Australian Politics Forum - Do you support multiculturalism? If so, why?

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Reply #480 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:39pm

Look at what you said. I believe my understanding of universal value is far more deeper than you. Even for western culture, what you keep is the bad parts obviously.

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:48pm:

As I said - you do not understand the difference between being an Australian and being an Australian passport holder.

Coming from a third world, alien culture, you think being in the 'in' crowd is about a piece of paper (passport).
But if you were really of the 'in' crowd you'd know that it's not about the passport.

But you don't get any of this. You think like the Beijing Communist Party office. You think correct stamp. You don't understand how to relate to the person next to you.
Instead, you want your permit to be recognised.

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Reply #481 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:58pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:39pm:

Look at what you said. I believe my understanding of universal value is far more deeper than you. Even for western culture, what you keep is the bad parts obviously.

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:48pm:

As I said - you do not understand the difference between being an Australian and being an Australian passport holder.

Coming from a third world, alien culture, you think being in the 'in' crowd is about a piece of paper (passport).
But if you were really of the 'in' crowd you'd know that it's not about the passport.

But you don't get any of this. You think like the Beijing Communist Party office. You think correct stamp. You don't understand how to relate to the person next to you.
Instead, you want your permit to be recognised.

Universal value is a Western concept.

China has been isolationist and inward looking until 5 minutes ago.

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Quantum Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3373	Re: Do you support multiculturalism? If so, why? Reply #482 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 11:01pm Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:39pm: Look at what you said. I believe my understanding of universal value is far more deeper than you. Even for western culture, what you keep is the bad parts obviously. Don't like Western culture... don't come to a Western nation.
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Reply #483 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 5:53am

I like the good part of western culture, but what you show is the bad part of western culture.

Quantum wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 11:01pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:39pm:

Look at what you said. I believe my understanding of universal value is far more deeper than you. Even for western culture, what you keep is the bad parts obviously.

Don't like Western culture... don't come to a Western nation.

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Reply #484 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 5:58am

Yes, Universal value is from the good part of western culture. I accept it and respect it.

But the problem is you do not respect it. You believe only western people have human rights. That is the main problem.

You never understand what is and what's the importance of Freedom of Religions.

You are a western people, but you do not respect the good part of western culture. That's your problem.

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:58pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:39pm:

Look at what you said. I believe my understanding of universal value is far more deeper than you. Even for western culture, what you keep is the bad parts obviously.

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:48pm:

As I said - you do not understand the difference between being an Australian and being an Australian passport holder.

Coming from a third world, alien culture, you think being in the 'in' crowd is about a piece of paper (passport).
But if you were really of the 'in' crowd you'd know that it's not about the passport.

But you don't get any of this. You think like the Beijing Communist Party office. You think correct stamp. You don't understand how to relate to the person next to you.
Instead, you want your permit to be recognised.

Universal value is a Western concept.

China has been isolationist and inward looking until 5 minutes ago.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Do you support multiculturalism? If so, why? Reply #485 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:00pm You can't have the right without the obligation.
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Bowen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 703 Gender:	Re: Do you support multiculturalism? If so, why? Reply #486 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:04pm My obligation is defined by the pledge and the law. And I regard my obligation. But you have no rights to define any additional obligation for me, do you? Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:00pm: You can't have the right without the obligation.
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Reply #487 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:17pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:04pm:

My obligation is defined by the pledge and the law. And I regard my obligation.

You have no rights to define any additional obligation for me.

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

You can't have the right without the obligation.

There's your mistake.

Australians will not accept you as one of them simply because you have an Australian passport and you have made a pledge prescribed by the government.
The Chinese emperor/communist party may own the people but that is not the case in the West. Australianness is not owned by the government, much less the passport office.

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Reply #488 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:34pm

You always forget that you are not the representative of Australian.

Did you read the pledge? The pledge is not to the government but Australia country.

I never believe I should pledge to a government. The government is only the deputy of Australian. The government stand for Australia to make a deal with me that I pledge to Australia country under the law and I become a member of Australia.

And Australia country not only includes you but Aboriginals, German Australian, Greek Australian, Italian Australian, Chinese Australian, Indian Australian, Muslem Australian and many other Australian.

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:17pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:04pm:

My obligation is defined by the pledge and the law. And I regard my obligation.

You have no rights to define any additional obligation for me.

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

You can't have the right without the obligation.

There's your mistake.

Australians will not accept you as one of them simply because you have an Australian passport and you have made a pledge prescribed by the government.
The Chinese emperor/communist party may own the people but that is not the case in the West. Australianness is not owned by the government, much less the passport office.

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Reply #489 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:44pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

You always forget that you are not the representative of Australian.

Did you read the pledge? The pledge is not to the government but Australia country.

I never believe I should pledge to a government. The government is only the deputy of Australian. The government stand for Australia to make a deal with me that I pledge to Australia country under the law and I become a member of Australia.

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:17pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:04pm:

My obligation is defined by the pledge and the law. And I regard my obligation.

You have no rights to define any additional obligation for me.

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

You can't have the right without the obligation.

There's your mistake.

Australians will not accept you as one of them simply because you have an Australian passport and you have made a pledge prescribed by the government.
The Chinese emperor/communist party may own the people but that is not the case in the West. Australianness is not owned by the government, much less the passport office.

Exactly. You made a deal with the government who gave you a passport.
You didn't make a deal with the people who will not treat your Australian passport as being the same as being an Australian.

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Reply #490 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:55pm

You have your own rights to think anything, but you are not the representative of Australian.

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:44pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:34pm:

You always forget that you are not the representative of Australian.

Did you read the pledge? The pledge is not to the government but Australia country.

I never believe I should pledge to a government. The government is only the deputy of Australian. The government stand for Australia to make a deal with me that I pledge to Australia country under the law and I become a member of Australia.

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:17pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:04pm:

My obligation is defined by the pledge and the law. And I regard my obligation.

You have no rights to define any additional obligation for me.

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

You can't have the right without the obligation.

There's your mistake.

Australians will not accept you as one of them simply because you have an Australian passport and you have made a pledge prescribed by the government.
The Chinese emperor/communist party may own the people but that is not the case in the West. Australianness is not owned by the government, much less the passport office.

Exactly. You made a deal with the government who gave you a passport.
You didn't make a deal with the people who will not treat your Australian passport as being the same as being an Australian.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Do you support multiculturalism? If so, why? Reply #491 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 9:00pm That's what I am saying. You have individual rights but no group rights. You can be respected as an individual but not as a Chinaman.
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Reply #492 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 9:00pm

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:06pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:04pm:

"In your time' would have been back in the 60s - 70s at most. A different world.

maybe, maybe not, nevertheless ... it's enough to give me an idea ....

That settles it, then, doesn't it?? You've had an idea.

Indistinguishable from having no idea, but perhaps not. We will never know.

But at least you have had an idea and for that we should all be grateful for.

like I said maybe, maybe not ... still, it was enough to prove you wrong . Look, you can agree with my idea, you can disagree with it ... either way I don't care ... what you cannot do is tell someone you know nothing about, what they do or do not know .... all you are doing is proving what little you know.

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Reply #493 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 9:02pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 9:00pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:06pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:04pm:

"In your time' would have been back in the 60s - 70s at most. A different world.

maybe, maybe not, nevertheless ... it's enough to give me an idea ....

That settles it, then, doesn't it?? You've had an idea.

Indistinguishable from having no idea, but perhaps not. We will never know.

But at least you have had an idea and for that we should all be grateful for.

like I said maybe, maybe not ... still, it was enough to prove you wrong . Look, you can agree with my idea, you can disagree with it ... either way I don't care ... what you cannot do is tell someone you know nothing about, what they do or do not know .... all you are doing is proving what little you know.

Well, that clears it up then, doesn't it?

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Reply #494 - Nov 4^th, 2012 at 9:08pm

What's the difference between individual rights and group rights?

Actually, I don't know what's group rights. Can you explain clearly?

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 9:00pm:

That's what I am saying. You have individual rights but no group rights.
You can be respected as an individual but not as a Chinaman.

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