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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53275 At my desk.	Re: Heavy Moderation on DT's Liberty & PA? Reply #15 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 2:18pm I could host or set something up for you, like I did with PA. Of course, there would be the risk that too many sites go down at once whenever the server crashes.
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Re: Heavy Moderation on DT's Liberty & PA?
Reply #16 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 2:24pm

freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 2:18pm:

I could host or set something up for you, like I did with PA. Of course, there would be the risk that too many sites go down at once whenever the server crashes.

No, it's OK but thanks anyway. It's really not the cash as a host can be found for less than $100 a year and I spend that amount for lunch every day.

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I just haven't got around to it. I will do it and then maybe add quite a bit to it as I go. A website gives me the freedom to start selling merchandise like liberty T Shirts or PA cobwebs.

I actually have couple of ideas to expand the empire but I have been a bit lazy lately.

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Reply #17 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 2:45pm

deepthought wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 2:24pm:

freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 2:18pm:

I could host or set something up for you, like I did with PA. Of course, there would be the risk that too many sites go down at once whenever the server crashes.

No, it's OK but thanks anyway. It's really not the cash as a host can be found for less than $100 a year and I spend that amount for lunch every day.

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I just haven't got around to it. I will do it and then maybe add quite a bit to it as I go. A website gives me the freedom to start selling merchandise like liberty T Shirts or PA cobwebs.

I actually have couple of ideas to expand the empire but I have been a bit lazy lately.

Wow, do you think that you will be able to afford to have all those t-shirts printed up DT? I mean there must be 13 members by now.

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Reply #18 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 3:42pm

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Like I said though if it's too hard and causes you to post here to complain about my site don't post there. I don't mind. It's preferable you stay away to avoid flooding freediver's sites with issues he has no interest in and suggesting my forums are moderated when there has been no moderation at all to date.

Seeing as you've occasionally mentioned Liberty on this forum and you don't want to be PM'd and there's difficulty getting onto Liberty - I didn't think this would upset FD too much. When I did mention this problem on Liberty, you didn't give an explanation. Oceans said the same and FD has now as well.

If you want to expand your forum, perhaps it would be a good idea not to tell potential posters that it's preferable for them to stay away. An explanation as to why these problems occurred could have been given fairly quickly and nipped in the bud almost immediately - instead of waiting until Ozpolitics was "flooded" with this boring issue.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53275 At my desk.	Re: Heavy Moderation on DT's Liberty & PA? Reply #19 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 3:46pm Perhaps I should move this to chat, as it would be good to keep this board for OzPolitic related issues.
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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Heavy Moderation on DT's Liberty & PA? Reply #20 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 3:49pm The topic is probably finished now anyway FD. I wasn't sure where to put it originally - but Chat sounds OK.
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Reply #21 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 5:27pm

mantra wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 3:42pm:

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Like I said though if it's too hard and causes you to post here to complain about my site don't post there. I don't mind. It's preferable you stay away to avoid flooding freediver's sites with issues he has no interest in and suggesting my forums are moderated when there has been no moderation at all to date.

Seeing as you've occasionally mentioned Liberty on this forum and you don't want to be PM'd and there's difficulty getting onto Liberty - I didn't think this would upset FD too much. When I did mention this problem on Liberty, you didn't give an explanation. Oceans said the same and FD has now as well.

If you want to expand your forum, perhaps it would be a good idea not to tell potential posters that it's preferable for them to stay away. An explanation as to why these problems occurred could have been given fairly quickly and nipped in the bud almost immediately - instead of waiting until Ozpolitics was "flooded" with this boring issue.

I have said it repeatedly here and there - it's a DNS issue. And oceans problems are unrelated. She kept forgetting her log in details and I had to keep re-setting her password for her.

I say to everyone that if it's not for you don't post. The last thing I need is people choosing to be there, then complaining about the forum. If it is not for you, I would rather you were happy elsewhere. I live for fun. If the forum never has more than one member, my life will be unchanged. I would like people to post there, but my preference is they post about issues, not the forum's slowness.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53275 At my desk.	Re: Heavy Moderation on DT's Liberty & PA? Reply #22 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 5:30pm It's probably lost in the crash, but I was being hassled here a while back for not joining.
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Reply #23 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:02pm

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I say to everyone that if it's not for you don't post. The last thing I need is people choosing to be there, then complaining about the forum. If it is not for you, I would rather you were happy elsewhere. I live for fun. If the forum never has more than one member, my life will be unchanged. I would like people to post there, but my preference is they post about issues, not the forum's slowness.

So this is the forum owner's response - put up and shut up or leave. Discuss anything as long as it isn't technical issues with the site. What will be next?

If the site was only slow - there would be no complaint. Today, surprisingly logging in and out went without any difficulty, but obviously there has been a misunderstanding. I thought the Liberty moderation was unrestricted where anything could be discussed unreservedly without limitations.

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Reply #24 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:05pm

freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 5:30pm:

It's probably lost in the crash, but I was being hassled here a while back for not joining.

The bits that may have been lost related to you asking me to repeat several thousand times (a small exaggeration) that your privacy was paramount, then didn't join anyway.

That I help with contributions to your board yet you don't join a fellow forum owners board (until your own crashed and you used it to advise people of the reason).

And I believe the point I also made was you insisted I remove any reference to my board in my signature while I willingly advertise your board in both forums of my board.

That sound about right mate?

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Reply #25 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:09pm

mantra wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:02pm:

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I say to everyone that if it's not for you don't post. The last thing I need is people choosing to be there, then complaining about the forum. If it is not for you, I would rather you were happy elsewhere. I live for fun. If the forum never has more than one member, my life will be unchanged. I would like people to post there, but my preference is they post about issues, not the forum's slowness.

So this is the forum owner's response - put up and shut up or leave. Discuss anything as long as it isn't technical issues with the site. What will be next?

If the site was only slow - there would be no complaint. Today, surprisingly logging in and out went without any difficulty, but obviously there has been a misunderstanding. I thought the Liberty moderation was unrestricted where anything could be discussed unreservedly without limitations.

And it can, but this is not liberty - this is Ozpolitic. If a person joins liberty knowing the site has a DNS issue then complains about the DNS issue on another board (attributing it to imaginary moderation of their comments) then I wish them happiness elsewhere. I don't find it agreeable for people to place themselves in a situation which makes them unhappy then to complain about their misery some other place. I find that to be a most peculiar characteristic, somewhat masochistic actually.

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Reply #26 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:17pm

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I don't find it agreeable for people to place themselves in a situation which makes them unhappy then to complain about their misery some other place. I find that to be a most peculiar characteristic, somewhat masochistic actually.

What a strange statement - seeing as you have discussed Ozpolitics elsewhere and in a derogatory manner.

Liberty's motto should be "Do as I say - not as I do".

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Reply #27 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:22pm

mantra wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:17pm:

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I don't find it agreeable for people to place themselves in a situation which makes them unhappy then to complain about their misery some other place. I find that to be a most peculiar characteristic, somewhat masochistic actually.

What a strange statement - seeing as you have discussed Ozpolitics elsewhere and in a derogatory manner.

Liberty's motto should be "Do as I say - not as I do".

Have I? Please copy and paste the derogatory statements here would you.

How have I differed from my stated belief by the way? Have you been moderated at liberty?

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Reply #28 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:27pm

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Please copy and paste the derogatory statements here would you.

No - I don't keep copies of negative posts and I don't know whether I've been moderated at Liberty - that's why I asked you. Some of my posts haven't got through.

What I do know is that a request has been made not to write posts with certain content.

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Reply #29 - May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:33pm

mantra wrote on May 22^nd, 2008 at 6:27pm:

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Please copy and paste the derogatory statements here would you.

No - I don't keep copies of negative posts and I don't know whether I've been moderated at Liberty - that's why I asked you. Some of my posts haven't got through.

What I do know is that a request has been made not to write posts with certain content.

Really? Please copy and paste that then while you are making ridiculous claims you can't support.

And please explain how your posts could be moderated if they have never appeared.

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