Australian Politics Forum - political parties using our flag

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47366 At my desk.	political parties using our flag Feb 20^th, 2008 at 3:20pm Is it wrong for political parties to incorporate the Australian flag, or parts of it, into their logo?
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DILLIGAF Gold Member Offline Posts: 1259 The greens are red Gender:	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #1 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 3:34pm No, infact it should be mandatory to have the national flag in the political party symbol.
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RecFisher Senior Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 347	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #2 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 4:59pm No, I don't believe so either. If you think they shouldn't, then nobody should be allowed to.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47366 At my desk.	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #3 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 5:07pm OK, lets move away from whether they should be allowed to, to whether they should.
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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #4 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 5:24pm Yep.
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oceanz Gold Member Offline Auzgurl.. Posts: 3531 Gender:	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #5 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 7:00pm Why would there be a problem with it? I think it should be ok..symbolises national pride.
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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #6 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 7:32pm Quote: Why would there be a problem with it? I think it should be ok..symbolises national pride. Yep.
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RecFisher Senior Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 347	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #7 - Feb 21^st, 2008 at 3:50pm freediver wrote on Feb 20^th, 2008 at 5:07pm: OK, lets move away from whether they should be allowed to, to whether they should. Why shouldn't they?
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Reply #8 - Feb 21^st, 2008 at 3:58pm

It's suggestive of a claim to be more 'Australian' than another political party. The flag represents all Australians, not just members of one party. A corporate logo must be actively protected against misuse. A flag is pretty much the same thing.

There are also some traditional 'rules' about what is acceptable to do with a flag. If the banner for your party looks like the flag or has the flag on it then it breaks those rules.

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RecFisher Senior Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 347	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #9 - Feb 21^st, 2008 at 4:01pm The government of the day represents all Australians. Are these "traditional rules' actually in legislation? Sue them if you feel that strongly about it.
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Reply #10 - Feb 21^st, 2008 at 4:04pm

freediver wrote on Feb 21^st, 2008 at 3:58pm:

It's suggestive of a claim to be more 'Australian' than another political party. The flag represents all Australians, not just members of one party. A corporate logo must be actively protected against misuse. A flag is pretty much the same thing.

There are also some traditional 'rules' about what is acceptable to do with a flag. If the banner for your party looks like the flag or has the flag on it then it breaks those rules.

Really? HOw about the dudes in boxers made of flags? Rule breaking?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47366 At my desk.	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #11 - Feb 21^st, 2008 at 7:14pm It is not a legal thing. It's about respect for the flag. If a boxer is representing Australia, it doesn't bother me if he wears the flag. If the government uses the flag that is fine too. But the government and a political party are two different institutions.
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RecFisher Senior Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 347	Re: political parties using our flag Reply #12 - Feb 22^nd, 2008 at 12:46pm So a political party is showing disrespect for the flag by using it? Is that why it's not ok? What about the Australians who do not support boxing as a sport? Should they be able to say "don't use my flag" to the boxer?
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Reply #13 - Feb 22^nd, 2008 at 12:57pm

So a political party is showing disrespect for the flag by using it? Is that why it's not ok?

Pretty much. Plus there is the implicit claim of being 'more Australian' than other parties. I guess it's more that it is a false claim to represent the country.

What about the Australians who do not support boxing as a sport? Should they be able to say "don't use my flag" to the boxer?

No. The boxer is representing the country, not the individual. Indivudals don't get to choose which wars are fought under our flag any more than what sports Australians represent our country in overseas.

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Reply #14 - Feb 26^th, 2008 at 4:47pm

deepthought wrote on Feb 21^st, 2008 at 4:04pm:

Really? HOw about the dudes in boxers made of flags? Rule breaking?

Hi! I'm back!

I once read somewhere that the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin as a persoanl joke loves to wearing boxer shorts with the US flag print. He alledgedly boasted that it gives him a kick to know that either the USA is kissing his arse, his fat arse is sitting on the US or that he's farting in the face of the Americans.

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