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Question: Do you support multiculturalism?

Yes. Diversity leads to unity and enrichment.    
  53 (42.7%)
No. How can disunity lead to unity?    
  53 (42.7%)
Undecided.    
  8 (6.5%)
Other.    
  10 (8.1%)




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Reply #585 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:40pm
 
I partially agree with you. That's why I believe the political system is the good part of a culture not just political system.  Some parts of the culture are related to the political system. However, there are still many parts of culture are almost not related to the political system. And even a good political system is not really perfect. There are still some parts can be improved.

While I understand both the cultures and the political systems, I can analysis and find the good parts from different systems and cultures. That's my advantage.

BTW, imitation is not about Chinese culture. The medieval gun powder was imitation from China too. There were also imitation of porcelain in British hundreds years ago. When China produce better products than western countries, there won't be imitations in China anymore. The day is coming soon especially when western countries produce fewer and fewer products.

Soren wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:13pm:
The political system is based on the culture and civilisation. Which is based on how people see each other and relate to each other (customs, traditions, culture).

That's what you need to learn if you want to understand the political system because the political system is exclusively about how people relate to each other. Every third world country, including China, has always had crap political systems because of the dreadful way these people relate to each other, see each other, treat each other, imagine each other. They are all corrupt and exploit each other because that is their culture.

But you think the 'political system' is some isolated, unrelated thing, separate from the deepest cultural values. That's so Chinese - you want to copy without having a clue. Cheap Chinese imitation.



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Reply #586 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:49pm
 
But your disadvantage is that you do not understand the culture and therefore you do not even come close to understanding the the people as they understand and see themselves. You only see them through Chinese eyes. And they do not care about seeing themselves through Chinese eyes.


SO you only relate to them as an alien. And nobody is interested in how they look to an alien who lives with them but doesn't understand them.


Therefore you'll not understand either the culture or the people or the political system except as an outsider. And you can put that understanding in your pipe and smoke it or you can stick it up your jumper - nobody cares about it. It is irrelevant and a total bore.





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Reply #587 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:52pm
 
No one can understand everybody. Everybody has own limitation.

I will try my best to contribute to the society in my way. And I do not care if you care about me.

Soren wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:49pm:
But your disadvantage is that you do not understand the culture and therefore you do not even come close to understanding the the people as they understand and see themselves. You only see them through Chinese eyes. And they do not care about seeing themselves through Chinese eyes.


SO you only relate to them as an alien. And nobody is interested in how they look to an alien who lives with them but doesn't understand them.


Therefore you'll not understand either the culture or the people or the political system except as an outsider. You can put that in your pipe and smoke it or you can stick it up your jumper - nobody cares about it. It is irrelevant and a total bore.






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Reply #588 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 9:12pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:52pm:
No one can understand everybody. Everybody has own limitation.




What's your limitation in this discussion?

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Reply #589 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:38pm
 
I can not deeply understand all the cultures all over the world.

That's why we need to open our mind to learn more.

Soren wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 9:12pm:
What's your limitation in this discussion?


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Reply #590 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:10pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:38pm:
I can not deeply understand all the cultures all over the world.

That's why we need to open our mind to learn more.




I think you might be in the wrong forum.


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Reply #591 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:29pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:38pm:
I can not deeply understand all the cultures all over the world.

That's why we need to open our mind to learn more.



Now you're getting it. Only a week ago you were saying how we should all learn other cultures to avoid a "separated society". It was explained that this is not possible and therefore it is not for Australians to learn Chinese culture, but for the Chinese who come here to learn ours. That's because it would be impossible for Australians to learn Chinese culture, as well as Korean, Lebanese, Somalian, Indian culture etc. (Not to mention it is our country so we don't have to anyway)

The only culture you need to learn is Australian. Don't worry about the others until you have mastered this one.
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Reply #592 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:32pm
 
Quantum wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:29pm:
Now you're getting it. Only a week ago you were saying how we should all learn other cultures to avoid a "separated society". It was explained that this is not possible and therefore it is not for Australians to learn Chinese culture, but for the Chinese who come here to learn ours. That's because it would be impossible for Australians to learn Chinese culture, as well as Korean, Lebanese, Somalian, Indian culture etc. (Not to mention it is our country so we don't have to anyway)

The only culture you need to learn is Australian. Don't worry about the others until you have mastered this one.



Case in point.


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Reply #593 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:32pm:
Case in point.



Do you ever play the ball and not the player? Or do you only cry like a little pansy when someone does it to you?
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Reply #594 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:38pm
 
Quantum wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:36pm:
Do you ever play the ball and not the player? Or do you only cry like a little pansy when someone does it to you?



It's like a book that writes its self.




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Reply #595 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:40pm
 
Out for a late night troll ay? Good for you soldier. Keep wasting space on the forum, I am sure everyone is very impressed by your irrelevant posts.
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Reply #596 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:44pm
 
Quantum wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:40pm:
Out for a late night troll ay? Good for you soldier. Keep wasting space on the forum, I am sure everyone is very impressed by your irrelevant posts.



Late night?

Come on old man, it's only 9:43.

Anyway, the retards seem to be taking the bait so I might just keep dangling the line for a while yet.

Did you enjoy that last worm?


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Reply #597 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:44pm:
Late night?

Come on old man, it's only 9:43.

Anyway, the retards seem to be taking the bait so I might just keep dangling the line for a while yet.

Did you enjoy that last worm?


http://giraffopia.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/worm_on_hook_150w_200h.jpg


Tasted like 5hit. I assume you must have put it on the hook yourself then.
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Reply #598 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:49pm
 
Quantum wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:47pm:
Tasted like 5hit. I assume you must have put it on the hook yourself then.


With the help of God, apparently.

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Reply #599 - Nov 15th, 2012 at 1:09am
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:10pm:
Look, I have the same rights to come here as you. So you can not blame me only because I come here and I am different from you.

I have no problem to live with the people in your culture. The problem is you do not happy to live with the people in my culture. That's the problem.

You made the problem.



See thats the thing you dont have any right to be here other than what we as a sovereign nation grant you. Any more than a Japanese has to enter China uninvited and you know how fond the Chinese are of the Japanese.
Oh and dont think our rejection of you is simply because your Chinese (if you are) its because your an sphincter. I have any number of friends, relatives and a wife from other places but none of them are anything like you!
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