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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Martyr Mouse - RIP Reply #195 - Jul 8^th, 2007 at 11:46pm ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jul 8^th, 2007 at 11:41pm: Never mind. C'mon.
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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Martyr Mouse - RIP Reply #196 - Jul 9^th, 2007 at 12:13am Quote: ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jul 8^th, 2007 at 11:41pm: Never mind. C'mon. 'Wake up Jeff' is a 'Wiggles' song (Childrens band). I replaced the words 'Jeff' with 'Mohammed' to give it a delightful Islamic ring to it.
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Re: Martyr Mouse - RIP
Reply #197 - Jul 9^th, 2007 at 12:21am

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jul 9^th, 2007 at 12:13am:

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ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jul 8^th, 2007 at 11:41pm:

Never mind. Tongue

C'mon.

'Wake up Jeff' is a 'Wiggles' song (Childrens band). I replaced the words 'Jeff' with 'Mohammed' to give it a delightful Islamic ring to it.

Ah ok- im not familiar on the wiggles. when they came out i was a late teenager!

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Reply #198 - Jul 9^th, 2007 at 9:34am

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jul 8^th, 2007 at 9:19pm:

My favourite character of any TV show, Farfour mouse, has been killed on Palestianian TV by an Israeli agent... Grin

I have to admit, the way they killed off the Mickey Mouse was very, very clever.

The reason being that there was a huge uproar in the international media about the cartoon, so Hamas got rid of the cartoon due to the international pressure. But on the other hand, by having the Mickey Mouse being killed off by an Israeli agent, they are effectively passing on their message to the kids.

From their perspective, it's basically killing two birds with one stone, getting the international community off their backs and passing on their message to the Palestinan kids at the same time.

Very clever stuff.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: Martyr Mouse - RIP Reply #199 - Jul 9^th, 2007 at 11:06am Hamas Mickey Mouse vs GI Joe http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1179210221 Hamas Mickey Mouse vs GI Joe – are they the same thing, i.e. propaganda tools used by the Palestinians and the United States respectively to promote/glorify war for their own goals?
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Reply #200 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 2:38am

freediver wrote on Jul 9^th, 2007 at 11:06am:

Hamas Mickey Mouse vs GI Joe

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1179210221

Hamas Mickey Mouse vs GI Joe – are they the same thing, i.e. propaganda tools used by the Palestinians and the United States respectively to promote/glorify war for their own goals?

I cringed reading that old thread because you and Gavin raised such ridiculous points.

This Palestinian mouse DOES NOT compare with stupid GI Joe, nor any other American childrens program (None that I can think of anyway). I mean, geez, have you even WATCHED GI Joe before, Freediver?

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Reply #201 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 8:53am

Freediver has a point DT. Not that I've ever watched any violence if I could help it - but I know my kids used to watch plenty of it in so called innocent cartoons.

Take for example the Barbie Doll - how many American women look like one - obviously this is a way to get to children so they grow up with a preconceived idea of what they want to look like or how to behave when they are adults.

From what I remember many cartoons contained dark swarthy terrorists - before the word even became that popular. Most adults didn't think twice about it - but who knows what brainwashing lurked in the back of our children's brains.

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Reply #202 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 10:28am

hamas martyr mouse is encouraging kids to be suicide bombers.
That is suported in The bible by ishmaels "associates", they used to sacrifice their own kids - same as muslims today.
In the koran where they are instructed to not mourn for their "martyrs". Do not shown any human emotions.

GI joe started this way :
The 40s
In 1943, a pigeon named G.I. Joe rescued over a thousand people in Italy by delivering a crucial message.
In 1945, a hit movie, The Story of G.I. Joe, about war correspondent Ernie Pyle in World War II, was released. Burgess Meredith starred.

It is not brainwashing, it is the facts . all terrorists are muslims. what did hilali say ?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: Martyr Mouse - RIP Reply #203 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 10:32am all terrorists are muslims I thought we'd been through this already?
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Reply #204 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 10:48am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 10^th, 2007 at 10:28am:

In the koran where they are instructed to not mourn for their "martyrs". Do not shown any human emotions.

well, if the person dies a martyr, then they would be granted a place in heaven wouldn't they? If so, then why would u mourn them if they are in a better place.

i don't think it's about not showing human emotions.

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GI joe started this way :
The 40s
In 1943, a pigeon named G.I. Joe rescued over a thousand people in Italy by delivering a crucial message.
In 1945, a hit movie, The Story of G.I. Joe, about war correspondent Ernie Pyle in World War II, was released. Burgess Meredith starred.

I'm pretty sure GI Joe was based on an American World War II solider, and who was fighting against the Nazis. so that would mean it would promote pro-American and anti-Nazi propaganda.

i think that previous thread raised some very good points, all countries use cartoons to promote their own agenda and cartoons typically target kids.

by the way, was i reading it correctly, didn't Donald Trump agree with Gavin on the issue, saying that propaganda was to be expected?

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It is not brainwashing, it is the facts . all terrorists are muslims. what did hilali say ?

so i take it Timothy McVeigh is muslim? what about Eric Ruldolph?
they weren't muslim and were responsible for terrorist attacks in recent years.

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Reply #205 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 11:00am

That's what they are told skeptic. they are also told their dead will suffer of they are mourned.
it is about not being human, not talking the truth.

I stand corrected re terrorists. I did mean religious terrorists.
Even given that, sure only 99.99 % are muslims.
To put it in perspective, in the weekend on one day htere was 100 killed in iraq by muslim terrorists.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: Martyr Mouse - RIP Reply #206 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 11:04am If you want to keep things in perspective, you should not ignore history.
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Reply #207 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 11:04am

mantra/skeptic - here are some more "dark swarthy terrorists. " Oh, muslims too !!!
Same as the recent doctors and undonbtly the next ones.

Fourth man found guilty of London bomb plot
Posted 6 hours 1 minute ago
Updated 4 hours 50 minutes ago

Muktar Said Ibrahim (L) and Ramzi Mohammed surrender to the police after a siege in west London, July 29, 2005. (Reuters: Metropolitan Police handout)
A British court found four men guilty over a failed Islamist plot to set off bombs in London on July 21, 2005, two weeks after suicide bombings which killed 52 commuters in the capital.

Muktar Said Ibrahim, 29, Yassin Omar, 26, Ramzi Mohammed, 25, and Hussain Osman, 28, were found guilty of conspiracy to murder after a six-month trial.

The plot to explode home-made devices made of hydrogen peroxide and chapatti flour in rucksacks was executed exactly 14 days after the July 7 attacks which killed a total of 56 people, including four British Islamist bombers.

The verdicts came on the seventh day of deliberations and amid intense media interest in Britain, which is on high alert following three failed car bombings in London and Glasgow, Scotland, last month.

Eight suspects are being held in connection with those incidents.

Jurors at high-security Woolwich Crown Court, south-east London, have not yet reached verdicts on two other alleged July 21 plotters - Manfo Kwaku Asiedu, 34, and Adel Yahya, 24.

They will continue their deliberations and sentencing will take place after the remaining two verdicts are reached.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/10/1974163.htm

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skeptic Full Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 188	Re: Martyr Mouse - RIP Reply #208 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 11:09am freediver wrote on Jul 10^th, 2007 at 11:04am: If you want to keep things in perspective, you should not ignore history. that's true, if u look throughout history, all religions have had followers that have committed terrorist attacks in it's name.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41788 Gender:	Re: Martyr Mouse - RIP Reply #209 - Jul 10^th, 2007 at 11:24am skeptic - only one advocates terrorism and violence. only one "issues" fatwas, ie hits. Only one murders those that leave only one will not tolerate any other belief. Thats is the true perspective
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