Oh great.    Phoenix has found her onto this board. 


How are the beatings coming along since your conversion to Islam anyway?

And btw, as far as sources go phoneix, who's a more reliable source? The scientist studying the rat or the rat studying the rat?

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on May 3^rd, 2007 at 3:21pm:


so i take it u don't have a link?

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on May 3^rd, 2007 at 3:47pm:


In Islam, muslims are taught to critically analyse the Quran and the Sunnah (Prophet's teachings) - the reason being that muslims have to understand why we practise our faith. For us, blindly following Islam is the same as not following it at all.

By the way, the Islamic shiek i mentioned above (Yusuf Estes), was actually a Christian preacher and actually convert to Islam after researching it. So much for ur argument that he won't look at it objectively.

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In Islam, whenever there was a crime, there needed to be four witnesses to the crime (obviously with advances in technology, e.g. DNA, such eye-witness accounts aren't always necessary). 

However, the part about stoning the woman for adultery if there is no witnesses is not in the Quran, unfortunately this is one of the Pakistani cultural practices which people tend to mix in with religion.

freediver wrote on May 3^rd, 2007 at 4:04pm:


i'm pretty sure that link i provided above explains it, have a listen to it the guy since he explains it better than i could.

basically, in Islam, it is a husband's responsibility to provide for his family, a woman can work if she wants to and if she does any income she receives is her own income (which she does not have to share with her husband or children).

similiarily, when it comes to inheritance the inheritance a woman receives is her own money and she doesn't have to share it with her husband and/or children. however, when a male receives inheritance he needs to spend it on his wife and children as it is his responsibility to provide for them.

If you're a Muslim and you're making an opinion of the religion you're familiar with, you're bound to favour everything in a positive light, especially if you're brainwashed to believe it from an early age.

So, when judging Muslim people, you would go by a completely detached analysis of the koran, rather than by how the established religion interprets the koran? Do you think that Muslims have so little will power that they will be forced to do whater someone with limited familiarty with the koran thinks it says they should do rather than how they interpret it themselves?

Would you judge one Muslim by what another Muslim does?

Would you judge one Christian by what another Christian does?

Unjust to judge one christian on what another does.  Plenty of "bad" "christians" around.

Supposing a number of christians did something weird like break dogs rear left legs, claiming it was in the Bible. I may research that, to see if in fact it was in The Bible.
Then it might be fair to judge christianity on the basis of what a number of christians do and say, and what I have seem for myself in The Bible.

They could just be a bunch of whacko christians who deliberately misinterperet the Bible for their own perverse dogleg breaking desires.

Important part being, I would have to read it myself. I will not believe blindly what others tell me in important matters. I have to do my own research.