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Re: hamas and fatah
Reply #105 - Jun 18^th, 2007 at 8:40pm

here is your daily report on "democracy" in islam, gavin and donald.

Latest Offerings from the Religion of Peace

6/17/07 ( Kabul, Afghanistan ) - Three dozen Afghans are blown to Allah by Islamic bombers in an attack on a transportation hub.
6/17/07 ( Baidoa, Somalia ) - A child is killed when Islamists toss a grenade into a bank.
6/17/07 ( Herat, Afghanistan ) - The Taliban attack a remote police post, killing two officers.
6/16/07 ( Narathiwat, Thailand ) - An 82-year-old man is shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
6/16/07 ( Narathiwat, Thailand ) - Muslims shoot a middle-aged civilian four times in the chest.

As long as it is a "democratic" party though, all is well.

Under islam, there is NO option BUT to be a muslim. All others get driven off or murdered
SUpporting any muslim party should show a growing list of the instances given above.

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skeptic Full Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 188	Re: hamas and fatah Reply #106 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 7:26am hi sprint, i just have one question - are u pro-democracy or anti-democracy?
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Reply #107 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 8:59am

Here is a closer ananlogy to the truth than the shallow ones gavin has given.

Suppose gavin lives in NSW, I am in QLD. We vote in a party whose "policy" is to run off or murder the NSW people from NSW. This is credible. We have been doing this for generations.
In gavins idea, NSW should accept the party, as it was elected.
In my idea, of course NSW should not recognise them. In addition neither should Victoria.
The party in QLD will not stop at NSW, they are extremists.

Skeptic - I have two questions for you.
Do you like to have your head on your shoulders ?
Are you your brothers keeper or not ?

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skeptic Full Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 188	Re: hamas and fatah Reply #108 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 9:05am sprint, so i take it by u not answering my question that ur anti-democracy.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41788 Gender:	Re: hamas and fatah Reply #109 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 10:34am skeptic I am prodemocracy. I am also pro MY freedom and keeping my head on my shoulders. Care to answer my questions ?
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Re: hamas and fatah
Reply #110 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 10:56am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 10:34am:

skeptic I am prodemocracy. I am also pro MY freedom and keeping my head on my shoulders.
Care to answer my questions ?

sprint, u can't pick and choose when it comes to democracy - what i mean by that is u can't be pro-democracy when a government u agree with is elected, but at the same time be anti-democracy when a government u don't agree with is elected.

u have to accept whoever the people choose.

what ur essentially suggesting is that democracy should only include political parties that agree with ur own views and should exclude parties that don't agree with you. that doesn't really sound like democracy at all.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41788 Gender:	Re: hamas and fatah Reply #111 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:01am skeptic - care to answer any of my questions ? What if that govt is going to murder me ???
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skeptic Full Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 188	Re: hamas and fatah Reply #112 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:02am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:01am: skeptic - care to answer any of my questions ? What if that govt is going to murder me ??? then u can defend yourself, but it's still a legitimate government nonetheless since it was democratically elected by it's people.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41788 Gender:	Re: hamas and fatah Reply #113 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:31am skeptic - you are STILL not answering any of my questions. At all.
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Re: hamas and fatah
Reply #114 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:52am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:31am:

skeptic - you are STILL not answering any of my questions.

At all.

ur questions are irrelevant to the topic were talking about.

it's a waste of time trying to explain this to you, this topic has gone on for 8 pages now and u still don't get it.

whether you like a government or not, who cares, they were still picked by their own people and are therefore a legitimate government.

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Reply #115 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 12:55pm

If their "policy" is control by force, murder and coersion then I am against them.
So will be every logical freedom loving person.

If they have a past history of this and they support terrorists and fire rockets at "neighbours" .
Then their "policies" are probably going to be carried through
Whether terrorists are voted in or not, the free world is against them.

Again you have refused my questions. This is after 8 pages.
Scared of saying something non PC or of ever seeing my point of view??

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Reply #116 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 1:21pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 12:55pm:

If their "policy" is control by force, murder and coersion then I am against them.
So will be every logical freedom loving person.

i'm not saying that u have to like them, i'm saying u can't deny their right to govern since they were democratically elected by their own people.

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If they have a past history of this and they support terrorists and fire rockets at "neighbours" .
Then their "policies" are probably going to be carried through
Whether terrorists are voted in or not, the free world is against them.

the free world is against them, so to show them how to be free u want to take away their right to elect their own government. do u see the irony here?

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Again you have refused my questions. This is after 8 pages.
Scared of saying something non PC or of ever seeing my point of view??

ur questions have nothing to do with whether Hamas are a legitimate government or not.
and i only came onto this topic on the last page.

do u realise that ur the only person on this topic that is refusing to accept that democracy is giving people the right to vote for their own government?

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Re: hamas and fatah
Reply #117 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 1:26pm

Here is a closer ananlogy to the truth than the shallow ones gavin has given.

Suppose gavin lives in NSW, I am in QLD. We vote in a party whose "policy" is to run off or murder the NSW people from NSW. This is credible. We have been doing this for generations.
In gavins idea, NSW should accept the party, as it was elected.
In my idea, of course NSW should not recognise them. In addition neither should Victoria.
The party in QLD will not stop at NSW, they are extremists.

Skeptic - I have two questions for you.
Do you like to have your head on your shoulders ?
Are you your brothers keeper or not ?

feel free to answer the above questions skeptic

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skeptic Full Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 188	Re: hamas and fatah Reply #118 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 1:32pm do u realise that ur the only person on this topic that is refusing to accept that democracy is giving people the right to vote for their own government?
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Re: hamas and fatah
Reply #119 - Jun 19^th, 2007 at 2:41pm

skeptic wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:02am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 19^th, 2007 at 11:01am:

skeptic - care to answer any of my questions ?
What if that govt is going to murder me ???

then u can defend yourself, but it's still a legitimate government nonetheless since it was democratically elected by it's people.

Ha! Not in this country mate..... Remember,Gun laws?

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