There probably is some racism in Australia, but to be totally honest, I've seen much more racism in other parts of the world, including the UK, and many parts of Africa. Yeah, as far as Europe goes, it seems to be worst in the Mediterranean countries.

Actually Switzerland is probably even worse, and it's state sponsored there!

fakir wrote on Jun 5^th, 2009 at 6:17am:



No Indian, fakir or not, is in a position to lecture whitey, Australian or not, about racism unless he has presented evidence of his efforts towards eliminating the most racist fakiring discriminatory system on the planet, vis. Indian caste system.

Where were you, daddy-o, when the call went up to end Indian racism?

Aussie wrote on Jun 7^th, 2009 at 7:29pm:



That is a novel argument. Your own?

Brutal truth about attacks

    * Paul Sheehan
    * June 10, 2009

An Indian male displays his injuries after a group of males attacked him as tensions boiled over in Harris Park last night.

An Indian male displays his injuries after a group of males attacked him as tensions boiled over in Harris Park last night. Photo: Kate Geraghty

ANOTHER bashing of an Indian student, another angry demonstration by fed-up Indian residents, another brick in the wall of the misconception that Indians in this country have become the frequent victims of violent white racism.

This misconception has hardened into belief in India, where widespread media coverage of the attacks has played on old sensitivities about the treatment of Indians by whites and white Australia.

The perception is wrong. Indian students are being attacked in Australia, with at least 100 incidents in Melbourne and Sydney during the past year. The violence is undeniable, the targeting of Indians is undeniable, and the problem is unacceptable and embarrassing.

But the distorted story of white racism has been helped along by the prevailing sensibilities of reporting of crime in Australia, with skittishness about detailing the gritty reality that most violent street crime in Sydney and Melbourne is not committed by whites. The prison populations confirm this.

The attacks on Indians have followed this pattern, with the crimes committed by a polyglot mix reflecting the streets - white, Asian, Middle Eastern, Aboriginal, Pacific Islander.

The most recent attacks, in Harris Park this week, allegedly involved assailants of the proverbial "Middle Eastern appearance". The assault on Monday night was followed by a retaliatory attack by a big group of Indians. Police said three men "of Middle Eastern appearance" were set upon in Harris Park after about 200 Indian men converged on the street after hearing of the latest attack. In Melbourne, an assault on an Indian student on a train was recorded on video and footage depicting the attack was posted on YouTube. The video shows a swarm of young men robbing and repeatedly attacking the student. Most of them do not appear to be white.

A recent assault on an Indian student in Glebe was committed by a young offender described as Aboriginal. Sydney University is bounded on the east and west by Glebe and Redfern and both have crime hot spots involving Aboriginal communities.

Another recent assault on an Indian student, by a knife-wielding assailant in Port Melbourne, involved three attackers identified as Caucasian.

The ethnicity of the attackers thus varies from crime to crime. The police are telling the truth when they describe the attacks as largely motivated by opportunism, because Indian students work late at night, live in lower-cost neighbourhoods, and are regarded as soft targets.

It is also true that Indians have been targeted, hence the demonstration by about 1000 Indian students in Melbourne 10 days ago, and this week's eruption by hundreds of Indian men in Harris Park, which has Sydney's largest concentration of Indian residents. The suburb has experienced a spate of attacks on Indians in recent months.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/brutal-truth-about-attacks-20090610-c2dm.html

Coral Sea wrote on Jun 11^th, 2009 at 3:42am:


You have no right to talk about Canada any more than I can talk about the US.  Although I can clearly see the level of representation of minorities on US TV, nevertheless I can obviously give no personal experience.  You can give no personal experience in either Australia or Canada, so your opinion is worth nothing.  Furthermore, you're not a minority, so what the hell do you know about racism?

Unlike what some people on this forum think, I am not trying to troll.  On the other hand, I want to make it painfully aware to anyone who reads this prominent (?) forum on Australia that Australians have a lot to change.  The status quo must go.

Oh look: more racism against the True Australians:
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,25649566-5017007,00.html

Now check out a similar story in Canada:
http://www.thestar.com/article/633589

See the difference?  400 students walked out in defence of the Korean.  Can you imagine that happening in Australia?

Want more proof?  How many derogatory names can you think of for Aboriginals?  I can think of 3 right now beginning with the letters A, B and C.  In fact now I know a fourth "C" name since watching "Australia".  Do you know how many derogatory names there are for Canadian Natives?  None!  In fact they are called "First Nations" - an honourary title!  Imagine that.  Do you still think Australia is as progressive culturally as it should be?

Since I've left Australia (about 12 years ago), there have been two racial riots, Pauline Hanson was elected into Parliament, and Chinese restaurants were firebombed.  Hmm - has Australia progressed culturally?  You tell me.

Obviously I am making a big deal of it because I live in Canada and I can see the difference.  I specifically moved to Canada because I didn't want my kids growing up experiencing the discrimination that I faced in Aus.  Does that shame you?  Probably not - you're probably glad I left, which proves my point.

Chinese restaurants were firebombed??????????????????????
Obviously not by Hanson
Oh ans since when is being elected into parliament by winning a previously ALP held seat seen as a race riot?  rotflmao

fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

You're quite free to talk about America.

fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

You do not know what my personal experience is with either nation (quite significant in the case of Canada), and appealing to experience (or lack thereof) is a logical fallacy.

fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

Minorities in fact have legally superior status to whites in my country, and in most Western nations statutes against "hate speech" are applied very unequally indeed.

fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

Perhaps Australians don't want to change?  Maybe those not satisfied with the status quo in Australia should leave?  I can't understand how immigrants can be so ungrateful after being welcome into a first world nation that they immediately seek to change it.

fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

True Australians?  They're a conquered people.


fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

Depending on the context, yes, but as a general rule, no.  Australians are also quite a bit less sensitive that Canadians and far more willing to take it on the cheek and get on with it.

fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

And despite this "honor" they routinely cause trouble and do things like block off railroads.  For the record south of the border we have a couple of names we could lend the Canucks.  Just where do you live in Canada that you never hear negative sentiments expressed against Indians?

fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

It seems to be far too progressive, like most Western nations.

fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

Well someone as ungrateful as you left, so that seems to be progress.


fakir wrote on Jun 18^th, 2009 at 3:02pm:

Perhaps you should go back to whatever country you're from instead of trying to tell Australians to change their country to suit you?