61:9  He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it conqueror of all religion however much idolaters may be averse.

5:45 And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 18^th, 2008 at 11:17pm:

The Chapter in particular is talking about the Quraish, they were told not to be like the Jews who cursed Moses and Jesus pbut and rejected their message and strayed but to accept the straight path, in the verse you pointed out that God sent Muhammad pbuh to show them Islam, and that Islam would be the undoing of idolatry in the lands.. no matter how much the pagans hate that idea

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 18^th, 2008 at 11:22pm:

It's the right of someone who has been wronged to have vengeance for the crime committed.. But then it states that while it is the right to have an eye for an eye, it is far better to forgive.. Because surely God loves those who forgive and will be more forgiving to them

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 11:22pm:

By the Grace of God I have been very well thank you, and how have you been Sprint?
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 11:22pm:
Again, you have no idea of the region, nor the history of Islam, nor the pre-Islamic era. It was Amr ibn-Luhayy who brought the image of Hubal to the Quraish as a way to glorify God.

According to Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar, Muhammad The Holy Prophet (1969),
"About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one ˤAmr ibn Lahya ibn Harath ibn ˤAmru l-Qays ibn Thalaba ibn Azd ibn Khalan ibn Babalyun ibn Saba, a descendant of Qahtan and King of the Hijaz, more usually called Amr ibn Luhayy, had put an idol called Hubal on the roof of the Kaˤabat. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraysh before Islam."

I'll explain it's origins further in the next part.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 11:22pm:

Of course you're unsure, you have no idea about the issue because you're not versed in the study of the Qur'an, tafseer, history, hadith or the Seerah. You keep making all of these assumptions of Islam but in reality you haven't studied enough to know anything, let alone have an educated opinion on the interpretation of the Qur'an. You see, it IS referring to the Pagan Quraish of Mecca, the Quraish at one stage used to worship the God of Abraham, but then they created idols as 'personalities of God' so that they could have a constant reminder, they were the embodiment of God, this went further until it became simple worshipping of the idols and the idols being God and no longer a representation of Him.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 11:22pm:

Actually Muhammad pbuh came 570 years after Jesus pbuh.

And even Jesus pbuh said that he was here to confirm the old laws and that they would not change.

Matthew 5:17-18
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Jesus pbuh, after acknowledging that the Old Laws still are applicable later on goes to say:

Matthew 5:38-42
"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[g] But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

You see Jesus pbuh wanted people to forgive instead of seeking vengeance, because while it was acceptable to have an eye for an eye, it was far better to forgive those who wronged us.

The Qur'an is very similar actually, didn't you read it?

"But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers."

Surely if we would like the forgiveness of God, we'd forgive those who wrong us.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2008 at 1:50am:

Sleep well Sprint. 

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2008 at 7:59pm:


I was raised Christian going to church, sunday school and bible studies classes on tuesday nights sprint, I have read the NT many times.

Yep, Muslims can go either way and we believe that is how Jesus pbuh  had intended to teach too.

We don't believe the bible is the truth, we believe the Qur'an is. We believe in the Law of Equality but we also believe that forgiveness is far better.

BTW, should the West have turned it's cheek on 9/11?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2008 at 12:13am:


So if someone assaults one family member, Sprint, should you offer him another as well?

What about NT contradictions, Sprint? How is it that you don't know much about those? How did you miss them? ... being a studious observer of Christian doctrine.