How can you have Peace without first bringing justice to those who have been oppressed and had their lands stolen for 60 years?

You say that Malik, but you also pretend that the Arabs are prepared to offer peace without giving back all that land. Can you see why they aren't trusted?

How can you have peace without first bringing security and safety to a people who are oppressed?

That doesn't make sense Malik. Security and safety will come from peace. You don't keep lobbing rockets and say you will only stop when there is peace. That doesn't make sense.

How about you tell them to stop killing the Palestinians, tell them to stop their construction of illegal settlements in the West Bank.

Malik, no peace will ever come while the Palestinians deny any responsibility for their actions. There's no point pretending that it's all Israel's fault.

It means you consider Muslims subhuman

No it doesn't Malik. No matter how many times you and Abu repeat this little mantra, it won't make it true. Change the record already.

Using your logic we could easily then ascertain that 9/11, 7/7, the Madrid and Bali attacks were all consequences of such votes.

Plenty of people do.

So then technically having said that and used your own logic it's completely ok to make the people suffer for what their governments have done in the Middle East.

I think you're getting into morals here, not technicalities. So, taking it back to the original topic, the fact that Hamas was democratically elected is a technicality. Whether the west is doing the right thing with the embargo comes down to morals. Do you think they are doing the right thing?

We don't know the circumstances behind the deaths. If Israel refused to conditions for the release of the prisoners of war then their death was sealed by the Israeli's.

That's pretty twisted logic Malik. You seem to be putting technicalities ahead of morals again.

That's not true at all. They not murdering the rest of the Palestinians doesn't mean they recognise the Palestinian state's right to exist.

Read the post again Malik. Israel does recognise Palestine's right to exist. Not by not murdering the people, but by allowing the state to exist.

You dont steal a peoples land and force them to live in ghettos and refugee camps and shoot at them all day and expect peace either.

The Israeli's do not shoot at children in school yards for sport. You just made that up to justify the violence.

OPT: Number of children killed doubles

JERUSALEM, 12 October 2006 (IRIN) - The number of Palestinian children who have been killed so far this year in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip almost doubles the number killed for the whole of 2005, according to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF).

Many of the children died after being shot by Israeli troops during military operations or were killed in Israeli air strikes on houses.

On Thursday, 13-year-old Suhaib Kadiah became the 92nd Palestinian child to be killed this year when she was shot dead by Israeli troops during an incursion into the Khan Younis area of Gaza.

The Israeli army said it was looking for tunnels and other infrastructure it said was being used by militants. Suhaib was among five members of the same family that were killed in a firefight.

In July alone, 36 children were killed in Gaza after Israel launched a military operation following the capture of an Israeli soldier by Palestinian militants.

A total of 52 Palestinian children were killed in 2005. Overall, 819 children have been killed since the beginning of the second intifada [Palestinian uprising against Israeli military occupation] in 2000, according to UNICEF statistics.

Youngsters are suffering increasing levels of stress from violence and fear in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, UNICEF said.

"They are confronted with regular military operations, shelling, house demolitions and checkpoints on their way to schools," said Anne Grandjean, a UNICEF Child Protection Officer.

"As a result we find high prevalence of signs of stress such as anxiety, eating and sleeping disorders, and difficulties concentrating in school. All of these signs need to be tackled as soon as possible to avoid a long-lasting impact on the child's development," she added.

UNICEF and the Humanitarian Aid Department of the European Commission are using teams of social workers and psychologists to respond to children's needs.

Every month they reach 3,000 children and their families, offering support and counseling after violent incidents, UNICEF said.

The counseling sessions end every month with a festival and beach party where thousands of children are given the chance to play and interact with each other away from the conflict.

"These festivals are important because they are about protecting childhood," said Dan Rohrmann, UNICEF Special Representative for Gaza and the West Bank.

"It's an opportunity for children to be children, which is rare here in Gaza, because they live in an environment of extraordinary fear and violence and insecurity,” added Rohrmann.

Eissa Alyoub, from Beit Lahiya in Gaza, said his children were left petrified by Israeli air and artillery strikes.