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Reply #240 - Oct 9th, 2008 at 7:48am
 
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but the boys keep me busy (they are triplets) and very focused, they are my world and I keep going for them.


My God Jordan - triplets.  You deserve a medal for bravery and perseverance.  I'm sure they are all gorgeous - but it must have been a nightmare when they all wanted something at once, wouldn't go to sleep or eat at the same time and fought with each other at the same time. 

I'm amazed you've come out of it all with a sense of humour.  Cheesy 

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Reply #241 - Oct 9th, 2008 at 10:33am
 
Hahaha,

Yes, it can be a bit of a mad house, and it certainly was when they were babies.....but it's all about routine, routine, routine, it's the only way to stay sane!! As they get older it gets easier and it's all I know, I don't know what it's like to have one at a time, so it seems normal for me.
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Reply #242 - Nov 6th, 2008 at 1:56pm
 

"Ellen DeGeneres 'saddened beyond belief' by gay marriage ban   November 06, 2008
ELLEN DeGeneres says she is "saddened beyond belief" a ban on gay marriage has been approved by Californian voters.

DeGeneres married Australian actress Portia de Rossi in August, three months after the Californian Supreme Court legalised same-sex marriage.

Yesterday's vote for Proposition 8, a constitutional amendment to outlaw gay marriage, leaves the stars and thousands of other gay couples in legal limbo.

"Barack Obama is our new president. Change is here. I like millions of of Americans, felt like we had taken a giant step toward equality," the talk-show host said on her website.

"This morning, when it was clear that Proposition 8 had passed in California, I can’t explain the feeling I had. I was saddened beyond belief.

"Here we just had a giant step toward equality and then on the very next day, we took a giant step away."

Proposition 8 was approved in a referendum by 52.1 per cent of voters, compared with 47.9 per cent who voted against.

Local media reported that a lesbian couple, who previously won the right to marry with the Supreme Court ruling, were to file a new suit to stop the referendum from coming into effect.

Japanese-American actor George Takei, who played Mr Sulu in the long-running series Star Trek, and who married his longtime partner Brad Altman in September, said his marriage would stay remain valid no matter what.

"There's nothing in the language of Proposition 8 that says it's retroactive, so our marriage is going to be valid," he told a local TV channel.

"But what we're concerned about is the young people of the future. Proposition 8 will eliminate in the constitution of the state their options of really being who they want to be."

Hollywood stars including Brad Pitt and Steven Spielberg, as well as multinational companies such as Apple, had flocked to the "No" camp against the ban, with donations of up to $US100,000 ($142,920).

Arizona and Florida also passed similar referendums by large margins yesterday, stating that marriage was the legal union between a man and a woman.

The largest was in Florida where 62 per cent of voters approved the measure compared to 38 per cent against.

President-elect Obama has previously said he supports civil unions for same-sex couples which would give them exactly the same rights as married heterosexual couples."


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24611555-12377,00.html



Saddenned beyond belief ???
I can't believe that.
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Reply #243 - Nov 6th, 2008 at 2:01pm
 
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Arizona and Florida also passed similar referendums by large margins yesterday, stating that marriage was the legal union between a man and a woman.


Are these people just stupid? Why do they seem incapable of separating a semantic issue from a rights issue? Were the referendums really worded that ambiguously?
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Reply #244 - Nov 6th, 2008 at 7:46pm
 
Thursday November 06, 2008 03:10AM EST

PEOPLE Top 5 are the most-viewed stories on the site over the past three days, updated every 60 minutes
People ExclusiveEllen and Portia Get Married
By Julie Jordan

Originally posted Sunday August 17, 2008 01:00 AM EDT
Portia de Rossi (left) and Ellen DeGeneres
Photo by: Lester Cohen / WireImage  

Ring the wedding bells!

Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi have tied the knot.

"Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi were married tonight in an intimate ceremony at their home in Los Angeles," their spokesperson tells PEOPLE exclusively.

DeGeneres, 50, and de Rossi, 35, both wore Zac Posen and exchanged rings by Neil Lane during the Saturday ceremony. Their big day also featured arrangements by L.A. florist Mark's Garden.

The intimate ceremony was attended by 19 guests, including DeGeneres's mom Betty and de Rossi's mother Margaret Rogers (who flew in from Australia for the occasion), who witnessed the couple exchange handwritten vows.

The couple have been dating since December 2004. DeGeneres announced her plans to wed de Rossi during a taping of her talk show in May after California's Supreme Court ruled a previous ban on gay marriage to be unconstitutional.

The following month de Rossi showed off a 3-carat diamond ring set on a pink pavé band DeGeneres presented to her for their upcoming nuptials when the pair attended the Daytime Emmy Awards together.

"She's taught me lessons about myself, and I feel like I've taught her," the TV host said of de Rossi last year. "We've both changed and grown, and we just feel like, 'Oh, okay, this is completion.'"



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Reply #245 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 10:03am
 
oceanz wrote on Aug 23rd, 2007 at 11:06pm:
Controversial topic but nonetheless important.

Most pple agree gay pple should be allowed to marry , to experinece the same rights under the law as everyone else..As far as I know in Australia gay marriage is not reconised but I guess inevitably it will be.


The question is do you agree with gay marriage and should the couple be allowed to have children in theyre care..male/male
or female/female couples?


Thoughts? and any reasons.


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/01/gayparentsCORBIS_228x263.jpg



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We know that Gay men most admire for their sexual pleasure young boys. Many available data confirms that 99% gay men wants to adopt boys. Also we know that 99% gay men became gays when they were raped by other gays at early age of their lives.
Considering all above conclude for yourself.

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Reply #246 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 1:21pm
 
Do you believe everything you hear athos?
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Reply #247 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 2:37pm
 
athos wrote on Nov 7th, 2008 at 10:03am:
oceanz wrote on Aug 23rd, 2007 at 11:06pm:
Controversial topic but nonetheless important.

Most pple agree gay pple should be allowed to marry , to experinece the same rights under the law as everyone else..As far as I know in Australia gay marriage is not reconised but I guess inevitably it will be.


The question is do you agree with gay marriage and should the couple be allowed to have children in theyre care..male/male
or female/female couples?


Thoughts? and any reasons.


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/01/gayparentsCORBIS_228x263.jpg



http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/16/00/22970016.jpg




We know that Gay men most admire for their sexual pleasure young boys. Many available data confirms that 99% gay men wants to adopt boys. Also we know that 99% gay men became gays when they were raped by other gays at early age of their lives.
Considering all above conclude for yourself.



Im not argueing with that at all  athos..I have raised these points myself.
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Reply #248 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 2:41pm
 
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99% gay men became gays when they were raped by other gays at early age of their lives


You actually agree with that Oceans?
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Reply #249 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 2:57pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 7th, 2008 at 2:41pm:
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99% gay men became gays when they were raped by other gays at early age of their lives


You actually agree with that Oceans?


Yes.

But it would be hard to quote actual percentages of gay men who become gay due to prior abuse in childhood- but would have to be a definite determing factor if in fact they were abused and later on became or turned out to be gay.

Data is not that reliable anyway.

I know someone who this happend to and thats all I want to say .


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Reply #250 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 3:03pm
 
That's absurd.
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Reply #251 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 3:07pm
 
You can't turn gay from rape. It's innate.

There are plenty of child sex victims who do not become gay.

Maybe some of the victims of gay pedophiles make themselves attractive targets because they already behave gay, ie, 'you have nice muscles', etc etc etc. Or maybe not.

Gay is gay is gay. There are straight people who have been homosexually abused. Just as there are gay people.
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Reply #252 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 3:19pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 7th, 2008 at 3:03pm:
That's absurd.


what is?
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Reply #253 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 3:22pm
 
easel wrote on Nov 7th, 2008 at 3:07pm:
You can't turn gay from rape. It's innate.
There are plenty of child sex victims who do not become gay.

Maybe some of the victims of gay pedophiles make themselves attractive targets because they already behave gay, ie, 'you have nice muscles', etc etc etc. Or maybe not.

[i]Gay is gay is gay. There are straight people who have been homosexually abused. Just as there are gay people.


I never mentioned rape, you did..abuse can be violent or the abuser can , does and will present his abuse as a form of love..to confuse the victim..better a willing victim than a frightened angry one.

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Gay is gay is gay. There are straight people who have been homosexually abused. Just as there are gay people


can you back that up?

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Tell me, why is it that the vast majority of gay men over say, 35, crave young men with boyish looks and hairless bodies
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you seem to have changed your tune easel..you believed further back in this thread that gay men targetted young boys and now you say that those young boys must be displaying homosexual tendencies..
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Reply #254 - Nov 7th, 2008 at 3:26pm
 
This is absurd Oceans:

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99% gay men became gays when they were raped by other gays at early age of their lives
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