freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2008 at 10:23pm:

Yes, well you see FD. That is the problem with the Wahabi's, they accept what is taught to them without thinking through it logically. I learnt my lesson a long time ago that if someone trys to teach you something that sounds a little crazy, don't blindly follow them.. Instead study it.. See the benefits and the logic behind it. If there is no logic behind it or it contradicts what you know the Prophet pbuh to have acted like, then don't trust it. Don't accept flimzy evidence.

People these days rarely know how to analyze or think properly for themselves, but instead they swallow what they are told like a pill that makes them lose control of their proper consciousness.

There's no enlightenment there, only intoxication.

That's why they say religion is the opiut of the masses, because the people who follow it accept what they are told to do and follow orders blindly. I dislike this behaviour in any attitude, I always ask why.. And what is the benefit for the person telling me it. That is how I came to Islam.

All praises are due to God, who mercifully brought me to this level of understanding.

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2008 at 10:23pm:

Yes, you're right. If someone seeks the truth, they will find it. If they contemplate and consider about these things then they will search for answers.

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2008 at 10:47pm:

No.. not exactly.. many Muslims blindly follow too. That I don't like..

But on a theological sense, of course I believe that Islam is the correct religion and that Christianity and Judaism are religions that while came down initially as the revelation, were corrupted by the people throughout the ages to suit their own needs..

But from my comment, I meant that if someone sincerely seeks the truth without arrogance, they'll eventually find it eventually and if they die before they do find it but die with the intention in their hearts of finding it, then surely God is oft forigiving and oft merciful and would forgive and reward them..

Hi everyone
Found this forum and decided to join. I see that anti-islamic rants are quiet prevalent here. No worries! I would rather read and hear all that anyone has to say and then simply present the matter with evidences (many a times from western historians and western scholars).
btw, seeing all the posts by Sprint especially those where he quotes from the Quran, it is very clear that he is simply cutting and pasting most of the time. And as someone pointed out earlier, he chops out parts of a verse that does not suit the point he is trying to make. Seems to me that Old habits (Read christian habits) die hard (in reference to the fabrications and deliberate manipulations of the bible)

Welcome to OzPolitic Abu Khadijah. I look forward to reading your evidences.

What are the fabircations and deliberate misrepresentations? Sprints board may be a more suitable place to elaborate:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=spirituality

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 11:22pm:

I'd like to point out that the word used in the Qur'an (61:9) is  "mushrikeen", which does not mean a person with no religion, it specifically means a person who associates partners with Allah, or in other words, idolaters (mushrikeen is plural of mushrik, who is a person who commits shirk).

sam - pointless me posting here, i get deleted all the time anyway