The Indonesian resort isle of Bali is up in arms over a new pornography bill which some say threatens Hindu traditions and bikini-clad tourism.

From its mountain temples festooned in ancient phallic symbols to its pristine beaches where Westerners bask in skimpy swimmers, Bali is an island famous for its easy-going lifestyle and sensual charms.

But a new bill designed to define pornography and set a moral tone across the vast, mainly Muslim archipelago of Indonesia is threatening to change all that, according to critics here.

Balinese legislators, rights activists, artists and tourism entrepreneurs are planning to join forces in a campaign of civil disobedience against what they say is ill-conceived and politically motivated meddling from Jakarta.

They say the bill overlaps with earlier legislation, defines pornography too broadly and will encourage Muslim extremists to enforce their values on Hindu Bali.

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http://www.theage.com.au/news/news/bali-bristles-over-bikini-ban-bill/2008/09/18...

More Muslim meddling.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 20^th, 2008 at 10:49am:


Bali is a hindu island,goose.

Maybe Australia should tell your mob to live like us or mind you dont hit your ass on the way out of here.

atheist,

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A Hindu populated island in the worlds largest Muslim nation. Your statement was about as helpful as me pointing out the city of Hume in Victoria is a 'Turkish Muslim municipality and therefore it's Turkish mayor has a right to prevent the Australian government imposing Australian laws on them'.

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Right.. but Indonesia has no right to tell the Hindu mob the same, right? Or were you under the delusion Bali was an independant nation? Who's the goose now?

soren,

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I don't think any Muslim in Australia has ever claimed bikinis should be banned. Yet you are supporting the idea that Hindus in Indonesia should be able to tell the government what they can and can't ban?

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Too bad Bali doesn't have any substantial natural resources like East Timor does... Or the Australian government might've had to invade it, and protect those poor Balinese from falling under the extremist laws of their government in Jakarta.

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Not to mention the fact they're avid pig eaters.

So tell me soren, do you believe Muslims in the city of Hume or in Lakemba in Sydney should have a right to repel laws that Canberra deems they must uphold?? Guess you wouldn't wanna be inconsistent, if your hypocrisy fouls up every discussion you enter, why shouldn't it in this one?

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 20^th, 2008 at 11:20am:


Wrong question, as always.
The question should be - is it for Canberra or Macquarie Street to legislate on what Muslims, as Muslims, wear to the beaches of Lakemba.
But of course that does not work not because Lakemba is miles from the beaches but because it is not a Muslim island incorpoirated into Australia. There is no Muslim claim to Lakemba, no mulism law or jurisdiction applies just because a lot of them live there (30 percent of the total poulation).

But it is telling that subliminally you are already treating Lakemba as if it was some sort of 'muslim area' where muslims rules are supposed to hold sway, like bali was  hindu and timor Christian  before the Muslims came to Indonesia.

the intolerance and oppressive nature of islam is apparent by the muslims attitude here.

imagine if one lived within a islamic country ?
try saying this in a muslim chat (aussie based) site - you'll get deleted and banned ASAP.

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 20^th, 2008 at 8:45pm:


Well, it's just part of the massive global cinspiracy against Islam. Everybody know that.

As far as I'm concerned Bali can do whatever it likes. I will never give Indonesia a cent of my money. Tourist dollars or otherwise. I was very angry when Australia gave them a billion dollars on top of the tens or hundreds of millions we give them every year. They don't like us. They use our money, equipment and training to murder Western Papuans.

They have a right to set standards for their society, and I don't have a problem unless it causes harm to the young or innocent. Same as I have argued for Australia.

That's right, abu. And if you can refrain from your sarcasm and insecurities for a moment, why don't you think about the reasons why this is the case?