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Reply #45 - May 7^th, 2007 at 11:18pm

Gay, hhmm. God does not approve. For Christians "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."

Antigay sentiments come often from those that are insecure in their own sexuality. I agree, ignorance.

saudi Arabia is known as the purest form of muslimism.
To carry a Bible there is a 2 year jail sentence.
Listening to music or drinking alcohol there is 70 lashes.

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Reply #47 - May 7^th, 2007 at 11:43pm

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2007 at 4:13pm:

This is the truth about islam. No other belief is accepted under it.

The same used to be true of Christianity and probably most other religions. But it was not inherent to Christianity any more than it is to Islam. It is a cultural change that needs to happen and which is already happening.

What? You mean the separation of church and state? Is this the cultural change you're referring to, freediver?

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Reply #48 - May 8^th, 2007 at 10:14am

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 7^th, 2007 at 6:54pm:

Auss and US originated from christian beginnings. Initially, they were chrstian nations.
That they may now be secular without bloodshed shows the tolerance and freedom of christianity.
Part of christianity is to not judge others, so any other religion is not to be judged.

it's more a case of christianity not being relevant in people's day-to-day lives anymore, rather than an example of christianity being tolerant.

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turkey is not at the saudi adabia muslim stage, yet.
The people who are protesting do not want it to get there, ever.

but the pro-Islamic party got elected in the democratic elections, if these pro-secular protestors were so concerned they should of voted for a secular candidate or maybe they are minority of the total population.

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Were you the guy that said mohammad had no brothers, in reply to my posting about him killing his brother if allah wanted him to ? And his brother being excited at that reply ?
I don't know if mohammad had a brother or not. Those passages where what I read in the koran at a bookshop.

yes, that was me, i've had muslims tell me that Mohammed was an only child, his father died before he was born and his mother never re-married and had other children. so i find it quite unusual that u say there is a quote in the Koran where he says to his brother that allah told him to kill.

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I have brothers, there is no way God would tell me that.

hmm, i seem to remember a story in the Bible where Abraham was told by God to sacrifice his own son. r u disgusted by that as well?

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Reply #49 - May 8^th, 2007 at 10:41am

Hi JJJ,

How are you ?

Christianity, nor most other beliefs does not force its presence upon others, nor penalise nonbelievers in that society or force them to pray/worship a set time per day.

talkingtothemoon has posted some good links about turkey.

mohammad said that if allah had told him to kill his brother, he would. this was in response to a query about him murdering someone else.

yes, you are correct about abraham beign asked to sacrifice his own son. That was one of the more surprising/chilling parts in the Bible. God gave him a sheep (or ram or something) to sacrifice instead at the site. Still, disgusting thought.
He gave me some good quotes re child sacrifice a few months ago. There is also an astonishing link between child sacrifice, a man named ishmael in the old testament, suicide bombers and muslims.
Was a study I did that myself that God showed me more and more the further I went.

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Reply #50 - May 8^th, 2007 at 10:55am

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 8^th, 2007 at 10:41am:

Christianity, nor most other beliefs does not force its presence upon others

if ur referring to now, then like i said before that secular nations do not force religion upon others. but if ur referring to christian nations of the past, then ur wrong, they like all other religions forced their beliefs on others.

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mohammad said that if allah had told him to kill his brother, he would. this was in response to a query about him murdering someone else.

but that doesn't make sense, mohammed didn't have any brothers.

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yes, you are correct about abraham beign asked to sacrifice his own son. That was one of the more surprising/chilling parts in the Bible. God gave him a sheep (or ram or something) to sacrifice instead at the site. Still, disgusting thought.

so do u conclude that christianity is a violent, bloodthirsty religion? i think you should for consistency, it would be quite hypocritical to accept this story of the bible, and yet reject a similiar story in the Koran.

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Reply #51 - May 8^th, 2007 at 1:45pm

Hi JJJ,

secular nations do not force a belief on anyone - they don't have one !!

Yes, in the past "christians" have done bad things. This is not recommended to do in the Bible, quite the opposite. Poeple have used "christianity as an excuse for their own greed.
This has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus.

According to whay I read in the Koran, he did have a brother. At least, that is what is written. Why do you say he did not ? Was it what you were taught ?

No, I don't conclude that about Christianity. Does the term "turn the other cheek" and "Do not judge others" sounds bloodthirsty to you ?
Not every story in the Bible is "nice." It is a book about what happened, not a fairy tale about everyone eating chocolate and floating away on a rainbow.

The story in the koran (and others like it) make the violence the point and proof of their belief.
eg, after mohammad and his murderous thugs killed a poet in his bed one of the thugs said "I have never felt so good." Promoting and recommending murder.
As an afterthoght, why would they murderer a poet ? The only reason I can come to is, he wrote something against mohammad the paedophile.
Good way to contriol the media releases. Same as today under sharia law.

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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: U.N. definition of Genocide Reply #52 - May 30^th, 2007 at 12:09am If somebody committed genocide against muslims, i would not shed a tear. R.I.P Slobodan Milosovich.
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