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Reply #15 - Apr 3rd, 2007 at 8:17am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 30th, 2007 at 6:01am:
enviro said As I said, I have met many nice muslims but when I look at what the religion has done to all the predominately muslim countries in the world I feel sorry for them and know that whatever God they follow is no longer around.

There are some secular muslim countries. Furthermore there were periods in history where the same analysis would have lead you to believe that Christianity cripples nations while Islam frees them. It is nothing inherent to either religion. It's just the way the world happens to be at the moment.


Well put freediver. I have taken this on board as you are right and sometimes we can forget about history. What happens I think is that evil people end up at the top of something good and they manipulate that power to push their ideals for self benefits. Mainly I think to protect their rise in power.
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Reply #16 - Nov 12th, 2020 at 2:10pm
 
Stu wrote on Mar 22nd, 2007 at 7:53pm:
Hello Karen

you know as the constitution says
church and state should be kept seperate


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Tell that to ScoMo
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #17 - Nov 12th, 2020 at 2:14pm
 
enviro wrote on Apr 3rd, 2007 at 8:17am:
freediver wrote on Mar 30th, 2007 at 6:01am:
enviro said As I said, I have met many nice muslims but when I look at what the religion has done to all the predominately muslim countries in the world I feel sorry for them and know that whatever God they follow is no longer around.

There are some secular muslim countries. Furthermore there were periods in history where the same analysis would have lead you to believe that Christianity cripples nations while Islam frees them. It is nothing inherent to either religion. It's just the way the world happens to be at the moment.


Well put freediver. I have taken this on board as you are right and sometimes we can forget about history. What happens I think is that evil people end up at the top of something good and they manipulate that power to push their ideals for self benefits. Mainly I think to protect their rise in power.
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Well said FD.
Yes, long after their Messiah emerged from the ashes of France that the Moslems torched. They will wander as 'Empire' no more and wander like the Jews once did.
Then the Italians will get them and under Genocide they will plead with Allah, they will plead for the world - to come save them. But many remember their atrocities as 'Empire' and refuse.

...when even Allah forsakes them in the eyes of annihilation from Italy (Rome's last fight) - only then will Israel come to their aid and fight back Italy.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #18 - Nov 12th, 2020 at 5:38pm
 
.. and so the Battle of The Socks played out in Heaven.....
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Reply #19 - Nov 13th, 2020 at 11:33am
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Nov 12th, 2020 at 5:38pm:
.. and so the Battle of The Socks played out in Heaven.....


Yes. Always War in Heaven, never in Hell.
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Reply #20 - Nov 14th, 2020 at 7:43am
 
Classic Liberal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2007 at 8:52pm:
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The  separation  of church and state was written originally so as to prevent sectarian violence between catholics and protestants, the people who wrote the constitution never envisioned for Christianity to be separate from government. Proof of this can be found in the fact that parliament is and always has been opened by the LORDs prayer.



I get the feeling your assertion is just a guess that you seek to justify with the bit about the Lord's Prayer. This is known as confirmation-bias, where a person says "I believe this." and then looks for the evidence.
Now, I am not saying I am right, but you need to show us the actual discussion and decision where conflict between the big Christian groups was the reason for the separation of Church and State in our Constitution. It certainly wasn't with Henry VIII, and without facts, there is no reason to believe it here.
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