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Reply #421 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:12pm

Nuclear weapons are very easy to destroy an area if you do not concern anybody in that area. Your idea is leading to destroy of the earth.

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Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 11:53am:

And segregation in 21st century will only lead to destroy. When people do not believe understanding of each others is necessary. They won't hesitate to kill all others who is different from them. When both side have nuclear weapons. The only result is destroy each others.

I don't think you understand what COMPLETE segregation means. Hard to kill someone if you have no contact with them whatsoever.

There is a place for everyone on this earth, but that doesn't mean every place should be open to every person.

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Reply #422 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:13pm

I'm sorry if you are not an Anglo-Saxon. What's your race or nation then?

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Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 11:53am:

Can you tell me which part of your culture is from Anglo and which part if from Saxon? Is that true that all your culture is from Anglo or all you culture is from Saxon?

Who said I was anglo saxon? Terribly racialist of you to assume that.

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Reply #423 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:18pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Nuclear weapons are very easy to destroy an area if you do not concern anybody in that area. Your idea is leading to destroy of the earth.

... wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:06pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 11:53am:

And segregation in 21st century will only lead to destroy. When people do not believe understanding of each others is necessary. They won't hesitate to kill all others who is different from them. When both side have nuclear weapons. The only result is destroy each others.

I don't think you understand what COMPLETE segregation means. Hard to kill someone if you have no contact with them whatsoever.

There is a place for everyone on this earth, but that doesn't mean every place should be open to every person.

Hard to hate someone enough to nuke em if you have no contact with them. Live and let live.

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Reply #424 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:22pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 11:23am:

That's because your forefather killed so many people and plunder so many land in about 300 years. However, it's only a short period in the history.

And the world won't be always like this. Even the government of US and Australia know that. Only you do not know the world is changing.

The only way for human being is merge together. Otherwise there will be more war and blood. And the nuclear weapons make the world more dangerous. If different main countries fight each others again all of us will die.

Join together is the only way. So stop you dream and join me to build a better world. OK?

Stop my dreaming? I am living in reality. The real world today. All this talk about merging together is the dream.

Surely you can see the weakness in your argument. Many of us don't want to merge with anyone. We are happy the way we are. It is you who is pushing for a merging, even if that push leads to anger and hostilities. If you leave people alone, then there can be no hostilities can there?

Read your first line again; "That's because your forefather killed so many people and plunder so many land in about 300 years." Surely by your reasoning the people plundered are at fault. After all, they resisted change. That should have just accepted the new ways and embraced the good points of the invading culture. How dare they resist.

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Reply #425 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:28pm

You are totally wrong. In the ancient world. A guy living at 10 miles from you home may be unprotected in you village.

There are so many people in the world and there will be always conflicts on the border if you divide all the people apart.

When you do not contact to an other, you won't look him as same human as you. And you wont hesitate to kill him. That's exactly what happened in Australia in 100 years ago.

Before your forefather came to Australia. English and Aboriginals are completed segregation. What happened then?

The distance in 21st century is much shorter than 19th century.

... wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:18pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:12pm:

Nuclear weapons are very easy to destroy an area if you do not concern anybody in that area. Your idea is leading to destroy of the earth.

... wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:06pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 11:53am:

And segregation in 21st century will only lead to destroy. When people do not believe understanding of each others is necessary. They won't hesitate to kill all others who is different from them. When both side have nuclear weapons. The only result is destroy each others.

I don't think you understand what COMPLETE segregation means. Hard to kill someone if you have no contact with them whatsoever.

There is a place for everyone on this earth, but that doesn't mean every place should be open to every person.

Hard to hate someone enough to nuke em if you have no contact with them. Live and let live.

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Reply #426 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:30pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:28pm:

When you do not contact to an other, you won't look him as same human as you. And you wont hesitate to kill him.

That would require contact.

Remember this wasn't my preferred solution, mate. Just trying to show you that your dream world is just that - a dream.

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Reply #427 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:40pm

No one plunder you. Right? We come here in law with skills, technologies in peace. Not like your forefather.

You can choose not to understand us. Then I tell you it's you make the separated society.

You can deny and keep blaming. But it won't help to make a better Australia.

Quantum wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 11:23am:

That's because your forefather killed so many people and plunder so many land in about 300 years. However, it's only a short period in the history.

And the world won't be always like this. Even the government of US and Australia know that. Only you do not know the world is changing.

The only way for human being is merge together. Otherwise there will be more war and blood. And the nuclear weapons make the world more dangerous. If different main countries fight each others again all of us will die.

Join together is the only way. So stop you dream and join me to build a better world. OK?

Stop my dreaming? I am living in reality. The real world today. All this talk about merging together is the dream.

Surely you can see the weakness in your argument. Many of us don't want to merge with anyone. We are happy the way we are. It is you who is pushing for a merging, even if that push leads to anger and hostilities. If you leave people alone, then there can be no hostilities can there?

Read your first line again; "That's because your forefather killed so many people and plunder so many land in about 300 years." Surely by your reasoning the people plundered are at fault. After all, they resisted change. That should have just accepted the new ways and embraced the good points of the invading culture. How dare they resist.

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Reply #428 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:42pm

I wonder what's your race/nation if you are not Anglo-Saxon. And do you keep the culture of your race or nation?

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Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:28pm:

When you do not contact to an other, you won't look him as same human as you. And you wont hesitate to kill him.

That would require contact.

Remember this wasn't my preferred solution, mate. Just trying to show you that your dream world is just that - a dream.

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Reply #429 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:03pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:42pm:

I wonder what's your race/nation if you are not Anglo-Saxon. And do you keep the culture of your race or nation?

... wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:30pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:28pm:

When you do not contact to an other, you won't look him as same human as you. And you wont hesitate to kill him.

That would require contact.

Remember this wasn't my preferred solution, mate. Just trying to show you that your dream world is just that - a dream.

Why is it important? You're not some kind of racist are ya?

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Reply #430 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:07pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:40pm:

No one plunder you. Right? We come here in law with skills, technologies in peace. Not like your forefather.

You can choose not to understand us. Then I tell you it's you make the separated society.

You can deny and keep blaming. But it won't help to make a better Australia.

Technologies? New ones that we don't have? Ones that you haven't simply copied off western nations?

What's this "we" and "us" that you keep referring to yourself as? "We come here" etc.

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Reply #431 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:20pm

I just want to know. Do you keep your own culture?

... wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:03pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:42pm:

I wonder what's your race/nation if you are not Anglo-Saxon. And do you keep the culture of your race or nation?

... wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:30pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:28pm:

When you do not contact to an other, you won't look him as same human as you. And you wont hesitate to kill him.

That would require contact.

Remember this wasn't my preferred solution, mate. Just trying to show you that your dream world is just that - a dream.

Why is it important? You're not some kind of racist are ya?

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Reply #432 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:26pm

Do you know only novel theory or technologies can be published?

If you really believe the all the science and technologies in China are copied from western, you are fooled by some media. It's not true.

In this context, "You" means English Australian who came here with cannon. "We" means Chinese immigrants come in peace under the law.

Quantum wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:07pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 12:40pm:

No one plunder you. Right? We come here in law with skills, technologies in peace. Not like your forefather.

You can choose not to understand us. Then I tell you it's you make the separated society.

You can deny and keep blaming. But it won't help to make a better Australia.

Technologies? New ones that we don't have? Ones that you haven't simply copied off western nations?

What's this "we" and "us" that you keep referring to yourself as? "We come here" etc.

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Reply #433 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:41pm

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:26pm:

Do you know only novel theory or technologies can be published?

If you really believe the all the science and technologies in China are copied from western, you are fooled by some media. It's not true.

So what exactly can you offer Australia? What technology don't we have that the Chinese are so happy to share with us?

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In this context, "You" means English Australian who came here with cannon. "We" means Chinese immigrants come in peace under the law.

That's what I thought. And apparently I'm the one causing "segregation society".

I am Australian. I am not English, nor is my family. I call myself Australian, and I live as an Australian.

You on the other hand are a Chinaman who happens to live in this country. You clearly don't think of yourself as Australian, but simply as someone who has citizenship. Hence all the "you" and "us" talk.

Likewise you don't know Australian history (English came here with cannon? I must have missed the battle of Post Jackson against the Aboriginal Fleet in school history class), but you are willing to hold me responsible for it based on my race. You think that as I am a English Australian (which I am not) that I came here forcefully while you are peaceful. Yet it is my country that legally allows you to enter peacefully and gives you the freedom you have, while your country is far more repressive. You don't take any responsibility for the actions of the Chinese government (you chose to run away to my country because it is better), but I have a responsibility for the British colonization of this nation.

I therefore am a part of the "cannon" people, while your a part of the "peaceful" people. You talk in these categories, but I am responsible for "segregation" for not learning your language?

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Reply #434 - Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:45pm

I said many times "I am Australian too." If you do not forget or ignore particularly.

No one force you to learn other language. But it's you blaming there is a separated society.

I said many times. Be a friend or leave me a lone. I already tried to join with you. I learn English and communicate with you in English. I did many thing you didn't.

If you do not want to understand me still, so be it.

Quantum wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:41pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2012 at 1:26pm:

Do you know only novel theory or technologies can be published?

If you really believe the all the science and technologies in China are copied from western, you are fooled by some media. It's not true.

So what exactly can you offer Australia? What technology don't we have that the Chinese are so happy to share with us?

Quote:

In this context, "You" means English Australian who came here with cannon. "We" means Chinese immigrants come in peace under the law.

That's what I thought. And apparently I'm the one causing "segregation society".

I am Australian. I am not English, nor is my family. I call myself Australian, and I live as an Australian.

You on the other hand are a Chinaman who happens to live in this country. You clearly don't think of yourself as Australian, but simply as someone who has citizenship. Hence all the "you" and "us" talk.

Likewise you don't know Australian history (English came here with cannon? I must have missed the battle of Post Jackson against the Aboriginal Fleet in school history class), but you are willing to hold me responsible for it based on my race. You think that as I am a English Australian (which I am not) that I came here forcefully while you are peaceful. Yet it is my country that legally allows you to enter peacefully and gives you the freedom you have, while your country is far more repressive. You don't take any responsibility for the actions of the Chinese government (you chose to run away to my country because it is better), but I have a responsibility for the British colonization of this nation.

I therefore am a part of the "cannon" people, while your a part of the "peaceful" people. You talk in these categories, but I am responsible for "segregation" for not learning your language?

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