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Reply #75 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:50am
 
So your criticism is not that the government has actually banned dissent, but that people are not very nice to them?
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Reply #76 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:52am
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:45am:
and...

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~natinfo@ozemail.com.au/mc2.htm


DESTROYING THE AUSTRALIAN IDENTITY

The aim of multiculturalism is, in effect, to destroy the Australian national and cultural identity. This intended destruction is being carried out by a two pronged attack:

Firstly, the Australian identity is denied. Many academics, trendies and "lefties" maintain that Australia does not have its own national and cultural identity. They argue that Australian culture is either "British", or a multicultural mish-mash; they tell us that Australia has no culture of its own.

Ignored are the poets like Henry Lawson, Banjo Paterson, Rex Ingamells and Mary Gilmore; painters like Arthur Streeton, Frederick McCubbin, Sydney Nolan and Russell Drysdale; architecture such as the Federation style; music from Waltzing Matilda to the Seekers, to the Bushwackers, to Skyhooks; our heroes and heroines, for instance, Ned Kelly, Nellie Melba, Don Bradman, the ANZACs, and the men of the Kokoda Track; the Australian way of life, including the bush barbeque, Australian Rules Football, and games of Two-Up; Australian icons such as Vegemite, Goanna Oil, Hills Hoists, and Akubra hats; our entertainers and characters like Ginger Meggs, Chips Rafferty, Paul Hogan, Dame Edna Everage and Sir Les Patterson; our distinctive language, accent, and colloquialisms; the Australian character, styled as easy-going, fair and democratic, having a healthy disrespect for authority, and with a laconic humour; all shaped and influenced by the distinctive Australian landscape and our unique history.

Secondly, the destruction of our identity is being carried out by multiculturalism itself. From politicians and academics comes the cry "we are all ethnics", no-one is an actual Australian - everyone is an "ethnic". The origin of your parents or forebears dictates what type of "ethnic" you are: if you have English parents then you're an English "ethnic", if you have Irish parents then you're an Irish "ethnic", German parentage produces a German "ethnic", and so on. If one parent is French, and the other Russian, then it could be assumed that you have to pick just one ethnicity, or perhaps you could become a multicultural schizophrenic? Australia's culture is being undermined by the effects of the continual push for multiculturalism (especially in our educational institutions); we are now being taught to see ourselves as "ethnics", rather than as Australians, and this cannot help but to adversely affect our national cultural output and development.

The most serious aspect of all this is that of education. It is during the formative years of our young children that they are heavily indoctrinated by the education system into believing in multiculturalism (such indoctrination being made by both subtle means and overt means). No opposing viewpoints are given any credible airing (if given any "airing" at all), and multiculturalism is presented as a fact, rather than as a particular biased political viewpoint.

What began as a trendy liberalistic idea, and was picked up and carried along as a "migrant vote winner" for politicians, has become a huge menace to Australia's society and its culture.


I liked it better when you couldn't cut and paste ,boofy, cant you just put up a link? by you posting all your gander it just makes it tempting to read, and then I just get dissapointed at the fact it is just more biggoted hatred at those a little different to yourself.
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Reply #77 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:17pm
 
and...

http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/pc/multi3.htm

and...

http://jimball.com.au/Multi_C.htm

and...

http://www.ipa.org.au/news/527/popular-support-not-required/pg/2

Another lovely little nugget from the book is how the tactic of accusing critics and opponents of racism was established almost before multiculturalism itself as a term was. Then and since, multiculturalism has often provided examples of what might be called the motivational fallacy. In the case of multiculturalism, the fallacy works as follows: I advocate multiculturalism as a way of combating racism and prejudice, therefore, if you criticise multiculturalism you are guilty of racism and/or harbouring prejudice. This has a triple benefit as a mode of argument. It delegitimises critics and criticism, it elevates the mode of action or claim being defended and it establishes or reinforces that action or claim as a moral asset for its proponents.

Lopez shows how tarring critics of multiculturalism as racist was helped by Al Grassby having been subjected to a nasty campaign by racist splinter groups prior to losing his rural New South Wales seat in 1974 as payback for his abolition of the lingering remnants of the White Australia policy. That racists hate multiculturalism provides and provided guilt by association for other critics.

need I say more...?



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Reply #78 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:19pm
 
Oh dear...  fd asks for stuff and squippy complains about stuff...  hmmm.

Squippy...  and they wonder why I call some people idiots...

That dear rooboy was a teeny tiny excerpt.

Those interested can use the link to better inform themselves.
Something you should consider doing but then we both know that would just be a waste of time anyway.
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Reply #79 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:24pm
 
So dissent was never actually banned under certain governments as you claimed it was?
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Reply #80 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:24pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:19pm:
Oh dear...  fd asks for stuff and squippy complains about stuff...  hmmm.

Squippy...  and they wonder why I call some people idiots...

That dear rooboy was a teeny tiny excerpt.

Those interested can use the link to better inform themselves.
Something you should consider doing but then we both know that would just be a waste of time anyway.


Thats right, I leave that to the rightard gullible bigots who believe the crap.
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Reply #81 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:25pm
 
Please don't make this personal skippy.
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Reply #82 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:33pm
 
You gonna ban him?
Delete his useless comments?
Or let this turn into a flame-a-thon.

I'll get back to you and your rubbish shortly.

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Reply #83 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:44pm
 
Would you prefer I banned people as a first response rather than giving them warnings?
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Reply #84 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:54pm
 
lol
I never said dissent was banned.  YOU did...  another misquote.

Laws and tribunals were created to censor and stifle dissent and debate.  Name-calling and negative labelling was used to intimidate and silence.

Perhaps you shouldn't talk about things you are ignorant of...  or just accept the truth from people who know better and were there at the time.

It was unacceptable to the Left and to Multiculturalists to dissent from their POV...  it was not allowed to go unremarked, unpunished, un-libelled or un-slandered....  people were censored and example made of those who spoke out.  In their case....  the political cost made cowards of them all.  Nearly all and for a good many years.  Campbell was tossed out of the Labor party.  Blainey made an academic pariah.  Howard sent to the political wilderness for years.

Hanson should have sued...  so should everyone else treated similarly.  Luckily for some Parliamentary privilege lets one get away with many things.

To be in denial of these things and the prevailing atmosphere in society in general at the time is to be ignorant or a liar.
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Reply #85 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:57pm
 
So you've changed your mind now? Dissent was allowed?
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Reply #86 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 1:04pm
 
I don't believe in banning...  unless they are destroying a site.

I do believe in deleting real rubbish though that is not on topic.
Its like grafitti... you keep deleting it most people get the hint and stop...  squippy?  you'll just have to keep deleting.
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Reply #87 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 1:06pm
 
So you think people should be censored for straying off topic?
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Reply #88 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 1:11pm
 
Oh you mean I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BANNED AFTER ALL.....

YOU ARE FUNNY...  no apology for the misquote then?   Grin Grin Grin

No it wasn't allowed in those circles at all and it wasn't TOLERATED...  rabid and feral responses followed.  Funny isn't it the champions of TOLERANCE totally INTOLERANT!!!!!!

Murder isn't allowed, stealing isn't allowed...  yet they still happen.  Good grief.

If it was allowed we would have had a proper open public debate.  But anyone dissenting was called a racist.  So everyone quickly knew what subject wasn't allowed to be discussed or dissented from.

Hanson was howled down as a racist the first time she opened her mouth.  DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING?

When were you born?

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Reply #89 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 1:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:25pm:
Please don't make this personal skippy.


I didn't, thats why I never mentioned his name.

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