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World's Most Peaceful Nations
May 21^st, 2008 at 4:51pm

From The Canberra Times
http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/news/world/world/general/list-world-most-peaceful-countries/773907.aspx

LIST: World' most peaceful countries

The 20 most peaceful countries, plus other nations of interest.
1. Iceland
2. Denmark
3. Norway
4. New Zealand
5. Japan
6. Ireland
7. Portugal
8. Fiji
9. Luxembourg
10. Austria
11. Canada
12. Switzerland
13. Sweden
14. Germany
15. Belgium
16. Slovenia
17. Czech Republic
18. Hungary
19. Chile
20. Slovakia

23. Hong Kong
27. Australia
49. United Kingdom
67. China
68. Indonesia
95. Papua New Guinea
97. United States
107. India
124. Zimbabwe
131. Russia
132. Lebanon
136. Israel
137. Afghanistan
140. Iraq

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I don't know what survey or measure they've used to come up with this result - perhaps reported crime per capita.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51848 At my desk.	Re: World's Most Peaceful Nations Reply #1 - May 21^st, 2008 at 4:54pm I've always wondered why the US is so violent. I think they rate pretty highly even for crimes that aren't gun related.
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Reply #2 - May 21^st, 2008 at 4:58pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2008 at 4:54pm:

I've always wondered why the US is so violent. I think they rate pretty highly even for crimes that aren't gun related.

I think there are 10,000 reported gun deaths per annum in the US (if you believe Michael Moore). Of course, then there are stabbing, strangling, poisoning, bludgeoning etc.

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Reply #3 - May 21^st, 2008 at 5:31pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2008 at 4:54pm:

I've always wondered why the US is so violent. I think they rate pretty highly even for crimes that aren't gun related.

I doubt that the USA is any more violent than any other country, they just have more people. If you number crunch you may find that - per capita - there are perhaps more murders/violence in Melbourne, Sydney or Brisbane than in the US. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51848 At my desk.	Re: World's Most Peaceful Nations Reply #4 - May 21^st, 2008 at 5:36pm Uh, no, I'm pretty sure that list is based on per capita violence rates. I know the US is an unusually violent place (for a industrialised country) on a per capita basis.
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Reply #5 - May 21^st, 2008 at 5:37pm

Acid Monkey wrote on May 21^st, 2008 at 4:51pm:

From The Canberra Times
http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/news/world/world/general/list-world-most-peaceful-countries/773907.aspx

LIST: World' most peaceful countries

The 20 most peaceful countries, plus other nations of interest.
1. Iceland
2. Denmark
3. Norway
4. New Zealand
5. Japan
6. Ireland
7. Portugal
8. Fiji
9. Luxembourg
10. Austria
11. Canada
12. Switzerland
13. Sweden
14. Germany
15. Belgium
16. Slovenia
17. Czech Republic
18. Hungary
19. Chile
20. Slovakia

23. Hong Kong
27. Australia
49. United Kingdom
67. China
68. Indonesia
95. Papua New Guinea
97. United States
107. India
124. Zimbabwe
131. Russia
132. Lebanon
136. Israel
137. Afghanistan
140. Iraq

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I don't know what survey or measure they've used to come up with this result - perhaps reported crime per capita.

Iceland, Denmark and Norway (and to some degree, New Zealand) nearly always come 1, 2, and 3 on most of these things. Best place to visit, least crime, better education, cheaper food .... whatever.

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Reply #6 - May 21^st, 2008 at 5:47pm

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2008 at 5:36pm:

Uh, no, I'm pretty sure that list is based on per capita violence rates. I know the US is an unusually violent place (for a industrialised country) on a per capita basis.

You KNOW that?

As an example, last time I checked it out, there were 35 million Americans who were HOMELESS ... i.e. living in cardboard boxes in mid-Winter (i.e. minus 40 Fahrenheit!)

They have a huge amount of people in gaol and on "death row" as well.

America is the only country that has a disproportionate amount of millionaires -v- the truly poor and it does NOT hand out welfare like we do in Oz. A horrible place to live unless you have a well paid job. I certainly hope that Australia never, ever follows the United States!

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41178 Gender:	Re: World's Most Peaceful Nations Reply #7 - May 21^st, 2008 at 10:50pm neferti - that's a surprising list. new zealand is a very violent place, I used to live there.
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Reply #8 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 9:20am

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 21^st, 2008 at 10:50pm:

neferti - that's a surprising list.
new zealand is a very violent place, I used to live there.

Yea, but is that pub brawls or murder that we're talking about sprint? I would imagine that it could be a bit scary in some places late on a saturday night, but are there many murders and sexual assults?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41178 Gender:	Re: World's Most Peaceful Nations Reply #9 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 9:27am yes athiest, lots of both. many really nasty ones too, not just crimes of passion. Not that that would make it any less pleasant.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51848 At my desk.	Re: World's Most Peaceful Nations Reply #10 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 10:07am You would probably see far fewer pub brawls if people were getting shot on a regular basis.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41178 Gender:	Re: World's Most Peaceful Nations Reply #11 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 10:28am well, every murder means there is one less person to participate in a brawl
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Reply #12 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 5:03pm

These figures must be per capita, a large population will give you smaller percentages but if the actual numbers were there, you could get a better idea. Some of those countries in the top 10 also have high suicide rates. Japan and Germany have a low percentage for obvious reasons. A UN study in 2005 stated that New Zealand was number one in the world for property theft and sexual assault, I guess a lot has changed in three years.

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Reply #13 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 5:20pm

lapaz62 wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 5:03pm:

These figures must be per capita, a large population will give you smaller percentages but if the actual numbers were there, you could get a better idea. Some of those countries in the top 10 also have high suicide rates. Japan and Germany have a low percentage for obvious reasons. A UN study in 2005 stated that New Zealand was number one in the world for property theft and sexual assault, I guess a lot has changed in three years.

Good point.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51848 At my desk.	Re: World's Most Peaceful Nations Reply #14 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 5:22pm A UN study in 2005 stated that New Zealand was number one in the world for property theft and sexual assault I doubt that involved a comparison with every, or even mst countries.
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