 “Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and
Allah’s religion shall reign supreme.”

True Muslims fight for Allah.” (4:76).
4:104 Seek out your enemies relentlessly

5:34 Those that make war against Allah and his apostle and spread disorder in the land shall be put to death or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the land.
5:35 Fight valiantly for His cause, so that you may triumph.
5:39 As for the man or woman who is guilty of theft, cut off their hands to punish them for their crimes.
44:14-16 They denied him (Mohammed) saying: ‘A madman taught by others’. On that day we will inflict on them the supreme punishment and avenge ourself.

8:60 Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.

4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

8:39 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do.






there are many other like it. openly encouraging warfare and extremism till everyone is overwhelmed

Surely lestat and abu should have been able to post these for us ??

Grendel wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 9:07am:


this is what you said about the attempt to convert others (which is a big part of what missionaries do)- my comment was in response to that. so yes it was said

Could the mod delete the last 2  3 posts, persistantly offtopic

Grendel wrote on Oct 25^th, 2008 at 11:41am:


I read it within context- perhaps you should have clarified your statement that I quoted previously

could the mod at least move these offtopic posts to a new thread under the appropriate heading.

they have got nothing at all to do with the topic.