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Are Christians severely favoured by God?
Jun 19^th, 2007 at 8:59pm

Muslims are convinced that their religion is right...

Yet... they're hit with earthquakes, tidal waves, bombs, plague, their land is in chaos... yet... they stubbornly press on believing that they're right and the rest of the world is wrong.

Jews are convinced they're right...

Yet... they got the holocaust... hundreds of years of persecution... continue to be targetted by Muslim suicide bombers... etc etc... but they still carry on like they're right.

Christians are living comfortably in most countries without severe suffering as much as the Muslims and Jews. We have countries with the highest living standards, best technology and the most liberated nations...

Which begs the question... are Christians favoured by God and is God severely punishing the other two for being complete jerk-offs throughout history?

I'll let you decide. Cool

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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: Are Christians are severely favoured by God? Reply #1 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 9:01pm BLOODY OATH
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Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God?
Reply #2 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 9:37pm

Donald,
Funny, I was thinking of that a few hours ago. On a different scale though.

It was on a more individual scale. And I thought not.
I know and have known christians who are as poor and just as unhappy as anyone else.
Hard to tell on an individual front.
maybe "christian countries" are better off cause they have real democratic elections, freedom, policing, honesty, reward for effort and perseverence. That sort of stuff.

It would seem ........... unfair, that christians got a better deal, just 'cause of our belief.
One quote that supports this is "The rain shall fall upon the good as well as the wicked."
Might not be accurate, but the meaning is similar. can find the reference if you want.
The story of "Job" supports this idea too.

My thinking came through a few things said at a church about the supernatural benefits given to tithing that my g/f and I were uncomfortable with.
maybe that is due to our lack of faith. I really don't know. See, I don't tithe
It is the way some churches put it, and healing too.
As though ALL christians should be wealthy and always healthy.
What if (when) a christian is poor or ill ? Is that a bad reflection on them ?

Jews are His first chosen.

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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God? Reply #3 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 9:51pm Quote: Jews are His first chosen. He chose poorly.
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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God? Reply #4 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 10:36pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 9:37pm: Jews are His first chosen. I thought he said he'd punish them for all eternity for what they did.
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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God? Reply #5 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:34pm Quote: I don't favour anyone... I couldn't really give a shit to tell you the truth. I've had a guts full of you ants bitching and moaning amongst yourselves. HA HA HA HA! Very insightfull... DICKHEAD.*
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oceanz Gold Member Offline Auzgurl.. Posts: 3531 Gender:	Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God? Reply #6 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 12:28am Quote: I don't favour anyone... I couldn't really give a sh*it to tell you the truth. I've had a guts full of you ants bitching and moaning amongst yourselves. This would imply that this 'guest' is a regular poster here..no prizes for guessing who.
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Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God?
Reply #7 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 8:37am

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 8:59pm:

Christians are living comfortably in most countries without severe suffering as much as the Muslims and Jews. We have countries with the highest living standards, best technology and the most liberated nations...

Which begs the question... are Christians favoured by God and is God severely punishing the other two for being complete jerk-offs throughout history?

I'll let you decide. Cool

Interesting topic donaldtrump, but the thing is most religions acknowledge the concept of the afterlife - i.e. life after death, which is supposed to be for all of eternity which is the real reward (not prosperity in this life). As to which religion is correct, who knows, but i don't necessarily see prosperity in the world now as being a sign that God loves us.

The way alot of religions look at it, is that there more of a trade-off, either God gives u prosperity in this life but punishes you for all of eternity in the afterlife or the reverse occurs - i.e. God punishes u in this life and gives u prosperity for all of eternity in the afterlife.

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Gavin Senior Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 304 Sydney, Australia Gender:	Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God? Reply #8 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 8:40am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 9:37pm: maybe "christian countries" are better off cause they have real democratic elections i find that comment via amusing, here's why: http://ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1181878710/0
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Reply #9 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 3:27pm

Ausnat and Donald : can't recall He said He would punish them for that. In a weird way, they did the right thing. What was predicted in the Old testament. jews sure have had it tough since then.
Is a strange relationship between jews, jesus and christians.
On the cross jesus asked for him to forgive them.

gavin, I have heard of that idea. ie people either get it good here or in the next world.
Don't really agree with it. Ones that do well "here" should be more "helpful" in this world than those that are poor. Would seem "preset" to bless someone in the spiritual world on the basis they had it tough in this one. Sort of a "catholic-its-good-to-be-poor" mentality ?

jesus was rich though, as were his followers then. Only having paupers as followers is useless.

I'm happy to agree to disagree with you gavin on genuine democracy, or any other topic.

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Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God?
Reply #10 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 5:34pm

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[quote author=sprintcyclist link=1182250799/0#9 date=1182317246]Ausnat and Donald : can't recall He said He would punish them for that. In a weird way, they did the right thing. What was predicted in the Old testament. jews sure have had it tough since then.

Oh yeah.......... the holohoax. and egyptian slavery Roll Eyes

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Is a strange relationship between jews, jesus and christians.

Yep..... Juden and goyim.

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Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God?
Reply #11 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 7:43pm

Gavin wrote on Jun 20^th, 2007 at 8:37am:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 8:59pm:

Christians are living comfortably in most countries without severe suffering as much as the Muslims and Jews. We have countries with the highest living standards, best technology and the most liberated nations...

Which begs the question... are Christians favoured by God and is God severely punishing the other two for being complete jerk-offs throughout history?

I'll let you decide. Cool

Interesting topic donaldtrump, but the thing is most religions acknowledge the concept of the afterlife - i.e. life after death, which is supposed to be for all of eternity which is the real reward (not prosperity in this life). As to which religion is correct, who knows, but i don't necessarily see prosperity in the world now as being a sign that God loves us.

The way alot of religions look at it, is that there more of a trade-off, either God gives u prosperity in this life but punishes you for all of eternity in the afterlife or the reverse occurs - i.e. God punishes u in this life and gives u prosperity for all of eternity in the afterlife.

Yeah... true...

But why would God be doing that to them? ....To test their faith? Tongue

Pretty bloody harsh test. Grin

The question is... why is God favouring them? True... the real reward is the afterlife... but why has god singled them out for so long? Grin

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Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God?
Reply #12 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 7:45pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 20^th, 2007 at 3:27pm:

Ausnat and Donald : can't recall He said He would punish them for that. In a weird way, they did the right thing. What was predicted in the Old testament. jews sure have had it tough since then.
Is a strange relationship between jews, jesus and christians.
On the cross jesus asked for him to forgive them.

Sprint... I'm POSITIVE that somewhere in the New Testament someone said that the Jews would get their just desserts. 'Someone.' Probably not jesus though... he's too pure of heart to say something like that.

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Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God?
Reply #13 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 8:03pm

Donald - as we will be judged by our deeds, I guess you could say we will ALL get our just deserts !!
Hopefully mine are pretty good .

Jesus gave a few people a good verbal belting, could well have been him. He got stuck into the pharisees big time. And the religious leaders.

In a way, the jews did the correct thing by crucifying him.
By doing that they fulfilled the prophecies and enabled everyone a way to God.
Gods ways are surely not our ways.

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AusNat Ex Member Gender:	Re: Are Christians severely favoured by God? Reply #14 - Jun 20^th, 2007 at 8:08pm Quote: we will be judged by our deeds, I guess you could say we will ALL get our just deserts !! IM IN TROUBLE!
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