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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Migrant dissatisfaction rising across Australia Reply #30 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:39pm Might not be here soon DT, looks like fd is out to ban me permanently. Poor diddums. His loss. His latest contribution here is a prime example of someone who swallows propaganda.
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Reply #31 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:50pm

Sorry... b4 I'm ex-communicated.... this rubbish report ...

So lakemba/Bankstown/Auburn is not a ME enclave, Eastwood has no Asian enclave, Vietnamatta oops Cabramatta no Vietnamese enclave and never was the centre for drugs in Australia. There is no little italy or Chinatown.

There were no Asian and Middle eastern Crime squads created and if they were there was no reason for it. Certain ethnicities are not over represented in NSW gaols.

Hmmm... apparently we in the real world don't have a clue according to this report.

ROTFLMAO fd you have to be kidding... hey buddy, I got a big bridge to sell you... looks like a coathanger. Grin

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Reply #32 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 8:43pm

Grendel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 7:30am:

Well done DT... aboo showed us all his ignorance via stereotypical bigotry something he continually rails against... hypocrite that he is.

Before you crawl back under that rock you call home, please, explain to us all how exactly Abu's post was 'stereotypical bigotry'. Only one bigot here and I can assure you its not him. Oh...and please, if you are going to use the term 'hypocrite' I suggest that you first go and learn its meaning.

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Reply #33 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 9:06pm

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And so even non-arab Australian women who convert to islam tend - not always, of course - to speak like that even if Arabic is not a second laguage to them.

Yes, as do I. It's called Lebonics. What of it? In a few years we'll all be speaking it, if our grand master plan all falls into place Grin

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Reply #34 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 9:10pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Oct 14^th, 2008 at 10:46pm:

If you knew what I was doing right now, you'd probably laugh at the statement you just made too.

Anyway, I'm far too skilled, well-spoken, polite, intelligent, well-dressed, well-groomed and not to mention hygienic to worry about immigrants reducing my job opportunities, Abu. Employers would kill for an actual 'Aussie' like me. If anything, I'm sticking up for other Australians out of the goodness of my heart. Because unlike multiculturalism supporters and anti-wacists, I actually 'care' about other Australians.

hehe...you work in IT don't you...maybe Project management but more likely architecture...or senior developer.

I can smell out fellow IT nerd from miles away....

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Reply #35 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 9:51pm

Don,
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Anyway, I'm far too skilled, well-spoken, polite, intelligent, well-dressed, well-groomed and not to mention hygienic to worry about immigrants reducing my job opportunities, Abu.

You left out modest Wink

Anyway, I don't know why you're mentioning all that stuff. All you need to recognise now is that people of other 'races' can be all those things too, including blacks and other 'third worlders', and that many of them are already actually Australians.

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Because unlike multiculturalism supporters and anti-wacists, I actually 'care' about other Australians.

Just curious Don, by Australians in that statement, do you mean all Australian citizens? Or do you just mean white-anglo Australians? Also do you recognise north-east asian Australians to be superior to you?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Migrant dissatisfaction rising across Australia Reply #36 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 10:48pm Aboo? Whats up Lez... cant work it out for yourself. Pretty easy and almost self explanatory actually. Tell you what. I'll give you a day and if you are still totally clueless i'll tell you.
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Reply #37 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 10:48pm

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 9:06pm:

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And so even non-arab Australian women who convert to islam tend - not always, of course - to speak like that even if Arabic is not a second laguage to them.

Yes, as do I. It's called Lebonics. What of it? In a few years we'll all be speaking it, if our grand master plan all falls into place Grin

Lebonics accent - what of it? Well, it's like fat pizza - it's thick and it's cheesy...

We'll have to get Dr Higgins (or Davo) onto youse...

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HS7pn297E9E
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Reply #38 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:00am

Grendel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 10:48pm:

Aboo?

Whats up Lez... cant work it out for yourself.

Pretty easy and almost self explanatory actually.

Tell you what. I'll give you a day and if you are still totally clueless i'll tell you.

How bout we just cut to the chase and you just tell me now. Or do you need a day to think something up.?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Migrant dissatisfaction rising across Australia Reply #39 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:12am LOL You are funny. Nope. Knew exactly what i was talking about when i wrote it. Only someone in denial or particularly obtuse wouldn't get it. You still got a chance to guess.
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Reply #40 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:59am

Grendel wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:12am:

LOL
You are funny.
Nope.
Knew exactly what i was talking about when i wrote it.
Only someone in denial or particularly obtuse wouldn't get it.

You still got a chance to guess.

There's nothing to guess. Nothing he has said could be construed as bigotted. Fact is Australians are made up of all races, religons, colours and creed, unless of course you truly believe Australians are only white anglo saxons. Only then could you possibly interpret his comments to be bigotted, which really says more about you then it does about him.

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Reply #41 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:22am

Are you a bigot?
A racist?
A culturalist?
A muslim?

All the above?

Australia is a continent on the planet.
Australians are the vast majority of the people living there.

Race is not an issue.
Culture is.

Australian is a Nationality and that Nation has a culture. Other nationalities have their own unique culture. Some cultures are similar. Some are not. Some cannot abide others and under multiculti some are forced to tolerate others.

Australia is for all intents and purposes secular in nature. hence its people have freedom of religion and in having such a right they should respect the rights and beliefs of others up to a point. That point being where one religion seeks to dominate or supplant another or all others. Currently I can only think of 1 religion that holds that tennet.

Aboo used an old stereotype of the "lazy" Australian to describe all Australians. He was incorrect as has been clearly shown. Also he rails against such stereotyping of muslims. Hence he is a hypocrite too.

I hope all this hasn't taxed your brain too much.

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Reply #42 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:38am

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How is it supposed to work out? And how do you think it's worked out? Surely there are some ratbags amongst migrants, as there are amongst those who migrated here a century or two before them. Do you expect every single migrant to be a model citizen, or they should be shipped back home?

Abu - bit late to be answering this - but better late than never. Multiculturalism had started to work in a sort of way under the Hawke/Keating government. People in general were beginning to accept new Australians, although there was still a lot of resentment from older Australians. Personally I didn't have any problems with it.

Unfortunately under the Howard government the old divisive racial spruiking revived its ugly head and a whole young generation was raised by the media on terrorism, too many migrants taking our jobs and how dangerous and insular different races and religions were. I believe we are partly responsible for the violence problems we have with some of the Lebanese youth today. They were socially excluded from their peers and most of their parents lived through wars and had difficulty assimilating. This would apply to other races also.

Remember Howard's famous words "We will decide who comes to Australia". Those words made a huge impact on how many Australians view migrants - even older migrants whinge about the new ones.

Putting aside the above - I just think Australia has reached it's capacity for sustaining people at present. We should be cultivating and educating those who are here now and if we want a peaceful nation - the only way to do it is for more government indoctrination via the media - but in a positive way this time.

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Reply #43 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:42am

Actually mantra under those governments dissent was not allowed and people were vilified and discriminated against, for holding opinions that were not acceptable to the progressive left and multiculturalists. that might be why you thought it was being accepted. Believe me it wasnt. Not by those of us at the coalface, and it wan't just older australians either.

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Reply #44 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 10:47am

I probably didn't notice because the people I worked and socialised with didn't have any issues. To be honest all the new Australians I have ever met have always been very polite. Any knowledge of the terrible things that are supposed to be happening are only what I see in the media.

My children have had a lot more exposure to mutliracial/religious schooling, socially and in the workplace and they don't appear to have any issues either.

My biggest problem is overcrowding - oh and the cruel live animal export trade so the Jewish and Muslim people can eat their meat a certain way. These animal rites should be banned here as well.

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