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Reply #465 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:38pm

Big Dave wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:29pm:

What I can tell you is Chinese is not a pure nation but mixed by different nations. Myself have at least two ancestries of two different nations. In the past 3000 years, many nations mixed to Chinese with their own culture. You can find the marks of different cultures in Chinese culture. So learning good parts from other culture never be a problem for me.

Big Dave wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:21pm:

I like multiculturalism to a degree. I believe we should maintain a large white majority though. I believe Australia is divided on religious and ethnic grounds and without the white majority we'll have states based on ethnicity and religion pop up inside our country. I understand how white Australians don't like it too. After all if China had a huge influx of Anglos I'm sure there would be riots. You would have to say that white Australians would be the most tolerant people on earth.

I'm not knocking China. I like their progressiveness and I believe Chinese people greatly benefit Australia. I notice many young Chinese people become very Australian and try their utmost to fit in. But China does have multiculturalism like Australia. In China everybody is Asian. Australia has all races.

Doesn't have. Sorry.

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Reply #466 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:45pm

Actually, there are many western people in China today and keeping their own culture. Most of Chinese do not think it's a problem.

I ask for respecting my own culture but at the same time, I try to learn the good part of western culture too. Every culture have its advantage and disadvantage. Force people to abandon their own culture in total is not the right way.

I believe to learn each others is the right way.

Big Dave wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:29pm:

What I can tell you is Chinese is not a pure nation but mixed by different nations. Myself have at least two ancestries of two different nations. In the past 3000 years, many nations mixed to Chinese with their own culture. You can find the marks of different cultures in Chinese culture. So learning good parts from other culture never be a problem for me.

Big Dave wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:21pm:

I like multiculturalism to a degree. I believe we should maintain a large white majority though. I believe Australia is divided on religious and ethnic grounds and without the white majority we'll have states based on ethnicity and religion pop up inside our country. I understand how white Australians don't like it too. After all if China had a huge influx of Anglos I'm sure there would be riots. You would have to say that white Australians would be the most tolerant people on earth.

I'm not knocking China. I like their progressiveness and I believe Chinese people greatly benefit Australia. I notice many young Chinese people become very Australian and try their utmost to fit in. But China does have multiculturalism like Australia. In China everybody is Asian. Australia has all races.

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Reply #467 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:54pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:45pm:

Actually, there are many western people in China today and keeping their own culture. Most of Chinese do not think it's a problem.

I ask for respecting my own culture but at the same time, I try to learn the good part of western culture too. Every culture have its advantage and disadvantage. Force people to abandon their own culture in total is not the right way.

I believe to learn each others is the right way.

Big Dave wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:29pm:

What I can tell you is Chinese is not a pure nation but mixed by different nations. Myself have at least two ancestries of two different nations. In the past 3000 years, many nations mixed to Chinese with their own culture. You can find the marks of different cultures in Chinese culture. So learning good parts from other culture never be a problem for me.

Big Dave wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:21pm:

I like multiculturalism to a degree. I believe we should maintain a large white majority though. I believe Australia is divided on religious and ethnic grounds and without the white majority we'll have states based on ethnicity and religion pop up inside our country. I understand how white Australians don't like it too. After all if China had a huge influx of Anglos I'm sure there would be riots. You would have to say that white Australians would be the most tolerant people on earth.

I'm not knocking China. I like their progressiveness and I believe Chinese people greatly benefit Australia. I notice many young Chinese people become very Australian and try their utmost to fit in. But China does have multiculturalism like Australia. In China everybody is Asian. Australia has all races.

Yeah, but still China doesn't have true multi racial immigration program like Australia does. Westerners in China would be a minute amount of people. Asian people in Australia is about 10%. In China westerners would be in the thousands of a percent. I doubt China would accept high percentages of other races even if they had the room. The only countries that have true multiculturalism are the white nations.

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Reply #468 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 3:03pm

China has it's own problem. I believe even open for immigrants, you won't immigrate to China recently. The problems of China society is quite different from Australia.

I don't know what will happen if there are 10% western people in China. However, personally, I will be happy with that because I hope western people bring more political culture to China. And I believe the main problem of Chinese culture is the political culture. I will be happy to help to spread the better political culture in China.

BTW, about multiculture, I think there is no multiculture in China because Chinese always mixed different cultures together instead of keeping their own pure culture. So there won't be separated multiculture but a mixed culture based on multiple cultures.

Big Dave wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 2:54pm:

[quote author=232E36242F410 link=1178038424/466#466 date=1351917955]Actually, there are many western people in China today and keeping their own culture. Most of Chinese do not think it's a problem.

I ask for respecting my own culture but at the same time, I try to learn the good part of western culture too. Every culture have its advantage and disadvantage. Force people to abandon their own culture in total is not the right way.

I believe to learn each others is the right way.

[quote author=476C625A41647360050 link=1178038424/464#464 date=1351917420]
Yeah, but still China doesn't have true multi racial immigration program like Australia does. Westerners in China would be a minute amount of people. Asian people in Australia is about 10%. In China westerners would be in the thousands of a percent. I doubt China would accept high percentages of other races even if they had the room. The only countries that have true multiculturalism are the white nations.

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Reply #469 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 3:08pm

I hope the Chinese people get their freedom. There's a lot of things about the west that I don't like either. I see Australians as increasing becoming more greedy and materialistic. People are looking down on other people because of where they live and what clothes they wear. Maybe China and the west and learn from one another.

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Reply #470 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:36pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 1:23pm:

I told you many times, I'm Australian too. I'm proud of it too. But it doesn't matter to my own culture. Because my culture became a part of Australia culture when I became an Australian.

Being an Australian and being an Australian passport holder are not the same thing.

You are not an Australian until you understand and live that difference.

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Reply #471 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:33pm

You are making the separated society.

How can you judge who is an Australian?

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:36pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 1:23pm:

I told you many times, I'm Australian too. I'm proud of it too. But it doesn't matter to my own culture. Because my culture became a part of Australia culture when I became an Australian.

Being an Australian and being an Australian passport holder are not the same thing.

You are not an Australian until you understand and live that difference.

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Reply #472 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:43pm

To be honest, many Chinese has the same problem. It seems the problem happen all over the world. Sad

Actually, the problem is that most of the people in the world expect to consume more than they can produce. That's why western countries facing the economic problems and why most of the wealth of China belongs to the families of a few high level officers.

From my view, the only way to solve the problem is a new revolution of technologies. I hope I can do something for it.

Big Dave wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 3:08pm:

I hope the Chinese people get their freedom. There's a lot of things about the west that I don't like either. I see Australians as increasing becoming more greedy and materialistic. People are looking down on other people because of where they live and what clothes they wear. Maybe China and the west and learn from one another.

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Reply #473 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:48pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:33pm:

You are making the separated society.

How can you judge who is an Australian?

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 8:36pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 1:23pm:

I told you many times, I'm Australian too. I'm proud of it too. But it doesn't matter to my own culture. Because my culture became a part of Australia culture when I became an Australian.

Being an Australian and being an Australian passport holder are not the same thing.

You are not an Australian until you understand and live that difference.

As I said - you do not understand the difference between being an Australian and being an Australian passport holder.

Coming from a third world, alien culture, you think being in the 'in' crowd is about a piece of paper (passport).
But if you were really of the 'in' crowd you'd know that it's not about the passport.

But you don't get any of this. You think like the Beijing Communist Party office. You think correct stamp. You don't understand how to relate to the person next to you.
Instead, you want your permit to be recognised.

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Reply #474 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:54pm

First generation migrants always find it difficult to assimilate into a new culture ... you would too if you moved to a different culture. ... by the time you get to 2nd generation migrants, you find that most assimilate quite well, and by that time their parents have stopped trying to hang onto what they left behind ... without multiculturalism, we wouldn't be half the country we are .. (and I'm not talking about population)

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Reply #475 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:58pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:54pm:

First generation migrants always find it difficult to assimilate into a new culture ... you would too if you moved to a different culture. ... by the time you get to 2nd generation migrants, you find that most assimilate quite well, and by that time their parents have stopped trying to hang onto what they left behind ... without multiculturalism, we wouldn't be half the country we are .. (and I'm not talking about population)

A very silly assertion.

You have no idea what Australia would be like without multiculturalism.

You might guess that it would be like, say, Finland or Portugal or Japan - but then again you have not the faintest idea of what such countries, without multiculturalism, are like.

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Reply #476 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:01pm

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:54pm:

First generation migrants always find it difficult to assimilate into a new culture ... you would too if you moved to a different culture. ... by the time you get to 2nd generation migrants, you find that most assimilate quite well, and by that time their parents have stopped trying to hang onto what they left behind ... without multiculturalism, we wouldn't be half the country we are .. (and I'm not talking about population)

A very silly assertion.

You have no idea what Australia would be like without multiculturalism.

You might guess that it would be like, say, Finland or Portugal or Japan - but then again you have not the faintest idea of what such countries, without multiculturalism, are like.

actually I do ... I've visited a few in my time ... maybe you could comment on something you may have an idea about ....

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Do you support multiculturalism? If so, why? Reply #478 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:06pm Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:04pm: "In your time' would have been back in the 60s - 70s at most. A different world. maybe, maybe not, nevertheless ... it's enough to give me an idea ....
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Reply #479 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:21pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:06pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:04pm:

"In your time' would have been back in the 60s - 70s at most. A different world.

maybe, maybe not, nevertheless ... it's enough to give me an idea ....

That settles it, then, doesn't it?? You've had an idea.

Indistinguishable from having no idea, but perhaps not. We will never know.

But at least you have had an idea and for that we should all be grateful for.

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