Classic Liberal wrote on Jun 16^th, 2007 at 4:41pm:


sorry, i probably worded that badly, i didn't mean that Israel rigged the current elections, i meant that Israel supporting the elections on the basis Fatah would win makes u wonder why have an election in the first place??

i mean if u want Fatah to stay in power, just say so, rather than saying do elections - but we would ignore the result if Hamas wins.

they severed ties when hamas got elected, they would not make deals with a nation whose governemnt wishes to invade their own.

gavin - the impression I have is hamas will murder every jew.

they are extremists. They WON'T listen. Their "belief" is based on excessiveness.
eg, "nonscientists" may have thought  "scientists" would be 'satisfied' at the complete human genone mapped out.
But no, they are scientists, they HAVE to always go further. Is what scientists are, is their definition.

Likewise, extremists are never satisfied.  Their goal is to make the whole world submissive under islam, as is stated in the koran. They crave to be dead, so warring is akin to tham, as stated in the koran.
They behead and lop off hands and feet of "infidels", as stated in the koran.

extremists should be nuked.  They desire death anyway. They won't stop. They won't reason.
They ARE extremists.

Sorry for the tangent, but why would non-scientists expect scientists to be 'happy' with mapping the human genome? What's the point of having information if you don't use it? It was obviously just the beginning of something.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 17^th, 2007 at 4:55pm:


if i was jewish, i would be concerned with Hamas getting elected - so i would advocate that we build up our defenses so that we're ready if or when Hamas invades.

also, if i am a true advocate of democracy, then i would also acknowledge that the Palestinans have a right to vote for who they want in power even if they want Hamas, just like a Jewish person has a right to vote for the right-wing/anti-Palestinan party. 

but to advocate nuking the Palestinans civilians in not acceptable, since if u take that stance - then ur not any better than Hamas.

well, it seems i'm the only one posting on this topic about democracy and how democracy is about giving people the right to vote for who they want in power.

if we want to put democracy in the Middle East, then it has to be real democracy and not just democracy as long as the Islamists aren't voted in. doing that isn't really democracy since ur dictating who can or cannot get into power - and are ignoring what the actual people want.

the Palestinans voted for Hamas, who won the election - now we don't agree on their policies, but so what, it's not my country. if i see them as a threat, then the most i can do is make provisions in case of a war, e.g. beefing up security.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 17^th, 2007 at 5:39pm:



world domination???

i thought we were supposed to spread democracy throughout the world - well i guess i was wrong, we only want democracy when parties we like are elected. that's not real democracy.

So your goal for world domination is democracy and free speech ?