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Scientific facts on global warming
Jul 18th, 2008 at 10:59am
 



"1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.

If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. So we know for sure that carbon emissions are not a significant cause of the global warming. If we had found the greenhouse signature then I would be an alarmist again.

When the signature was found to be missing in 2007 (after the latest IPCC report), alarmists objected that maybe the readings of the radiosonde thermometers might not be accurate and maybe the hot spot was there but had gone undetected. Yet hundreds of radiosondes have given the same answer, so statistically it is not possible that they missed the hot spot.

Recently the alarmists have suggested we ignore the radiosonde thermometers, but instead take the radiosonde wind measurements, apply a theory about wind shear, and run the results through their computers to estimate the temperatures. They then say that the results show that we cannot rule out the presence of a hot spot. If you believe that you'd believe anything.

2. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming. None. There is plenty of evidence that global warming has occurred, and theory suggests that carbon emissions should raise temperatures (though by how much is hotly disputed) but there are no observations by anyone that implicate carbon emissions as a significant cause of the recent global warming.

3. The satellites that measure the world's temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about 0.6C in the past year (to the temperature of 1980). Land-based temperature readings are corrupted by the "urban heat island" effect: urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate around the thermometer, due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars, houses. Satellite data is the only temperature data we can trust, but it only goes back to 1979. NASA reports only land-based data, and reports a modest warming trend and recent cooling. The other three global temperature records use a mix of satellite and land measurements, or satellite only, and they all show no warming since 2001 and a recent cooling.

4. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the past half a million years, the temperature rises occurred on average 800 years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon. Which says something important about which was cause and which was effect.

None of these points are controversial. The alarmist scientists agree with them, though they would dispute their relevance.

The last point was known and past dispute by 2003, yet Al Gore made his movie in 2005 and presented the ice cores as the sole reason for believing that carbon emissions cause global warming. In any other political context our cynical and experienced press corps would surely have called this dishonest and widely questioned the politician's assertion.

Until now the global warming debate has merely been an academic matter of little interest. Now that it matters, we should debate the causes of global warming.

So far that debate has just consisted of a simple sleight of hand: show evidence of global warming, and while the audience is stunned at the implications, simply assert that it is due to carbon emissions.

In the minds of the audience, the evidence that global warming has occurred becomes conflated with the alleged cause, and the audience hasn't noticed that the cause was merely asserted, not proved.

If there really was any evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming, don't you think we would have heard all about it ad nauseam by now?

The world has spent $50 billion on global warming since 1990, and we have not found any actual evidence that carbon emissions cause global warming. Evidence consists of observations made by someone at some time that supports the idea that carbon emissions cause global warming. Computer models and theoretical calculations are not evidence, they are just theory.

What is going to happen over the next decade as global temperatures continue not to rise? The Labor Government is about to deliberately wreck the economy in order to reduce carbon emissions. If the reasons later turn out to be bogus, the electorate is not going to re-elect a Labor government for a long time. When it comes to light that the carbon scare was known to be bogus in 2008, the ALP is going to be regarded as criminally negligent or ideologically stupid for not having seen through it. And if the Liberals support the general thrust of their actions, they will be seen likewise.

The onus should be on those who want to change things to provide evidence for why the changes are necessary. The Australian public is eventually going to have to be told the evidence anyway, so it might as well be told before wrecking the economy. "


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Re: Scientific facts on global warming
Reply #1 - Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:07am
 
The satellites that measure the world's temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001

You know someone is attempting to mislead when they include this little nugget. This is a slightly more subtle, but no less stupid than saying "there was a frost this morning, so global warming cannot be real".

The last point was known and past dispute by 2003, yet Al Gore made his movie in 2005

Strawman. If you are presenting 'scientific facts' why bring up a movie when you could instead discuss the actual science?
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Reply #2 - Jul 18th, 2008 at 11:26am
 
"Earlier this year, the world's top climate scientists released a definitive report on global warming. It is now "unequivocal," they concluded, that the planet is heating up. Humans are directly responsible for the planetary heat wave, and only by taking immediate action can the world avert a climate catastrophe. Megadroughts, raging wildfires, decimated forests, dengue fever, legions of Katrinas - unless humans act now to curb our climate-warming pollution, warned the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, "we are in deep trouble."
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/15148655/the_secret_campaign_of_president_bushs_administration_to_deny_global_warming

One must read more than just the liberal party gazzet if one wants to learn fact rather than opinion.

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Reply #3 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 3:34am
 
The number one greenhouse gas is water vapor.  Read as clouds in the sky.

If the planet is heating up, as it has over and over for the past few billion years, it will evaporate water, turning it into clouds.  Which, as we all know, will cool the planet by reflecting sunlight back into space.

What we need to be worrying about is the next ice age, which by the way is what the same global warming nimods were worried about in the 70's.  But since that didn't get anyone's attention, read that as money, they switched to this pie in the sky fear.

So, the globe is warming, the globe will cool, and it was happen again and again until our sun supernovas us into embers.

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Reply #4 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 11:18am
 
which by the way is what the same global warming nimods were worried about in the 70's

No it isn't. To try to equate the two issues in terms of public response or scientific interest flies in the face of reality.
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Reply #5 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 10:14pm
 
There is plenty of scientific interest out there on global warming but as Dennis Miller has said, if everything is because of Global Warming, then nothing is because of Global Warming.

There was a study of the measuring stations done in the US fo rtemp and other data collection points.  Well, over half of the units had been installed in places that actually increased the temp readings by just being placed where they were placed.

You don't place a temp reading instrument over a parking lot.  Do you?
What about on the roof a building beside the heat exhaust?
How about beside a building's southern exposure that only happens to be a black sided building?

There is interest, there are scientific facts but we seem to like to buy into them all and not question any of it.

I question it all.  I question why we humans think we can do anything as global as raise the temp of the planet?  That doesn't make any sense to me, seeing the planet has been around for what, 2 or 3 Billion years and we are using data that is as reliable as what?  A good guess?

Mars is also seeing Global Warming.  And I don't recall seeing a single tailpipe of a car anywhere on the photos from the rovers now looking around the place.

If Mars is increasing it's Global Warming, doesn't that imply the Earth is at least doing the same thing?  I mean afterall, aren't we a tad bit closer to the sun?

Cycles.... we are in a cycle.  One that I am sure has been repeated for eons and will continue to repeat itself until Al Gore and the Sky is Falling crowd are long forgotten by history as nothing more than a pack of nutjobs.

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Reply #6 - Jul 22nd, 2008 at 11:37am
 
There is plenty of scientific interest out there on global warming but as Dennis Miller has said, if everything is because of Global Warming, then nothing is because of Global Warming.

Huh?
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