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Reply #675 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:58am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

Firstly, you should respect them. When you consider them as animals, you can not help them.

Then we need some professionals understand their languages. We should research their psychology and sociology. Like we teach our children, we need to find a way that they can accept and enjoy.

I do not believe Aboriginals really refuse a better life. The only problem is white people always appear with superiority. This superiority is the poison for any communication. And they do not trust you because of the slaughter and plunder in the history.

We will find a way if you really want to help them.

You really are a brainwashed lefty.

What did you do to help aboriginals yesterday?
What are you doing to help aboriginals today?
What plans do you have to help aboriginals tomorrow?

I am willing to bit you have done nothing and have no plans to actually do anything. I doubt you are going to go live in the outback teaching and helping aboriginals. Instead, you will sit on a computer in a city and say that the white people should do more and that you're not responsible for any of it. After all, you didn't kill them and take their land, only white people did that.

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Reply #676 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:03am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

Firstly, you should respect them. When you consider them as animals, you can not help them.

Firstly, I don't consider them animals. Secondly, I treat animals very well. Third, Group identity doesn't earn my respect - an individuals character does.

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Then we need some professionals understand their languages.

Their languiages are highly specific, mostly dead and useless in the modern world. WOFTAM.

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We should research their psychology and sociology. Like we teach our children, we need to find a way that they can accept and enjoy.

"we" don't need to do poo. Their destiny is theirs to make. They can either:

1.Adapt to the new reality and thrive.
2 Continue living on the scraps white man throws them, like a mangy dog.
3. die.

I'd prefer option 1, but it's not my choice to make.

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I do not believe Aboriginals really refuse a better life. The only problem is white people always appear with superiority.

Since this society was built by europeans, for europeans, it stands to reason that europeans will do better (ie superior) in it. What can ya do?

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This superiority is the poison for any communication. And they do not trust you because of the slaughter and plunder in the history.

And I don't trust them because they're often trashy, violent drunken thieving nice people. Once you know some, you'll learn. Things are a lot different when you see them as humans rather than museum exhibits.

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We will find a way if you really want to help them.

But I don't want to. I'm happy for them to help themselves, but again - not my responsibility. They are humans, not friggin pets.

« Last Edit: Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:08am by ... »

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Reply #677 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:54am:

Since you slaughtered them and plundered so big a land from them, yes, you have the responsibility to help them, no matter how long and the cost. You owe them.

Again, you're a racist. My family came here just like yours did. But mine are white so I have responsibility and you don't. My family assimilated into Australian culture so I have responsibility, but since you refuse to assimilate you can hide behind your Chinese heritage.

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Reply #678 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:21am

No, when I say you. I talk about the guys who said "We conquered...".

If you are not one of them, please do not use "we" with them.

It's not about races, but your standpoint.

Quantum wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:54am:

Since you slaughtered them and plundered so big a land from them, yes, you have the responsibility to help them, no matter how long and the cost. You owe them.

Again, you're a racist. My family came here just like yours did. But mine are white so I have responsibility and you don't. My family assimilated into Australian culture so I have responsibility, but since you refuse to assimilate you can hide behind your Chinese heritage.

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Reply #679 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:23am

When you said "we conquered...", you have the responsibility to help them. Or, go back to Europe and return everything you plundered in the "conquering" from them.

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:03am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

Firstly, you should respect them. When you consider them as animals, you can not help them.

Firstly, I don't consider them animals. Secondly, I treat animals very well. Third, Group identity doesn't earn my respect - an individuals character does.

Quote:

Then we need some professionals understand their languages.

Their languiages are highly specific, mostly dead and useless in the modern world. WOFTAM.

Quote:

We should research their psychology and sociology. Like we teach our children, we need to find a way that they can accept and enjoy.

"we" don't need to do poo. Their destiny is theirs to make. They can either:

1.Adapt to the new reality and thrive.
2 Continue living on the scraps white man throws them, like a mangy dog.
3. die.

I'd prefer option 1, but it's not my choice to make.

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I do not believe Aboriginals really refuse a better life. The only problem is white people always appear with superiority.

Since this society was built by europeans, for europeans, it stands to reason that europeans will do better (ie superior) in it. What can ya do?

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This superiority is the poison for any communication. And they do not trust you because of the slaughter and plunder in the history.

And I don't trust them because they're often trashy, violent drunken thieving nice people. Once you know some, you'll learn. Things are a lot different when you see them as humans rather than museum exhibits.

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We will find a way if you really want to help them.

But I don't want to. I'm happy for them to help themselves, but again - not my responsibility. They are humans, not friggin pets.

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Reply #680 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:28am

Look, I have no responsibility to do anything for them because I did not "conquered" them. However I will do something I could do as an Australian for justice.

If you do not think you are a part of the intruders who "conquered" them, you have the same responsibility as me.

However, if you believe "we conquered...", then you have the responsibility to help them without the limit of time and cost.

Quantum wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

Firstly, you should respect them. When you consider them as animals, you can not help them.

Then we need some professionals understand their languages. We should research their psychology and sociology. Like we teach our children, we need to find a way that they can accept and enjoy.

I do not believe Aboriginals really refuse a better life. The only problem is white people always appear with superiority. This superiority is the poison for any communication. And they do not trust you because of the slaughter and plunder in the history.

We will find a way if you really want to help them.

You really are a brainwashed lefty.

What did you do to help aboriginals yesterday?
What are you doing to help aboriginals today?
What plans do you have to help aboriginals tomorrow?

I am willing to bit you have done nothing and have no plans to actually do anything. I doubt you are going to go live in the outback teaching and helping aboriginals. Instead, you will sit on a computer in a city and say that the white people should do more and that you're not responsible for any of it. After all, you didn't kill them and take their land, only white people did that.

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Reply #681 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:29am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

When you said "we conquered...", you have the responsibility to help them. Or, go back to Europe and return everything you plundered in the "conquering" from them.

Sorry - the best I can do is ship all the people who ACTUALLY did these things back to Europe. Mind you, they've all been dead for 200 years, so I'm not sure what good it will do.

Do YOU get to stay?

In the fullness of time...

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Reply #682 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:32am

When you said "we conquered...", you are one of them.

If you do not talk "we" with the intruders and none of your properties are inherited from an intruders, you have the same responsibility as me.

It's your own choice.

Tell me, are you a "conqueror" or a normal immigrant like me?

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:29am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

When you said "we conquered...", you have the responsibility to help them. Or, go back to Europe and return everything you plundered in the "conquering" from them.

Sorry - the best I can do is ship all the people who ACTUALLY did these things back to Europe. Mind you, they've all been dead for 200 years, so I'm not sure what good it will do.

Do YOU get to stay?

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Reply #683 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:33am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:28am:

However, if you believe "we conquered...", then you have the responsibility to help them without the limit of time and cost.

What would you say happened to aborigines, other than they were conquered?

con·quer/ˈkäNGkər/Verb: 1.Overcome and take control of (a place or people) by use of military force.

I'd say that's precisely what happened - so you want to punish people for telling the truth? How does that help anyone?

In the fullness of time...

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Reply #684 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:34am

What you said "conquering" is slaughter and plunder.

Who gave you the rights to slaughter and plunder them in their home from half earth far?

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:33am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:28am:

However, if you believe "we conquered...", then you have the responsibility to help them without the limit of time and cost.

What would you say happened to aborigines, other than they were conquered?

con·quer/ˈkäNGkər/Verb: 1.Overcome and take control of (a place or people) by use of military force.

I'd say that's precisely what happened - so you want to punish people for telling the truth? How does that help anyone?

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Reply #685 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:39am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:32am:

When you said "we conquered...", you are one of them.

If you do not talk "we" with the intruders and none of your properties are inherited from an intruders, you have the same responsibility as me.

It's your own choice.

Tell me, are you a "conqueror" or a normal immigrant like me?

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:29am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

When you said "we conquered...", you have the responsibility to help them. Or, go back to Europe and return everything you plundered in the "conquering" from them.

Sorry - the best I can do is ship all the people who ACTUALLY did these things back to Europe. Mind you, they've all been dead for 200 years, so I'm not sure what good it will do.

Do YOU get to stay?

I've bought or earned everything I own. Conquered no race, plundered nothing. I don't owe anyone a penny.

In the fullness of time...

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Reply #686 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:40am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

What you said "conquering" is slaughter and plunder.

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:33am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:28am:

However, if you believe "we conquered...", then you have the responsibility to help them without the limit of time and cost.

What would you say happened to aborigines, other than they were conquered?

con·quer/ˈkäNGkər/Verb: 1.Overcome and take control of (a place or people) by use of military force.

I'd say that's precisely what happened - so you want to punish people for telling the truth? How does that help anyone?

So?

Huh

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Reply #687 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:40am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

When you said "we conquered...", you have the responsibility to help them. Or, go back to Europe and return everything you plundered in the "conquering" from them.

That would include your house. When are you going to get this point;

White man kills abo and takes his land.
White man builds on land.
White man keeps selling land from one white to another until chinaman comes and buys it.
Chinaman now owns land conquered from abo.

Do you not see the problem with your logic so far? For the white man to give it back to the abo, you will have to go back home as well. You have knowingly bought stolen property with the defense of "but I wasn't the one who stole it".

If you really cared about the aboriginals you would give your house to them and go back to China. After All, you claim to believe that the land you are living on belongs to them and was stolen. Anything else is just self righteous talk.

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Reply #688 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:42am

Then why you said "we conquered"? if you are not one of them?

Look, if you want to inherit their priority you have to inherit their responsibility.

If you do not inherit their responsibility, you have no any priority from them too.

Let me know your choice.

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:32am:

When you said "we conquered...", you are one of them.

If you do not talk "we" with the intruders and none of your properties are inherited from an intruders, you have the same responsibility as me.

It's your own choice.

Tell me, are you a "conqueror" or a normal immigrant like me?

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:29am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

When you said "we conquered...", you have the responsibility to help them. Or, go back to Europe and return everything you plundered in the "conquering" from them.

Sorry - the best I can do is ship all the people who ACTUALLY did these things back to Europe. Mind you, they've all been dead for 200 years, so I'm not sure what good it will do.

Do YOU get to stay?

I've bought or earned everything I own. Conquered no race, plundered nothing. I don't owe anyone a penny.

« Last Edit: Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:49am by Bowen »

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Reply #689 - Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:48am

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:42am:

Then why you said "we conquered"? if you are not one of them?

Look, if you want to inherit their priority you have to inherit their responsibility.

If you do not inherit their responsibility, you have no any priority from them too.

Let me know your choice.

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:32am:

When you said "we conquered...", you are one of them.

If you do not talk "we" with the intruders and none of your properties are inherited from an intruders, you have the same responsibility as me.

It's your own choice.

Tell me, are you a "conqueror" or a normal immigrant like me?

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:29am:

Bowen wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 11:23am:

When you said "we conquered...", you have the responsibility to help them. Or, go back to Europe and return everything you plundered in the "conquering" from them.

Sorry - the best I can do is ship all the people who ACTUALLY did these things back to Europe. Mind you, they've all been dead for 200 years, so I'm not sure what good it will do.

Do YOU get to stay?

I've bought or earned everything I own. Conquered no race, plundered nothing. I don't owe anyone a penny.

Look pal, Im 31 years old - all the plundering and conquering ended centuries before my birth. Abos have had more unearned privilege than me for my entire life.

Don't you have the concept of 'time' in China?

In the fullness of time...

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