Australian Politics Forum - Earmarks/guidelines to a cult

Lestat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1403	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #15 - Sep 29^th, 2008 at 3:05pm 6/ The leader is elevated to the status of God, or the son of God.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41397 Gender:	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #16 - Sep 29^th, 2008 at 3:13pm Thank you for adding to the list lestat. Well done.
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Reply #17 - Sep 29^th, 2008 at 4:51pm

7. A movement that separates itself from society, either geographically or socially;
8. Adherents who become increasingly dependent on the movement for their view on reality;
9. Important decisions in the lives of the adherents are made by others;
10. Making sharp distinctions between us and them, divine and Satanic, good and evil, etc. that are not open for discussion;
11. Leaders who claim divine authority for their deeds and for their orders to their followers;
12. Leaders and movements who are unequivocally focused on achieving a certain goal.

Sound like anyone we know?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #18 - Sep 29^th, 2008 at 5:12pm It's all explained to the barmaid here: http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/09/24/cult/
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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #19 - Sep 29^th, 2008 at 5:39pm Hahahaha! That was good. The shop was even better! I'm ordering one of those T-shirts.
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Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult
Reply #20 - Sep 29^th, 2008 at 9:44pm

jordan484 wrote on Sep 29^th, 2008 at 4:51pm:

7. A movement that separates itself from society, either geographically or socially;
8. Adherents who become increasingly dependent on the movement for their view on reality;
9. Important decisions in the lives of the adherents are made by others;
10. Making sharp distinctions between us and them, divine and Satanic, good and evil, etc. that are not open for discussion;
11. Leaders who claim divine authority for their deeds and for their orders to their followers;
12. Leaders and movements who are unequivocally focused on achieving a certain goal.

Sound like anyone we know?

Yeah...catholicism...but you did say not not to focus on the one religon, so please...could you stop attacking Christianity and focus on the topic.

Thanks.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41397 Gender:	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #21 - Sep 29^th, 2008 at 11:15pm we are getting a full list !! 13/ the cult will ascribe a terrible fear to some seemingly benign item. 14/ there is often some regular group activitly that tends to keep people "in line", controlled, brainwashed. Shall we call it quits at 20 ? If we get that far ?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #22 - Sep 30^th, 2008 at 9:27am Quote: 10. Making sharp distinctions between us and them, divine and Satanic, good and evil, etc. that are not open for discussion; Sounds like the central tenet of the religion of Bushism to me.
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Reply #23 - Sep 30^th, 2008 at 9:43pm

This is probably a fulll enough list.
Now comes the fun part.

We can see how various beliefs pan out, according to the list we have all compiled.

1/ The leader is not to be questioned.

2/ The leader is the ONLY one who "knows."

3/ Oh, I like the ones that have an "Alien" element in the belief.
A bit modern, but still pretty cool.

4 / Inevitably, men run it. Much as I dislike saying that one !!!

5/ The leader is a often a sexual deviant.

6/ The leader is elevated to the status of God, or the son of God.

7. A movement that separates itself from society, either geographically or socially;

8. Adherents who become increasingly dependent on the movement for their view on reality;

9. Important decisions in the lives of the adherents are made by others;

10. Making sharp distinctions between us and them, divine and Satanic, good and evil, etc. that are not open for discussion;

11. Leaders who claim divine authority for their deeds and for their orders to their followers;

12. Leaders and movements who are unequivocally focused on achieving a certain goal.

13/ the cult will ascribe a terrible fear to some seemingly benign item.

14/ there is often some regular group activitly that tends to keep people "in line", controlled, brainwashed.

Any other late additions to the cult list ???

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #24 - Sep 30^th, 2008 at 10:36pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 30^th, 2008 at 9:43pm: This is probably a fulll enough list. Now comes the fun part. We can see how various beliefs pan out, according to the list we have all compiled. Any other late additions to the cult list ??? 15 - Severe consequences result for those who wish to leave the group.
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Reply #25 - Oct 1^st, 2008 at 8:47pm

That's a pretty good list you have all assembled.

I would like to delete #4.
Though it is true, I can't think of any belief a woman has started.
So #4 would include every belief.

I would also like to delete # 6
From my memory, only christianity has a leader who fits this bill.
So the condition is prob more aimed at christianity, than a general indicator.

Apart from that I am happy with it.
We are now down to a significant 13 conditions !!!!!!!!!
Any other suggestions for inclusion/deletion??

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Reply #26 - Oct 3^rd, 2008 at 10:44pm

Here is our cult list.

1/ The leader is not to be questioned.

2/ The leader is the ONLY one who "knows."

3/ Oh, I like the ones that have an "Alien" element in the belief.
A bit modern, but still pretty cool.

4 / Inevitably, men run it. Much as I dislike saying that one !!!

5/ The leader is a often a sexual deviant.

6/ The leader is elevated to the status of God, or the son of God.
7. A movement that separates itself from society, either geographically or socially;

8. Adherents who become increasingly dependent on the movement for their view on reality;

9. Important decisions in the lives of the adherents are made by others;

10. Making sharp distinctions between us and them, divine and Satanic, good and evil, etc. that are not open for discussion;

11. Leaders who claim divine authority for their deeds and for their orders to their followers;

12. Leaders and movements who are unequivocally focused on achieving a certain goal.

13/ the cult will ascribe a terrible fear to some seemingly benign item.

14/ there is often some regular group activitly that tends to keep people "in line", controlled, brainwashed.

15 - Severe consequences result for those who wish to leave the group.

Here are the religions by population

A/ Christianity: 2.1 billion

B/ Islam: 1.5 billion

C/ Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion

D/ Hinduism: 900 million

E/ Chinese traditional religion: 394 million

F/ Buddhism: 376 million

Go for it guys

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41397 Gender:	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #27 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 1:14am looks like islam scores a 12/13 on the cult indicator. It misses out on the "alien" element in it. All in all though, a TOP effort by a mass murdering paedophile pervert
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Reply #28 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 12:49pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2008 at 10:44pm:

Here is our cult list.

1/ The leader is not to be questioned.

2/ The leader is the ONLY one who "knows."

3/ Oh, I like the ones that have an "Alien" element in the belief.
A bit modern, but still pretty cool.

4 / Inevitably, men run it. Much as I dislike saying that one !!!

5/ The leader is a often a sexual deviant.

6/ The leader is elevated to the status of God, or the son of God.
7. A movement that separates itself from society, either geographically or socially;

8. Adherents who become increasingly dependent on the movement for their view on reality;

9. Important decisions in the lives of the adherents are made by others;

10. Making sharp distinctions between us and them, divine and Satanic, good and evil, etc. that are not open for discussion;

11. Leaders who claim divine authority for their deeds and for their orders to their followers;

12. Leaders and movements who are unequivocally focused on achieving a certain goal.

13/ the cult will ascribe a terrible fear to some seemingly benign item.

14/ there is often some regular group activitly that tends to keep people "in line", controlled, brainwashed.

15 - Severe consequences result for those who wish to leave the group.

Here are the religions by population

A/ Christianity: 2.1 billion

B/ Islam: 1.5 billion

C/ Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion

D/ Hinduism: 900 million

E/ Chinese traditional religion: 394 million

F/ Buddhism: 376 million

Go for it guys

You forgot Pagans. Don't know about world numbers but in Australia alone 4353 identified themselves as Pagans in 1996 census.
I think it is fairly easy to become god or god's son or daughter so that's would put line number 6 back into saddle.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41397 Gender:	Re: Earmarks/guidelines to a cult Reply #29 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 12:57pm chrisitanity rack up 4/13. nb, catholics migh score differently
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