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The population explosion: a challenging piece of knowledge

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The most important *knowledge* you are going to gain on this forum will have to do with the fact that some people are worried about global warming while other people insist that the world is cooling. What you get is confusion and contradiction, and that is the way of the world. And hey: I'm telling you this as a person who graduated from university as an anthropologist whose only *real* knowledge contribution has to do with the population explosion. And that is a taboo topics of sorts. Unspeakable. Absolutely impossible for other social scientists to think too much about. It's a topic that has way too much to do with the human sex drive; not to forget that GOD CREATED US WITH THE ABILITY TO GIVE BIRTH TO ABOUT SEVENTEEN CHILDREN PER WOMAN. And you do not f*ck with God. You just don't! But fact is fact: the world population has doubled two times in less than one-hundred years, and it is going to rise by another 40 percent in the coming few decades. That amounts to about 2.5 - 3 billion people. And that amounts to the combined population of China and India, and then some. The world population will, according to the US Census Bureau, reach about 9.2 billion before it is hoped that it starts to stabilize. -

Now, because the population explosion is a natural condition caused by the creative powers of God, you can go ahead and forget about everything I just said. But please remember my first two keywords: CONFUSION and CONTRADICTION. - This forum is full of it, and you're going to *learn* a lot about it.

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Radical Depopulation Of The Earth - The Solution To Mankind's Problems?

It is not easy to be too certain about too many things which pertains to the future. Population growth is not one of those things. We know that the world's population will reach 9 billion souls by the year 2050, and when it comes to the year 2050, that's just about the only thing we can be certain about.

We should be able to plan for the inevitable! - Which is that the world's population will keep exploding for quite a while. And it is the opposite of a collapse! Yes! It is not as if the world's population is about to die off! It's the opposite! It is a majestic increase of population we are talking about here! And it leaves us with a lot of problems which can never be solved unless politicians and other administrators start taking the issue seriously. Which they don't! In fact: the whole topic is taboo! It's hardly ever mentioned by anyone. Not by politicians. Not by UN diplomats. Not by any member of the press.

And it is not some doomsayer's warning we are dealing with here! Not at all! This is reality. These are facts. It's the truth! The whole truth! And nothing but the truth!

But we choose to close our eyes to the fact of a population explosion which is going to transform the world in the next 40 years, ignoring the issue deliberately. - Crazy.

Under RATIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES, there should have been social research programs aimed at covering all of the probable, possible, and inevitable consequences that are connected to the population explosion issue, and as seen both from local, national, regional, and global perspectives. Food issues. Water issues. Sanitation issues. Town planning issues. Security issues. Crime control isses. All sorts of issues that are going to rise from a most basic fact of reality: the population explosion. As it happens on a local level at the same time as it is, quite naturally, a global matter. But the truths that pertain to population dynamics have somehow become taboo. And it is just plain crazy. We just don't want to deal with the most basic fact as concerns the future of all! - How can this be explained?
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Reply #2 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 8:31am
 
I think we need a readicla depopulation of the world.

It would immediatley ease the pressures on all our resources, help the globe, help all the animals facing extinction due to our "overabundance."

We are just a greedy child who continues on their willful destructive ways.
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Reply #3 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 10:08am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 21st, 2008 at 8:31am:
I think we need a readicla depopulation of the world.

It would immediatley ease the pressures on all our resources, help the globe, help all the animals facing extinction due to our "overabundance."

We are just a greedy child who continues on their willful destructive ways.


Yes, but what was that interesting word you mispelled in your opening sentence sorry?!?

"Radical", perhaps????
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Reply #4 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 10:43am
 
That was one of my better typos.
Very astute of you to decypher it  !!!

What do you think, lose about 30 - 50% of the population of the globe to give it a fighting chance ??

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 21st, 2008 at 10:43am:
That was one of my better typos.
Very astute of you to decypher it  !!!

What do you think, lose about 30 - 50% of the population of the globe to give it a fighting chance ??



Yeh, basically that sounds like what is needed but I will stop short of suggesting how it should be done.

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Reply #6 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 1:04pm
 
By drawing straws ?

Could have a huge world wide lottery ?

maybe by IQ ?


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Reply #7 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 1:11pm
 
We could start by getting rid of the baby bonus. The local birth rate is well below replacement so that's about all that is needed. Overseas, we need to lift the ban on family planning as part of foreign aid. The catholic church has prevented the US and Australia from giving condoms to aids sufferers in Africa and other poor places. Women's rights are also very important. When women are granted self determination and given access to birth control and objective medical advice the birth rate drops.
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Reply #8 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 1:34pm
 
f/d - enough of the namby pamby feelgood wishes.

We need a rapid reduction of billions right now.
"birth control" might have an effect on projections 20 years from now.
ie, they might not be 250% too many, only 150%


maybe can sort out the method of selection by money. ie, the richer ones are ok.
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Reply #9 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 1:51pm
 
You go first sprint.  Grin
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Reply #10 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 3:01pm
 
Yeh, sprint, you first....

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You're always the gentleman f/d .   Smiley
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Reply #12 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 3:07pm
 
Population is only one of several factors. At the moment it is the least important. Sprint is effectively saying we should kill off a few billion people so he can continue with his profligate waste. There is no need for drastic action on population. That's the one aspect that is already solving itself in the west and could solve itself in many other places if the west were a bit more sensible with foreign aid etc.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/population-sustainability.html#IPAT
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Reply #13 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 3:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2008 at 1:51pm:
You go first sprint.  Grin



I think (hope) that everybody is being tounge in cheek here as a result of the first post.

Hmmm - any takers? A 30% reduction in world population would take roughly 2,040,000,000 bullets. 

That's roughly 1.5 billion dollars worth of bullets plus travel expenses. How many bullets can you shoot from a gun before it wears out?

You'd also need a mass murderer with absolutely no sense of morality. I believe that one will be available after mid November in the US.

Assuming he shoots one person every 30 seconds, he should be able to dispatch one million every year. He has a good 18 years of life left, so he should be able to kill 18 million if nobody kills him before that time. 

Other alternatives include nuclear weapons. Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 3:27pm
 
muso - good of you to do the calculations.

A 30 - 50% reduction.
Seems a lone gunman is not going to do it.
Nukes would rapidly ruin the planet, just what we are wanting to save.

hhhmm, is not that easy. Sarin ? has to be effective in wide areas, if not entire countries.
we could flood some low lying regions, and burn others - oh, we are doing that already.

What about the death-ray satellite ???
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