Ausnat wrote on Jun 1^st, 2007 at 5:25pm:


mate england is one of the most anti israel nations in the western world. australia and the usa are pro israel though as you say.

the topic of Israel and the arabs is my baby, i actuially know alot about it.

In 1948 england created Israel onlybecause they were leaving.  they actually  had been trying to slow jewish immigration over the decades preceding their withdrawel. The plan was that once they withdrew the overwhelming arab states surrounding the "state of israel" would engulf the new nation before it could get started.

unfortunatly the jews won the war in 1948, against all odds.

Their is specualtion that England had oil deals with the arabs, that is if england left palestine and allowed the arabs to take control they would recieve good deals.

it is no secret that engalnd has always resented Israels existance.

I love israelis.

i know.

but you think just like them. honestly, if you were born there you would fit right in.

Ausnat wrote on Jun 11^th, 2007 at 10:11pm:


How curious..I didnt know we fight for issues such as these in Australia in 2007.

why wouldnt you be pro Israeli, i dont understand why everyone despises them so.

They are a small nation surrounded by hostile enemies yet they continue to resist and even on occaision go on the offensive.

They do not want war with arab nations, anyone who has followed the history of Israel closely will know that they have never started any situation, they have always been reactionary.

Israeli people in general are more agnostic than jewish. It is a very strong "jewish" and now Israeli nationalism that binds them not their religion.

They are a strong nationalistic people who have had their backs to the wall for over 50 years, yet still fight on. How can you not admire that?

Israel has made so many attempts to achieve peace with the palestinians and arabs that it is no longer funny.

In 1948 after the UN drew up a map of Israel and Palestine as two seperate countries, all the surrounding arab nations immediatly invaded Israel with vast support from the Islamic palestinians. (Christian Palestinians have never fought against Israel, they have been great supporters of Israel).

Israel on the defensive won the war against  all odds and instead of continuing the war they made peace as soon as possible.

again in 1967 Egypt under Nasser blockaded Israels ports to the red sea leaving the country in a strangle hold and moved his army to the border of Israel to do "manouvers". He then signed a mutual defence pact with Syria and Jordan. Syria for a long time had been promising to get revenge on Israel for 1948.

Israel retaliated and the 6 day war began. Israel ofcourse won, taking vast swabs of land, including the entirety of Sinai, which is many time larger than Israel itself.

However it is important to note that they did not invade Jordan past the river Jordan even though they could have taken ove rthe entire country. Further more Israel reached damascus the capitol of Syria, yet instead of occupying, they relinquished the land except for the Golan heights, from where the syrians had been shelling Israeli farms.

in 1973 the arabs invaded again, this time on the jewish holiday of yom kipper, which is like christmas for us. The israelis were all on holiday and not ready and suffered many losses innitially, but as they got their act together they won once again against a superior force.

in a peace deal with Egyptian president sadat the Israelis gave back to egypt Sainai, and the two nations have been at peace still. it is inetresting to note that Sadat was murderd by his own poeple for making this peace deal, Golda Meir the prime minister of Israel was lauded as a hero by her own people for making peace.

Jordan also signed a peace agreement with Israel after the war, and the two nations have been at peace since.

Syria still refuses to speak to Israel.

Iraq i am not sure about now.


And if anyone wants to comment on their treatment of the palestiniains they really should read a
more, and in different places than they usually do, bias is rife.

How about this;

A christian priest being threatened by israeli tank.

Quote:


With the gun pointed in his direction?