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Question: Do you support multiculturalism?

Yes. Diversity leads to unity and enrichment.    
  53 (42.7%)
No. How can disunity lead to unity?    
  53 (42.7%)
Undecided.    
  8 (6.5%)
Other.    
  10 (8.1%)




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Reply #600 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 1:14am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:04pm:
I come here in peace. The land I have in Australia is bought from the open market. When I came here, I brought all I have. I did nothing bad to Aboriginals. Everything I enjoy here is based on equal trading. Right?

I can buy the property from white people or Aboriginals. It doesn't matter to me. It is not my fault. Actually, if there were no English intruders 200 years ago. I may buy a property from Aboriginals today in a lower price.


If there were no white men here the Aboriginals would have speared you through on first sight. Thay were not stupid enough after all. Oh and they would not have sold you land because the did not have a concept for owning or selling property. Thats another invention of the evil white man!
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Reply #601 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 1:17am
 
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Reply #602 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 1:20am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:05pm:
Tibet is a part of China. And the population of Tibetans grow 3 times in the past 60 years. It quite different from the case of Aboriginals in Australia. Most of the Aboriginals were killed. 

When Dalai Lama (who told you that Tibetans DO NOT want Han people) ruled Tibet, most of the Tibetans are slaves.

There are Han and Tibetans living in Tibet today. Tibetan and Han are both parts of Chinese.

Please do not garble the two different notions Han and Chinese.



Its only grown because tha Han rats are trying to outbreed them!
No its not part of China which is Why they are racialy, culturally and spiritually different and whay the country is called Tibet. You invaded in 1951!
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Reply #603 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 6:14am
 
Who told you to learn other culture is impossible? Everyone has own limitation. That why both you and me to learn other cultures.

Your conclusion is absurd that all the people from other culture should learn English culture and you do not need to learn other cultures. What you said is racism essentially.

I am not necessary to learn anything like you. I want to learn other culture because I want to make the society better. No one force you to learn anything. But if you don't learn, don't blame the separated society. Because you are the reason.

My opinion is simple. No matter what the native culture you have. No matter you or me. No one are forced to learn other culture. But we'd better learn some other culture if we want to avoid a separated society.

Don't you understand?


Quantum wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:29pm:
Now you're getting it. Only a week ago you were saying how we should all learn other cultures to avoid a "separated society". It was explained that this is not possible and therefore it is not for Australians to learn Chinese culture, but for the Chinese who come here to learn ours. That's because it would be impossible for Australians to learn Chinese culture, as well as Korean, Lebanese, Somalian, Indian culture etc. (Not to mention it is our country so we don't have to anyway)

The only culture you need to learn is Australian. Don't worry about the others until you have mastered this one.
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Reply #604 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 6:23am
 
In the 2000 years history, Tibet was part of China several times. The nearest is from 300 years ago. Tibet is a local government of China in Qing dynasty. Yes, they have different sub-culture, but there are at least 56 different sub-cultures in China. And Tibet is a name in English. No one call it Tibet in China.

The population growth shows the welfare of them. Relatively, the population of Aboriginals in Australia are decreased obviously when English "conquer" Australia. And all Aboriginals in Tasmania are genocidal. Don't you understand the huge difference?




mutation wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 1:20am:
Its only grown because tha Han rats are trying to outbreed them!
No its not part of China which is Why they are racialy, culturally and spiritually different and whay the country is called Tibet. You invaded in 1951!
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Reply #605 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 9:39am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 6:14am:
Who told you to learn other culture is impossible? Everyone has own limitation. That why both you and me to learn other cultures.

Your conclusion is absurd that all the people from other culture should learn English culture and you do not need to learn other cultures. What you said is racism essentially.

I am not necessary to learn anything like you. I want to learn other culture because I want to make the society better. No one force you to learn anything. But if you don't learn, don't blame the separated society. Because you are the reason.

My opinion is simple. No matter what the native culture you have. No matter you or me. No one are forced to learn other culture. But we'd better learn some other culture if we want to avoid a separated society.

Don't you understand?



I didn't say English culture I said Australian. Again, it is you who is being "absurd". One again you claim that no one should have to learn Australian culture, even if they want to live here. Yet again you claim that if Australians don't learn another culture it is their fault if there is a "separated society". Once again you are unable to understand the stupidity of this position.

1) If I learn Chinese culture it will not help me to understand my Korean neighbor. If he doesn't learn Australian culture then we are still in a "separated society". Myself learning one random culture out of the hundred coming here does not solve anything.

2) It is possible for the Indians coming here to learn Australian culture. It is possible for the Chinese coming here to learn Australian culture. It is possible for the Koreans coming here to learn Australian culture. It is possible for the Iranians coming here to learn Australian culture. It is not possible for the Australian to learn Indian, Chinese, Korean, Iranian etc culture. Each person coming here can learn Australian culture, that way we can all get along and avoid a "separated society". But as pointed out in point one, unless the Australian learns every culture there will still be separation under your plan.

3) The people living here were happy and got along before any other cultures got here. Why should we all now have to go out and learn another language to make it easier for you to come here? This itself seems to be a clash of culture right here. In Australia we do not impose ourselves onto other people. If we want something, we do not expect other people to inconvenience themselves to make it happen. Your whole argument has been that those living here should change their ways (and going out and learning other languages and cultures is exactly that) to make your integration better. In our culture we consider that attitude rude. Had you bothered to learn our culture you would know that.

I have no idea how to make this any clearer. In fact, this same argument has been going on for two weeks and you still don't get the point. This does not give me a lot of confidence if your knowledge of advance technologies when you can't even understand the simple logic of this issue.
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Reply #606 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:11am
 
Obviously you forget that English culture is not the first culture in Australia. Aboriginals living here were happy without English intruders too. Why English come here?

You are using obvious double standard.

What you defined Australian culture is wrong. Australia culture is not only English culture but also including Aboriginals culture, Chinese culture, Italian culture, Greeks culture, Japanese culture, Jews culture and many other cultures.


Quantum wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 9:39am:
I didn't say English culture I said Australian. Again, it is you who is being "absurd". One again you claim that no one should have to learn Australian culture, even if they want to live here. Yet again you claim that if Australians don't learn another culture it is their fault if there is a "separated society". Once again you are unable to understand the stupidity of this position.

1) If I learn Chinese culture it will not help me to understand my Korean neighbor. If he doesn't learn Australian culture then we are still in a "separated society". Myself learning one random culture out of the hundred coming here does not solve anything.

2) It is possible for the Indians coming here to learn Australian culture. It is possible for the Chinese coming here to learn Australian culture. It is possible for the Koreans coming here to learn Australian culture. It is possible for the Iranians coming here to learn Australian culture. It is not possible for the Australian to learn Indian, Chinese, Korean, Iranian etc culture. Each person coming here can learn Australian culture, that way we can all get along and avoid a "separated society". But as pointed out in point one, unless the Australian learns every culture there will still be separation under your plan.

3) The people living here were happy and got along before any other cultures got here. Why should we all now have to go out and learn another language to make it easier for you to come here? This itself seems to be a clash of culture right here. In Australia we do not impose ourselves onto other people. If we want something, we do not expect other people to inconvenience themselves to make it happen. Your whole argument has been that those living here should change their ways (and going out and learning other languages and cultures is exactly that) to make your integration better. In our culture we consider that attitude rude. Had you bothered to learn our culture you would know that.

I have no idea how to make this any clearer. In fact, this same argument has been going on for two weeks and you still don't get the point. This does not give me a lot of confidence if your knowledge of advance technologies when you can't even understand the simple logic of this issue.
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Reply #607 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:15am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:11am:
Obviously you forget that English culture is not the first culture in Australia. Aboriginals living here were happy without English intruders too. Why English come here?



Irrelevant.  All that matters is that they did come here.  It can't be undone.
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Reply #608 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:19am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:11am:
Obviously you forget that English culture is not the first culture in Australia. Aboriginals living here were happy without English intruders too. Why English come here?

You are using obvious double standard.

What you defined Australian culture is wrong. Australia culture is not only English culture but also including Aboriginals culture, Chinese culture, Italian culture, Greeks culture, Japanese culture, Jews culture and many other cultures.




And the broken record spins again.

You really should have tried to learn something about this country before you came here. Now that you are here, maybe you should try listening instead of telling Australians what their home country is like;

"What you defined Australian culture is wrong."

The smacking nerve. Seriously.

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Reply #609 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:22am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:11am:
Obviously you forget that English culture is not the first culture in Australia. Aboriginals living here were happy without English intruders too. Why English come here?

You are using obvious double standard.

What you defined Australian culture is wrong. Australia culture is not only English culture but also including Aboriginals culture, Chinese culture, Italian culture, Greeks culture, Japanese culture, Jews culture and many other cultures.





You've been asked this before, but what has Aboriginal culture given us except street and town names? As for the others, apart from some food, what have they given us?
(Except the Jews, they have given us Marxism and neo-Conservativism).
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Reply #610 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:47am
 
Yes, it can not be undone.

However, English people in Australia should accept other immigrants and other cultures like Aboriginals while the new immigrants with different cultures are coming in peace.

... wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:15am:
Irrelevant.  All that matters is that they did come here.  It can't be undone.
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Reply #611 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:48am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:47am:
Yes, it can not be undone.

However, English people in Australia should accept other immigrants and other cultures like Aboriginals while the new immigrants with different cultures are coming in peace.




Why should they?
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Reply #612 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:49am
 
If you kill all the Aboriginals, of course they can not give you anything more. Many Aboriginals are still living in their culture or partially living in their culture. It's the fact in Australia today.

So their culture is a part of Australia culture. How can you deny the fact?

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:22am:
You've been asked this before, but what has Aboriginal culture given us except street and town names? As for the others, apart from some food, what have they given us?
(Except the Jews, they have given us Marxism and neo-Conservativism).
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Reply #613 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:53am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:49am:
If you kill all the Aboriginals, of course they can not give you anything more. Many Aboriginals are still living in their culture or partially living in their culture. It's the fact in Australia today.

So their culture is a part of Australia culture. How can you deny the fact?




We didn't kill them all, there's still many around. Have you stop running over protesters with tanks yet? Killer!

Most Aboriginals live in Western culture, not Aboriginal culture. Some have gone back to their traditional ways, but Westerners want none of it. It has nothing to offer us.
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Reply #614 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 10:53am
 
Because Aboriginals accepted English culture as a part of Australia culture. Why English people do not accept other cultures?

It's obvious double standard. Don't you understand?

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Why should they?
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