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Mar 12th, 2008 at 9:11pm
 
We hear so many cases about people murdering their partners or their children or both, yet these murderers loved their victims.   Males seem to be the majority of offenders.  What triggers these mood swings? 

I've thought about wounding some people in my life - very briefly - during heated arguments, but refrained - in case I was the one who came off worse.   Fortunately for me it's always worked the other way around as well.

Has anyone ever been so aggravating that you've wanted to inflict some pain on them?  Could be anyone, not necessarily a partner, but someone you're arguing with in a pub or a party, on a train or on the road?  Even your children!
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Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2008 at 9:18pm
 
mantra wrote on Mar 12th, 2008 at 9:11pm:
We hear so many cases about people murdering their partners or their children or both, yet these murderers loved their victims.   Males seem to be the majority of offenders.  What triggers these mood swings?  

I've thought about wounding some people in my life - very briefly - during heated arguments, but refrained - in case I was the one who came off worse.   Fortunately for me it's always worked the other way around as well.

Has anyone ever been so aggravating that you've wanted to inflict some pain on them?  Could be anyone, not necessarily a partner, but someone you're arguing with in a pub or a party, on a train or on the road?  Even your children!


I never let it get as far as 'aggravated'.   I have an itchy trigger finger and I start shooting before I get too riled up.
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Reply #2 - Mar 12th, 2008 at 9:25pm
 
I've only ever wished someone to inflict pain upon themselves.

It makes me all gooey inside to think that the person has finally woken up to how annoying they really are and they are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to better the human race.

I'm far to happy-go-lucky to inflict pain on another human being- it's better that they are made to realise the pain and suffering they are inflicting 24/7 on the people around them.

It's a tough job but someone has to do it.

Kid's? Well I think it's better to smother them with love, hugs and affection.. and maybe a pillow at times.
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Reply #3 - Mar 12th, 2008 at 9:47pm
 
Hi mantra,
I think most of those cases are caused by the offender feeling powerless.


Sure I've clipped a guy around the chin, think you mean a bit more than that though.
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Reply #4 - Mar 12th, 2008 at 9:49pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 12th, 2008 at 9:47pm:
Hi mantra,
I think most of those cases are caused by the offender feeling powerless.


Sure I've clipped a guy around the chin, think you mean a bit more than that though.


Was that you that hit me sprint?  Did I get you with any of my 25 shots?
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Reply #5 - Mar 13th, 2008 at 4:40pm
 
I dont really hate pple as such..I can  almost always rationalise anger toward almost anyone.

I tend to hate pple like John Howard, because he hurt my poor little lefttard heart with his lack of social conscience.[but I dont hate him now]

I love family animals and Australia. [[and weather]]
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Reply #6 - Mar 13th, 2008 at 4:47pm
 
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I dont really hate pple as such..I can  almost always rationalise anger toward almost anyone.

I tend to hate pple like John Howard, because he hurt my poor little lefttard heart with his lack of social conscience.[but I dont hate him now]

I love family animals and Australia. [[and weather]]


Johnny is like God - he loves you despite your failings.
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Reply #7 - Mar 13th, 2008 at 5:03pm
 
deepthought wrote on Mar 13th, 2008 at 4:47pm:
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I dont really hate pple as such..I can  almost always rationalise anger toward almost anyone.

I tend to hate pple like John Howard, because he hurt my poor little lefttard heart with his lack of social conscience.[but I dont hate him now]

I love family animals and Australia. [[and weather]]


Johnny is like God - he loves you despite your failings.


You really think so DT?

And what about Johnnys failings?


Do I hear you say "he has none"?

I think God is supposed to be perfect.
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Reply #8 - Mar 13th, 2008 at 6:18pm
 
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deepthought wrote on Mar 13th, 2008 at 4:47pm:
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I dont really hate pple as such..I can  almost always rationalise anger toward almost anyone.

I tend to hate pple like John Howard, because he hurt my poor little lefttard heart with his lack of social conscience.[but I dont hate him now]

I love family animals and Australia. [[and weather]]


Johnny is like God - he loves you despite your failings.


You really think so DT?

And what about Johnnys failings?


Do I hear you say "he has none"?

I think God is supposed to be perfect.
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Johnny?  Failings? I think you are thinking of Cardboard.
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Reply #9 - Mar 14th, 2008 at 4:27am
 
Hate is a useless emotion.  It only brings us down - far better to turn negative emotions into positive emotions, if that's possible.  Although loving our enemy is easier said than done.

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Reply #10 - Mar 14th, 2008 at 7:12am
 
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I dont really hate pple as such..I can  almost always rationalise anger toward almost anyone.

I tend to hate pple like John Howard, because he hurt my poor little lefttard heart with his lack of social conscience.[but I dont hate him now]

I love family animals and Australia. [[and weather]]


Good points Oceans - I hold the same views.  Just to add - now that Howard is no longer around - it's easy to let go of those feelings of "intense dislike".
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Reply #11 - Mar 14th, 2008 at 7:19am
 
mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2008 at 7:12am:
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I dont really hate pple as such..I can  almost always rationalise anger toward almost anyone.

I tend to hate pple like John Howard, because he hurt my poor little lefttard heart with his lack of social conscience.[but I dont hate him now]

I love family animals and Australia. [[and weather]]


Good points Oceans - I hold the same views.  Just to add - now that Howard is no longer around - it's easy to let go of those feelings of "intense dislike".


How about the Exclusive Brethren?
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Reply #12 - Mar 14th, 2008 at 7:59am
 
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How about the Exclusive Brethren


Thanks for reminding me DT - I'd forgotten about them.  I dislike cults intensely - here's another one which has just raised it's ugly head as well -

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THE principal of a private Jewish girls' school in Melbourne has fled Australia facing accusations that she sexually molested some of the students.

Outraged parents claim that the Adass Israel Girls' School in Elsternwick paid for Malka Leifer, a mother of eight, to return to Israel before reporting the complaints to the police.

She left Melbourne on Wednesday last week, 24 hours after being investigated and sacked by the school's board.

The Adass community is a small, ultra-orthodox and reclusive group of about 150 families based in Elsternwick and Ripponlea. They have little contact with the wider Jewish community and non-Jewish society.

One parent said problems emerged a year ago when a daughter, 16, stopped eating and became unsociable. Her parents took her to a psychologist, and it came out that she had been molested but was too embarrassed to tell her parents.

"It's very sensitive, because a girl who has been molested would find it hard to get married, so it's very secret, hush-hush — no one wants to admit their child is a victim," the parent said.

Girls and boys in the community are segregated from kindergarten, are not allowed television or to mix with the wider community and do not attend university until after they are married.

They leave the Adass schools at 16 and go to seminaries, usually overseas, until they marry, usually much younger than the Australian norm.

Parents were also concerned that the psychological treatment of the girls had been compromised because the school had refused to release information to outside psychologists. Students and parents were instead referred to school-nominated psychologists.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/principal-flees-after-molesting-girls/2008/03/13/1205126151573.html?page=2
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Reply #13 - Mar 14th, 2008 at 7:19pm
 
Good one - deepthought.  I see you've found a way to deter people from the Relationships Forum.  Obviously I hurt your sensibilities.  If you're going to deliberately change my posts like that - I won't post anywhere your name appears.

That will be difficult though - seeing as 90% of the posts on Ozpolitics are yours.
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Reply #14 - Mar 14th, 2008 at 10:00pm
 
mantra wrote on Mar 14th, 2008 at 7:19pm:
Good one - deepthought.  I see you've found a way to deter people from the Relationships Forum.  Obviously I hurt your sensibilities.  If you're going to deliberately change my posts like that - I won't post anywhere your name appears.

That will be difficult though - seeing as 90% of the posts on Ozpolitics are yours.


I don't have any sensibilities.  I'm insensible.  And I don't mind where you choose to post mantra - it's a free country and you're a free citizen.

However before you complain about your post being added to I suggest you read the thread you're complaining about, for the first time.  Comprehension is a wonderful thing and I have had to remind you on more than one occasion how to interpret quite simple statements.  The following seems pretty straightforward to me.

deepthought wrote on Mar 13th, 2008 at 8:22pm:
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(as moderator of this forum I require everyone to use the word 'fart' at least once in your reply.  If you forget I will add it for you because I am helpful like that)


What is it about that that makes it hard to understand?

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