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willy New Member Offline willy say's HI Posts: 23 Gender:	KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY Feb 19^th, 2008 at 9:23am WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK..................I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME
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Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY
Reply #1 - Feb 19^th, 2008 at 12:32pm

On one hand, i think the 'stolen generations' should thank us for taking them out of poverty, pedeophilia/incest, drugs and alcohol and giving them an education and careers.

On the other hand, an apology is a worthwile thing for the breaking up of families. but that is all.

Another point, you must remember that the 'stolen generations' were all half castes and were shunned by the full blooded Abo's.

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Reply #2 - Feb 19^th, 2008 at 2:30pm

They have their apology now, that will be forgotten about and they will whinge about something else.
Why have they said nothing about the tribal elders rooting their children, why do they not kick up about the fact that most of their race are drug addicts, theives, criminals thugs, unemployable and have no future. It's just a shame the few who actually care about themselves, work hard don't drink, don't take drugs and don't condone anti-social behavior get no recognition whatsoever.

I apologise allright

We apologise for giving you doctors and free medical care, which allows

you to survive and multiply so that you can demand apologies.

We apologise for helping you to read and teaching you the English

language and thus we opened up to you the entire European civilisation,

thought and enterprise.

We feel that we must apologise for building hundreds of homes for you,

which you have vandalised and destroyed.

We apologise for giving you law and order which has helped prevent you

from slaughtering one another.

We apologise for developing large farms and properties, which today feed

you people, where before, you had the benefits of living off the land

and starving during droughts.

We apologise for providing you with warm clothing made of fabric to

replace that animal skins you used before.

We apologise for building roads and railway tracks between cities and

building cars so that you no longer have to walk over harsh terrain.

We apologise for paying off your vehicle when you fail to pay the

installments .

We apologise for giving you free travel anywhere, whenever.

We apologise for giving each and every member of your family $100.00 and

free travel to attend an aboriginal funeral.

We apologise for not charging you rent on any lands when white people

have to pay.

We apologise for giving you interest free loans.

We apologise for developing oil wells and minerals, including gold and

diamonds which you never used and had no idea of their value, which you now

reap million up on millions in royalties from

We apologise for developing Ayers rock and Kakadu, and handing them over

to you so that you get all the money.

We apologise for allowing taxpayers money paid towards daughters'

wedding

($8,000.00 each daughter)

We apologise for giving you $1.7 billion per year for your 250,000

people, which is $48,000.00 per aboriginal man, woman and child.

We apologise for working hard to pay taxes that finance your welfare,

medical care, education, etc to the tune of $1.2 billion each year.

We apologise for you having to approach the aboriginal affairs

department to verify the above figures. For the trouble you will have

identifying the "uncle toms" in your own community who are getting

richer and leaving some of you living in squalor and poverty.

We do apologise. We really do.

We humbly beg your forgiveness for all the above sins.

We are only too happy to take back all the above and return you to the

paradise of the "outback", whenever you are ready.

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Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY
Reply #3 - Feb 19^th, 2008 at 2:37pm

merou wrote on Feb 19^th, 2008 at 2:30pm:

They have their apology now, that will be forgotten about and they will whinge about something else.
Why have they said nothing about the tribal elders rooting their children, why do they not kick up about the fact that most of their race are drug addicts, theives, criminals thugs, unemployable and have no future. It's just a shame the few who actually care about themselves, work hard don't drink, don't take drugs and don't condone anti-social behavior get no recognition whatsoever.

I'm apologise allright

We apologise for giving you doctors and free medical care, which allows

you to survive and multiply so that you can demand apologies.

We apologise for helping you to read and teaching you the English

language and thus we opened up to you the entire European civilisation,

thought and enterprise.

We feel that we must apologise for building hundreds of homes for you,

which you have vandalised and destroyed.

We apologise for giving you law and order which has helped prevent you

from slaughtering one another.

We apologise for developing large farms and properties, which today feed

you people, where before, you had the benefits of living off the land

and starving during droughts.

We apologise for providing you with warm clothing made of fabric to

replace that animal skins you used before.

We apologise for building roads and railway tracks between cities and

building cars so that you no longer have to walk over harsh terrain.

We apologise for paying off your vehicle when you fail to pay the

installments .

We apologise for giving you free travel anywhere, whenever.

We apologise for giving each and every member of your family $100.00 and

free travel to attend an aboriginal funeral.

We apologise for not charging you rent on any lands when white people

have to pay.

We apologise for giving you interest free loans.

We apologise for developing oil wells and minerals, including gold and

diamonds which you never used and had no idea of their value, which you now

reap million up on millions in royalties from

We apologise for developing Ayers rock and Kakadu, and handing them over

to you so that you get all the money.

We apologise for allowing taxpayers money paid towards daughters'

wedding

($8,000.00 each daughter)

We apologise for giving you $1.7 billion per year for your 250,000

people, which is $48,000.00 per aboriginal man, woman and child.

We apologise for working hard to pay taxes that finance your welfare,

medical care, education, etc to the tune of $1.2 billion each year.

We apologise for you having to approach the aboriginal affairs

department to verify the above figures. For the trouble you will have

identifying the "uncle toms" in your own community who are getting

richer and leaving some of you living in squalor and poverty.

We do apologise. We really do.

We humbly beg your forgiveness for all the above sins.

We are only too happy to take back all the above and return you to the

paradise of the "outback", whenever you are ready.

HEAR HEAR. Cool

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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY Reply #4 - Feb 19^th, 2008 at 5:33pm
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Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY
Reply #5 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 9:28am

After reading the post's left by other member's, I don't know wether to laugh, pity or be enraged at what I have read. I am a indigenous woman, married with 3 children, and I am also of the Stolen Generation.
   So many people seem to be uneducated on the subject, which is not their fault. The 'WE APOLOGISE' that was left by more than one person's, left me laughing so much, as surely people have posted this as a joke , no one could be that immature to bielieve that this is fact?
   I am not half cast, but I was removed from my family, so the statement that only the half caste children were taken is absolute rubbish, like nearly all the statements that were posted.
   It puzzles me that people say that 'they' are not going to apologise. Guess what, you don't have to!
   The Goverment bought in all those policies years ago that effected our people, and it was the Goverment today, that made the apology . I can not understand why individuals have the bielief that they have to personally apologise.
      Just a few questions I have.......
      1. WHAT INTEREST FREE LOANS? My husband & I own our home/property, and had a bank loan like anyone else. Another myth..
      2. WHAT $8000 PER DAUGHTER PER WEDDING?
      3. WHAT $48,000 PER INDIGENOUS PERSON?
      4. NOT CHARGING US RENT ON ANY LANDS WHEN WHITE PEOPLE HAVE TOO? If this is rates you are talking about, could you please notify my shire council, so I am exempt from paying rates on my property, and also the various Real Estates, so that they are aware that my children don't have to pay rent for their houses that they occupy.
      5.WE REAP MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM DEVELOPED OIL WELLS ETC? omg!!!!
      6.FREE TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN AUSTRALIA? Damn it! And to think I just paid almost $1000 in air fares for my family and I to fly to Melbourne! I will have to contact the flight company to let them that we are indigenous and get my money returned. I'm sure they will be understanding.

This is why education has always been a high priority for me with my children, so that they stand educated on facts.

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Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY
Reply #6 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 10:08am

willy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2008 at 9:28am:

After reading the post's left by other member's, I don't know wether to laugh, pity or be enraged at what I have read. I am a indigenous woman, married with 3 children, and I am also of the Stolen Generation.
So many people seem to be uneducated on the subject, which is not their fault. The 'WE APOLOGISE' that was left by more than one person's, left me laughing so much, as surely people have posted this as a joke , no one could be that immature to bielieve that this is fact?
I am not half cast, but I was removed from my family, so the statement that only the half caste children were taken is absolute rubbish, like nearly all the statements that were posted.
It puzzles me that people say that 'they' are not going to apologise. Guess what, you don't have to!
The Goverment bought in all those policies years ago that effected our people, and it was the Goverment today, that made the apology . I can not understand why individuals have the bielief that they have to personally apologise.
Just a few questions I have.......
1. WHAT INTEREST FREE LOANS? My husband & I own our home/property, and had a bank loan like anyone else. Another myth..
2. WHAT $8000 PER DAUGHTER PER WEDDING?
3. WHAT $48,000 PER INDIGENOUS PERSON?
4. NOT CHARGING US RENT ON ANY LANDS WHEN WHITE PEOPLE HAVE TOO? If this is rates you are talking about, could you please notify my shire council, so I am exempt from paying rates on my property, and also the various Real Estates, so that they are aware that my children don't have to pay rent for their houses that they occupy.
5.WE REAP MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM DEVELOPED OIL WELLS ETC? omg!!!!
6.FREE TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN AUSTRALIA? Damn it! And to think I just paid almost $1000 in air fares for my family and I to fly to Melbourne! I will have to contact the flight company to let them that we are indigenous and get my money returned. I'm sure they will be understanding.

This is why education has always been a high priority for me with my children, so that they stand educated on facts.

Hi willy,

Nice to see you in here.

Not everyone in here is ignorant

refer you to this post on same subject..

post 1720

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1172229352/141#141

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Reply #7 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 10:24am

I am deeply sorry If I offended you willy.
I admit I am not an expert on aboriginal affairs. This was an email sent to me,
you seem as though you are one of the few who I mentioned who are working hard to make an honest living and get no recognition for it.
I don't know your background but to give you a little of mine,
I have aboriginal cousins and have grown up with many aboriginal friends.
in WA aboriginals do reap millions from oil and gas and mining because it is on their historical lands. Why did you go through a bank for your housing loan? you are eligable for low interest housing loans from the government
$48,000 per aboriginal person is what is given to aboriginals in government benefits.
No rent on lands is in relation to Stations that are set up to aid aboriginal commuities in order for them to earn money for their communities.
My post mis-represented my position on this issue people such as yourself deserve the respect of every Australian. My anger lies with the alcoholic, drug addicted, thieving majority who will not even work in their own house let alone at job.

Are you a drug addict, an anti social alcoholic, a thief do you break into houses to steal money for any of these habits.
Judging by your post you are educated, literate honest and hardworking. It saddens me that I have offended you because you deserve any government assistance you are elligable for, the thing is you don't seem to have taken advantage of it, you must admit you are a vast minority within your race. I have a friend who works on outback stations in WA and NT who stays with me sometimes when he comes to town. He spends thousands of his hard earned $$$ on his 4wd, I asked him one day-
me "why don't you just get a new one"
him "I can't afford a new one"
me "you only have to make 3 payments and the government will pay it out for you"
him "no, no I buy my own car"
This man does not drink, does not smoke, books up a couple of hundred dollars in credit in town then goes back to work and has his boss put the money into his creditors accounts from his wages.
I feel priveliged to know this man and I am proud that he calls me a friend. His own "friends" and family bum lifts hundreds of kms to buy grog, and give him no fuel money they have stolen his car several times and stolen money from him.

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Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY
Reply #8 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 10:27am

willy says..

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This is why education has always been a high priority for me with my children, so that they stand educated on facts.

People in places like this willy arent concerned with facts..

Why -?

Because they wake up in the morning- look in the mirror decide thay hate themselves and theyre life [[ a life where they are given every ooportunity to succeed btw by no virtue of their own] and then come into a forum like this to kick a minority because it makes them feel bigger and better about themselves today.

Put like that- they are the oppressed I guess. ha ha.

Every time we choose to chip away at anothers dignity and freedom, we lose a peice of our own...

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The Willy Watchers(Guest) Guest	Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY Reply #9 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 12:46pm Quote: willy says.. Quote: This is why education has always been a high priority for me with my children, so that they stand educated on facts. People in places like this willy Like what willy? Do willys come to places? So may questions, so few answers . . . . .
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willy New Member Offline willy say's HI Posts: 23 Gender:	Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY Reply #10 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 2:36pm To the WILLY WATCHERS - I'm sorry but I could not understand what you were trying to say?
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oceanz Gold Member Offline Auzgurl.. Posts: 3531 Gender:	Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY Reply #11 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 2:47pm willy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2008 at 2:36pm: To the WILLY WATCHERS - I'm sorry but I could not understand what you were trying to say? I dont think "Willy Watcher" does either willy...A lot of weird one off guest posting happens in here.
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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY Reply #12 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 4:00pm willy wrote on Feb 20^th, 2008 at 2:36pm: To the WILLY WATCHERS - I'm sorry but I could not understand what you were trying to say? 'twas me willy - another of my lame attempts at humour. It's a tough crowd mate.
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Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY
Reply #13 - Feb 20^th, 2008 at 8:14pm

merou wrote on Feb 20^th, 2008 at 10:24am:

I am deeply sorry If I offended you willy.
I admit I am not an expert on aboriginal affairs. This was an email sent to me,
you seem as though you are one of the few who I mentioned who are working hard to make an honest living and get no recognition for it.
I don't know your background but to give you a little of mine,
I have aboriginal cousins and have grown up with many aboriginal friends.
in WA aboriginals do reap millions from oil and gas and mining because it is on their historical lands. Why did you go through a bank for your housing loan? you are eligable for low interest housing loans from the government
$48,000 per aboriginal person is what is given to aboriginals in government benefits.
No rent on lands is in relation to Stations that are set up to aid aboriginal commuities in order for them to earn money for their communities.
My post mis-represented my position on this issue people such as yourself deserve the respect of every Australian. My anger lies with the alcoholic, drug addicted, thieving majority who will not even work in their own house let alone at job.

Are you a drug addict, an anti social alcoholic, a thief do you break into houses to steal money for any of these habits.
Judging by your post you are educated, literate honest and hardworking. It saddens me that I have offended you because you deserve any government assistance you are elligable for, the thing is you don't seem to have taken advantage of it, you must admit you are a vast minority within your race. I have a friend who works on outback stations in WA and NT who stays with me sometimes when he comes to town. He spends thousands of his hard earned $$$ on his 4wd, I asked him one day-
me "why don't you just get a new one"
him "I can't afford a new one"
me "you only have to make 3 payments and the government will pay it out for you"
him "no, no I buy my own car"
This man does not drink, does not smoke, books up a couple of hundred dollars in credit in town then goes back to work and has his boss put the money into his creditors accounts from his wages.
I feel priveliged to know this man and I am proud that he calls me a friend. His own "friends" and family bum lifts hundreds of kms to buy grog, and give him no fuel money they have stolen his car several times and stolen money from him.

how many "stolen" cases have been proven in court? its a nice little number

no body seems to mind when the government takes WHITE children away from white families, but because they are an aboriginal minority its now evil?

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willy(Guest) Guest	Re: KEVIN RUDD'S APOLOGY Reply #14 - Feb 21^st, 2008 at 9:48am Could anyone please tell me how I can put up a profile picture please.
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