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Question: Do you support multiculturalism?

Yes. Diversity leads to unity and enrichment.    
  53 (42.7%)
No. How can disunity lead to unity?    
  53 (42.7%)
Undecided.    
  8 (6.5%)
Other.    
  10 (8.1%)




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Reply #570 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:28pm
 
As these words you said, there is no problem between you and me.

Big Dave wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:13pm:
That's cool. Chinese people are great for Australia and are more respected than you think. One thing that australians can learn from the Chinese is their work ethic and dedication to family. That's what I notice about the eastern asian people I know.
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Reply #571 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:40pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 4:58pm:
When I asked you to learn some secondary language, I am learning English. It's the right way for a healthy society.


You are learning English because you are in a English speaking country (however, that is something you are trying to change). I already know two other languages besides English. But I am sure that surprises you. After all, I am just racist white Australian who knows nothing of the world right?

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Racists like you attempt to oppress the people from different cultures and now you blame me make the "race card"? 

There are many racism topics before I join this forum. Can you deny?


And none of those topics where started by me. But I guess all us whites are alike. If one white starts a racist topic, its the fault of all whites right? Just like if some white bloke 200+ years ago killed an abo or two, all whites, even those who have only immigrated to Australia in the last 100 years, are somehow at fault as well.

You are another one of these "I have rights" pussys who likes to make racist remarks towards whites because you are a part of a minority group, and when people respond you play the race card and hide behind that minority group shield. You have done nothing but complain about white culture and past actions, and have not stopped singing about the wonders of the Chinese.

I am sure I have more non white friends than you have non Chinese friends, but I am also sure I will still be labeled the racist while you live in your little Chinese ghetto.
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Reply #572 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:51pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:10pm:
Look, I have the same rights to come here as you. So you can not blame me only because I come here and I am different from you.

I have no problem to live with the people in your culture. The problem is you do not happy to live with the people in my culture. That's the problem.


You seem to want it both ways; Evil whites took this country from aboriginals. Bad bad white man. But, since you have done it, I can also come here. Yes you bad white men should never have done it and you should forever say sorry and be ashamed of yourselves. But I will still come here and enjoy what you have built on aboriginal blood and bones and in no way share your guilt.

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You made the problem.


If you mean by letting you come here in the first place... Then yes. I am sure many regret that decision though. Had they known you were going to come in and tell us how to live our lives and run our own country they would never have been so welcoming.
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Reply #573 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:57pm
 
I appreciate that you know two other languages besides English. BTW, I learnt English far more earlier than I decided to move to Australia.

You disagree multiculturalism in this topic, right?

I was not against anyone before some guys deny my equal rights to move to and live in Australia.

Quantum wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:40pm:
You are learning English because you are in a English speaking country (however, that is something you are trying to change). I already know two other languages besides English. But I am sure that surprises you. After all, I am just racist white Australian who knows nothing of the world right?


And none of those topics where started by me. But I guess all us whites are alike. If one white starts a racist topic, its the fault of all whites right? Just like if some white bloke 200+ years ago killed an abo or two, all whites, even those who have only immigrated to Australia in the last 100 years, are somehow at fault as well.

You are another one of these "I have rights" pussys who likes to make racist remarks towards whites because you are a part of a minority group, and when people respond you play the race card and hide behind that minority group shield. You have done nothing but complain about white culture and past actions, and have not stopped singing about the wonders of the Chinese.

I am sure I have more non white friends than you have non Chinese friends, but I am also sure I will still be labeled the racist while you live in your little Chinese ghetto.

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Reply #574 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:00pm
 
Quantum wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:51pm:
You seem to want it both ways; Evil whites took this country from aboriginals. Bad bad white man. But, since you have done it, I can also come here. Yes you bad white men should never have done it and you should forever say sorry and be ashamed of yourselves. But I will still come here and enjoy what you have built on aboriginal blood and bones and in no way share your guilt.


If you mean by letting you come here in the first place... Then yes. I am sure many regret that decision though. Had they known you were going to come in and tell us how to live our lives and run our own country they would never have been so welcoming.



Yes. I was going to write something like that but you've done it for me.
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Reply #575 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:04pm
 
I come here in peace. The land I have in Australia is bought from the open market. When I came here, I brought all I have. I did nothing bad to Aboriginals. Everything I enjoy here is based on equal trading. Right?

I can buy the property from white people or Aboriginals. It doesn't matter to me. It is not my fault. Actually, if there were no English intruders 200 years ago. I may buy a property from Aboriginals today in a lower price.

Quantum wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:51pm:
You seem to want it both ways; Evil whites took this country from aboriginals. Bad bad white man. But, since you have done it, I can also come here. Yes you bad white men should never have done it and you should forever say sorry and be ashamed of yourselves. But I will still come here and enjoy what you have built on aboriginal blood and bones and in no way share your guilt.


If you mean by letting you come here in the first place... Then yes. I am sure many regret that decision though. Had they known you were going to come in and tell us how to live our lives and run our own country they would never have been so welcoming.

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Reply #576 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:22pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:04pm:
I come here in peace. The land I have in Australia is bought from the open market. When I came here, I brought all I have. I did nothing bad to Aboriginals. Everything I enjoy here is based on equal trading. Right?

I can buy the property from white people or Aboriginals. It doesn't matter to me. It is not my fault. Actually, if there were no English intruders 200 years ago. I may buy a property from Aboriginals today in a lower price.



Chinese humor? Or total smacking ignorance on a level that not even Spot could achieve?
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Reply #577 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:49pm
 
Who knows what will happen if there were no English intruders? My meaning is, while my property is bought from an open market and I came here in peace, I have no responsibility for the blood history. If there is no English, I can buy the property from others.

The point is, I bought the property in peace with an equal price. It's absolutely different from the intruders.

Quantum wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:22pm:
Chinese humor? Or total smacking ignorance on a level that not even Spot could achieve?
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Reply #578 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:56pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:49pm:
Who knows what will happen if there were no English intruders?



40,000 years sets a fairly predictable trend.
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Reply #579 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:11pm
 
Not only English, Chinese may got to Australia in 19th century in peace.

Chinese won't conquer Australia but might buy some part of Australia. Who knows?

There was no big difference of the development levels of Aboriginals between Indonesia and Australia before Chinese and Malays got to Indonesia several hundreds years ago.

Quantum wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:56pm:
40,000 years sets a fairly predictable trend.
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Reply #580 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:43pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:11pm:
Not only English, Chinese may got to Australia in 19th century in peace.

Chinese won't conquer Australia but might buy some part of Australia. Who knows?


There was no big difference of the development levels of Aboriginals between Indonesia and Australia before Chinese and Malays got to Indonesia several hundreds years ago.



So you were not joking but really are ignorant.

Firstly, your attitudes that the Chinese would never conquer but only the whites do is ridiculous and more proof of your racist attitude. Phillip certainly tried to form relationships with the locals, and gave them a lot of freedom. You have bought the white English came with guns firing myth without question. You are also kidding yourself in suggesting that the Chinese would be nothing but warm and pleasant to the natives. The Chinese have brought the tanks out on their own people in recent times, but you want us to believe they would show no force in taking this nation? And if the aboriginals told them to go home they would have just complied?

Secondly, the idea that the Chinese would buy land off the aboriginals is just funny. Buy it with what? Do you have any idea how primitive this nation was before the English got here? Do you not get that the aboriginals would not be anymore accepting of the Chinese than the English? You also seem to be forgetting about another little nation... The French! Do you think Australia was going to sit here for 200 hundred years until the Chinese decided to make an offer?

FFS, learn something about this nation that you supposedly call home.
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Reply #581 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:49pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:11pm:

Not only English, Chinese may got to Australia in 19th century in peace.

Chinese won't conquer Australia but might buy some part of Australia. Who knows?

There was no big difference of the development levels of Aboriginals between Indonesia and Australia before Chinese and Malays got to Indonesia several hundreds years ago.




Bowen,

Why are the Chinese in Tibet, when the Tibetans clearly DO NOT want teh Chinese people, and, the Chinese army there ?

Is Tibet an integral part of China proper ???

Is that what Chinese people think ?


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Reply #582 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:57pm
 
You are right. The government of China always oppress the Chinese people in the history. However, there is never an official plan for the government of China to conquer an oversea territory. The government of China never attempt to conquer Malaysia or Indonesia when they have the ability. Because the bad political tradition, there are always internal problems for the government to solve.

To build the public service system is not a big problem. Not only English can do that. Chinese built huge city with more than 1 million population more than 1000 years ago. They can build everything on wilderness.

Actually, the only thing I believe English better is the political system. That's what I want to learn from English.

Quantum wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:43pm:
So you were not joking but really are ignorant.

Firstly, your attitudes that the Chinese would never conquer but only the whites do is ridiculous and more proof of your racist attitude. Phillip certainly tried to form relationships with the locals, and gave them a lot of freedom. You have bought the white English came with guns firing myth without question. You are also kidding yourself in suggesting that the Chinese would be nothing but warm and pleasant to the natives. The Chinese have brought the tanks out on their own people in recent times, but you want us to believe they would show no force in taking this nation? And if the aboriginals told them to go home they would have just complied?

Secondly, the idea that the Chinese would buy land off the aboriginals is just funny. Buy it with what? Do you have any idea how primitive this nation was before the English got here? Do you not get that the aboriginals would not be anymore accepting of the Chinese than the English? You also seem to be forgetting about another little nation... The French! Do you think Australia was going to sit here for 200 hundred years until the Chinese decided to make an offer?

FFS, learn something about this nation that you supposedly call home.
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Reply #583 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:05pm
 
Tibet is a part of China. And the population of Tibetans grow 3 times in the past 60 years. It quite different from the case of Aboriginals in Australia. Most of the Aboriginals were killed. 

When Dalai Lama (who told you that Tibetans DO NOT want Han people) ruled Tibet, most of the Tibetans are slaves.

There are Han and Tibetans living in Tibet today. Tibetan and Han are both parts of Chinese.

Please do not garble the two different notions Han and Chinese.


Yadda wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:49pm:
Bowen,

Why are the Chinese in Tibet, when the Tibetans clearly DO NOT want teh Chinese people, and, the Chinese army there ?

Is Tibet an integral part of China proper ???

Is that what Chinese people think ?


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Reply #584 - Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:13pm
 
Bowen wrote on Nov 13th, 2012 at 9:57pm:
Actually, the only thing I believe English better is the political system. That's what I want to learn from English.




The political system is based on the culture and civilisation. Which is based on how people see each other and relate to each other (customs, traditions, culture).

That's what you need to learn if you want to understand the political system because the political system is exclusively about how people relate to each other. Every third world country, including China, has always had crap political systems because of the dreadful way these people relate to each other, see each other, treat each other, imagine each other. They are all corrupt and exploit each other because that is their culture.

But you think the 'political system' is some isolated, unrelated thing, separate from the deepest cultural values. That's so Chinese - you want to copy without having a clue. Cheap Chinese imitation.



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