NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 20^th, 2009 at 2:56pm:




But i do love my enemy helian.

I love him/her so much, that i hope that he/she will turn from their wickedness.

Why?




Jesus advised,

Mark 11:25
And when ye stand praying,

forgive

, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
26  But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.


Luke 17:3
Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4  And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

God's offer of mercy, is for the repentant soul.

Dictionary,
repent = = feel or express sincere regret or remorse. (repent oneself of) archaic feel regret or penitence about.


Psalms 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

Psalms 11:5
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.






Christian doctrine?

For me,

1/ Wait on God.

2/ Hate the evil, and love the good. [Amos 5:15]


Hosea 12:6
Therefore turn thou to thy God: keep mercy

and judgment

, and wait on thy God continually.

Psalms 25:4
Shew me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths.
5  Lead me in thy truth, and teach me: for thou art the God of my salvation; on thee do I wait all the day.









Micah 3:1
And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; Is it not for you to know judgment?
2  Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
3  Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
4  Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
5  Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.
6  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.
7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
8  But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
9  Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel,

that abhor judgment

, and pervert all equity.
10  They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.
11  The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.
12  Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.


This came upon Jerusalem.

The land of Israel, was, became, a desolation.

And those words of Micah are a rebuke to all men, not to just Jews, and to Israel.




Isaiah 1:21
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
22  Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:
23  Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
24  Therefore saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
25  And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:
26  And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
27 

Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness

.
28  And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed.


Judgement begins in the house of God.

Always.


1 Corinthians 10:1
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
etc, etc, etc,
11  Now all these things happened unto them [the children of ISRAEL] for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

Oh thats just  great, there's two of you now, the're multiplying.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 15^th, 2007 at 1:38pm:


Anti-Zionist Orthodox Rabbis Comfort Victims of Flotilla Attack

June 7, 2010: Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jewish Rabbis visit the wounded victims of the Zionist attack on the humanitarian flotilla to Gaza.

Jews and Arabs are the same race so called Semitic Race

My question is;
How come when someone criticizes Israel and Zionists is Antisemitic and someone who hates Palestinians is not Antisemitic?


Antisemitic = Anyone who mentions Israel or Zionism
Zionism= Fascism
Concentration camp= Gaza

"I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day "Palestinians" to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won't work here. "

Especially since the 'Biblica Philistines' were in fact Greeks...l

That's so lame. Here's reality. Everyone knows that Israel is blockading Gaza to maintain its access to fresh blood.



Italia - they are lucky to have you, Athos.

Athos,,
"How come when someone criticizes Israel and Zionists is Antisemitic and someone who hates Palestinians is not Antisemitic?"

The term 'antisemitism' was coined by Wilhelm Marr in Germany in 1879, in a pamphlet entitled 'The Victory of Judaism Over Germanism'.

Marr introduced the term antisemitism as a scientific approach to the subject, and a positive alternative to the more confronting expression, 'Jew-hatred'.

Antisemitism is not hostility towards 'Semites' (ethnic and cultural groups associated by their common language features such as speakers of Arabic, Aramaic, or Hebrew). It is the term used specifically to describe hatred against Jews.

The European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC) adopted a working definition of antisemitism, developed by a small number of NGOs, which provides a useful starting point for dealing with antisemitism:

Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.

Beyond this, antisemitism is involved when Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity, is singled out from the world's nations.

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Or criticised. Or questioned.

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It's thrown around so often that the words themselves hardly have any impact.