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Hate to break it to you, but they do. I sometimes work in Jewish areas, and whenever I see orthodox women, they're always dressed almost exactly like Muslim women. I've also visited the homes of some orthodox Jews and their wives were always covered to a similar level as Muslim women. You probably don't notice as much for a few reasons, 1) Less Jews are practising than Muslims as a % of their relative communities. 2) They tend to live in much closer knit communities. I don't think I ever saw a Jew until I was about 25. 3) I think they're a smaller community than the Muslims.

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I never claimed it's an Islamic society at all, to acknowledge it had flaws.

mozza,

Just to help you out a little, I did a search on all posts by me mentioning the word 'Iran'. Here's a few to get you started...

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hmmm, nope nothing there either... Keep searching

Or perhaps you could just drop your pride, admit you were wrong, and apologise for falsely accusing me of believing such things?? Nah I doubt that'll happen, probably more chance of you finding a quote from me calling Iran an Islamic society 

freediver,

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Yep, so are their men covering them? Strange of you to recognise what I asked, yet not to answer it


mantra,

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I'm always generalising, take no notice of that.

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Although I might be a little 'one-eyed' in my support for Islam, I wouldn't go that far.

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Actually I consider myself to have been quite restrained in my time so far on this forum. Have derided very few people except the real loonies like mozza and sprint, and even then only very rarely.

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If we Muslims here are lacking humility, it is only our own fault, not that of the Qur'an, for it advises us to behave with humility. Just make sure you're not mistaking readiness to defend our position on every occasion with lack of humility as they are not one in the same. If I did that without humility, then that is my fault, but merely doing it doesn't indicate I lack humility.

It is more humorous than scary

I understand how younger people have a greater feeling of certainty about things they do not really comprehend, they work very much on feelings, and that is why we see a lot of abherrant behaviour.

What I do find scary is how some young muslims try to deny their views have any association to the acts of evil violence, which unfortunately are perpetrated by too many adherents of their sectarian beliefs.

I resist the Americanisation of our spelling Abu.

It is abherrant, unless you prefer the american version aberrant.

It is amusing that you have such disdain for all things US, but not their assault on our language it seems.

BTW, thanks for highlighting the point I was making with your erroneous assumptions.

It is all a bit of fun, I still misspell things from time to time, no biggy.

What I really would like to see is people take a step back from their certainty on many issues, I think a degree of healthy enquiry is beneficial to nearly every aspect of our lives.

You seem to think that I want you to abandon your faith, when I actually just would like you to question it more, and hopefully be one of the new generation who can effect positive change, which would benefit all, not just the west.