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Reply #60 - May 19th, 2008 at 9:03pm
 
same sex couples can't have kids.
So, they should not be allowed to have kids.

If you cant have kids, you can't have them.

If you will let your sexual desire run over the want for kids, so be it.
You are not parent material
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Reply #61 - May 19th, 2008 at 9:44pm
 
Sprint, same sex couples can have kids. There is nothing illegal about it. Would you like me to draw you a picture?
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Reply #62 - May 19th, 2008 at 9:49pm
 
needs an egg and some seed to have a baby.

Want me to draw you a piccie ?
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Reply #63 - May 19th, 2008 at 9:59pm
 
Who says gay people can't do that? Think about it sprint. 'Gay' people are not incapable of having 'straight' sex. Plenty of them do for fun. There's no reason why they can't do it to procreate, as many do.
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Reply #64 - May 19th, 2008 at 10:17pm
 
plenty of gay people do all sorts of stuff for "fun"
poor gerbils.

yes, a gay man can bonk a gay lesbian and have a kid.
but a same sex marriage cannot have kids within that marriage and should not be allowed to adopt.
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Reply #65 - May 20th, 2008 at 4:30pm
 
Good onya sprint, give it to these pillow biters.
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Reply #66 - May 20th, 2008 at 4:34pm
 
Why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt sprint?
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Reply #67 - May 20th, 2008 at 8:43pm
 
freediver - to repeat myself
"same sex couples can't have kids.
So, they should not be allowed to have kids.

If you cant have kids, you can't have them."


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Reply #68 - May 20th, 2008 at 9:17pm
 
I thought so, but I just wanted to make sure that really was your reasoning.

So if a couple is infertile, they shouldn't be allowed to adopt? By your logic, gay people who still have functioning reproductive organs should get prioritised over infertile hetero couples, as they are far more capable of reproducing the natural way.

Isn't it the interests of the child that matter, rather than the reproductive status of the adoptive parents?
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Reply #69 - May 21st, 2008 at 2:30am
 
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2008 at 9:17pm:
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Isn't it the interests of the child that matter, rather than the reproductive status of the adoptive parents?


Thats right "the interests of the child".
You may argue to be politically correct as much as you want, but the truth remains the same, when that child goes to school they will be ridiculed, laughed at, bashed and humiliated. Is this in "their best interest"
Stop trying to be politically correct and take into account the way the world really works.
besides:
God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve or Anna and Eve.
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Reply #70 - May 21st, 2008 at 1:11pm
 
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You may argue to be politically correct as much as you want, but the truth remains the same, when that child goes to school they will be ridiculed, laughed at, bashed and humiliated. Is this in "their best interest"


You don't know that happens when these children go to school.  There will be others in a similar situation and children are certainly more accepting of their peers than their parents, in many instances.

I didn't get all the details today, but a new law has been passed (is being passed) to ensure children of same sex parents (conceived under IVF) now have the father/mother - both - on their birth certificates  in "the interests of the child". 

These children have been excluded until now and have had no rights to the non biological parent's estate, permission, visiting rights etc.  It sounds like a decent law in the interests of the child, but it could be extended under the Family Law Act.
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Reply #71 - May 21st, 2008 at 3:57pm
 
mantra wrote on May 21st, 2008 at 1:11pm:
[quote]You may argue to be politically correct as much as you want, but the truth remains the same, when that child goes to school they will be ridiculed, laughed at, bashed and humiliated. Is this in "their best interest"


You don't know that happens when these children go to school.  quote]

Come on Mantra, you know as well as I do that it more likely than not they would be ridiculed.
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Reply #72 - May 21st, 2008 at 4:05pm
 
Everyone gets teased at school. I don't think a kid with gay parents would get treated any harsher than other kids. By the time the kids figure out there is something 'wrong' they would be over the worst part of that phase.
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Reply #73 - May 21st, 2008 at 11:06pm
 
freediver - no.

if they cant have kids, they cant have kids.

it's as simple as that.
2 women cant have kids.
2 men cant have kids.

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Reply #74 - May 22nd, 2008 at 7:16am
 
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if they cant have kids, they cant have kids.

it's as simple as that.
2 women cant have kids.
2 men cant have kids.


Sprintcyclist - they are having kids, so we have to do the right thing  and recognise the relationship of their parents.  Denial by society just ensures these kids are social outcasts.

Merou - maybe we can remember the bullying from our school days, but it wasn't because kids had gay parents (basically it hasn't been an issue in the past). 

Kids who have been overly protected, are a bit slow or have some unusual physical characteristic are the ones who get bullied mainly.  There are so many different family set ups these days - that as long as the kid can adapt to mainstream life,  they can cope at school.

We can't stop same sex parents having children, unless we make it a jailable offence, so we have to make it legal for the sake of the children, whether we like it or not.
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