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Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school
Reply #60 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 1:02pm

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2007 at 9:41am:

All this anti muslim rhetoric is no different from the rhetoric against all the other minority groups that people have feared in the past, and it always turned out to be groundless. Why? Because those people are no different from us. There is no grand conspiracy.

Thank you freediver you succinctly sum up my rather elaborate argument in one line! Sorry for drifting off topic.

Now Trump, at the expense of making a fool of myself since I have declared I will not contribute any more, I have one final thing to say. For all your supposed insight into Islam I think you fail to account for one very important thing: Human nature. It is in our nature to be lazy, slothful and hedonistic and to desire freedom of expression. You cannot say a person is different because of their religion. Because of this I say that our hedonistic capitalist culture will always win out in the end because it offers a simpler, more enjoyable life. Even if the scary Muslims do not leave their faith, I can tell you our country will change the way they see things none the less. Have faith in the strength of Australian culture, it would be the nationalistic thing to do.

Oh and on the topic... I think at the end of the day, Vanstone has her heart in the right place, but has not thought this comment through. It would be very good for us to learn more geopolitically relevant languages in school, but no, language study should not be compulsory for any more of school than it already is

And that will be all from me in this thread Cool

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Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school
Reply #61 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 6:53pm

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Now Trump, at the expense of making a fool of myself since I have declared I will not contribute any more, I have one final thing to say. For all your supposed insight into Islam I think you fail to account for one very important thing: Human nature. It is in our nature to be lazy, slothful and hedonistic and to desire freedom of expression. You cannot say a person is different because of their religion. Because of this I say that our hedonistic capitalist culture will always win out in the end because it offers a simpler, more enjoyable life. Even if the scary Muslims do not leave their faith, I can tell you our country will change the way they see things none the less. Have faith in the strength of Australian culture, it would be the nationalistic thing to do.

I think you're overly optimistic about human nature, zoso. Sorry, I don't see any merit in what you've said at all.

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Trump, what are you studying if you don't mind me asking?

I do mind actually. Embarrassed

But speaking broadly, I'm an arts student. Strange being an arts student and a nationalist at the same time... let me tell you. Tongue

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Stick to the topic please people. Don't start attacking each othger because of a difference in opinion. That never solves anything.

I agree. I forget how we got into this in the first place.

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Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school
Reply #62 - Mar 14^th, 2007 at 7:25pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 14^th, 2007 at 6:53pm:

I do mind actually. Embarrassed

But speaking broadly, I'm an arts student. Strange being an arts student and a nationalist at the same time... let me tell you. Tongue

Thats ok I was just curious. I am interested only because I am studying myself. There are loads of important things that are taught in arts courses so you shouldn't be ashamed of it. Language (local and foreign), history, music, even architecture is sometimes lumped into arts. Arts itself is very important to our Australian cultural identity by the way.

I'd guess that maybe you are a history student? You do seem very interested in the topic. Or perhaps a journalism student? No matter either way.

And yes I am a very optimistic person by the way, you should try it sometimes its great for your health Cool

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Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school
Reply #64 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 11:47pm

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And yes I am a very optimistic person by the way, you should try it sometimes its great for your health

Really? I couldn't tell. Roll Eyes

Especially listening to those optimistic rants about the 'glories' of multiculturalism and muslims. Shocked

Being 'too optimistic' about human nature is a dangerous thing, zoso. I can take a little bit of optimism now and again... but in moderation.

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I'd guess that maybe you are a history student? You do seem very interested in the topic. Or perhaps a journalism student? No matter either way.

I major in a few things, but Im not going to give anything away. I'd rather keep it to myself.

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Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school
Reply #65 - Aug 24^th, 2020 at 8:25pm

DILLIGAF wrote on Mar 11^th, 2007 at 4:04pm:

Smh 9/3/07.

Every child in Australia should learn mandarin(chinese) or bahasa indonesia until year 12, Amanda Vanstone believes.
A minister for 11 years until january, senator vanstone said a nation wide language program would benefit australia for generations.
''If i was in charge of australia,i would ensure that every child from year 1 was either learning mandarin or bahasa. There would be no way around it,and they would learn it all the way through school, otherwise they just wouldnt progress."

An old Chinese arse-kisser to make Australia subordinate to the CCP.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90421 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school Reply #66 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 11:00pm Past politicians should be not seen and not heard - they had their shot, got their fat retirement, stuffed the country for those that work for a living - they should learn to STFU while the going's still good.
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Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school
Reply #67 - Aug 25^th, 2020 at 11:03pm

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2007 at 9:41am:

Stick to the topic please people. Don't start attacking each othger because of a difference in opinion. That never solves anything.

You can see this in societies such as Saudi Arabia, Bosnia and ANY Islamic society for that matter.

What about Turkey?

All this anti muslim rhetoric is no different from the rhetoric against all the other minority groups that people have feared in the past, and it always turned out to be groundless. Why? Because those people are no different from us. There is no grand conspiracy.

Aye - the rhetoric we can handle - it's the actions that speak the truth.....................................

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Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school
Reply #69 - Aug 26^th, 2020 at 5:44am

Australia's Chinese problem is that the lazy city dwellers who contribute nothing don't want to pay $9000 for an iPhone and $300 for a pair of shoes.

So they are wanting china to provide these things

Because
Because
Well just because.

The age of entitlement will always end.
It will end much quicker thanks to the economic demolition job of the lockdown

Then you will do what china tells you to do
He who pays the piper calls the tune.

You have lost to a more conscientious, industrious, strategic and selfless nation .
They are superior.
Deal with it
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school Reply #70 - Aug 26^th, 2020 at 9:50am If you're paying 9000 for an iPhone there something wrong.
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25426 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school Reply #71 - Aug 26^th, 2020 at 3:02pm If we had students learning a second language from age 6 to today, we would have a lot of fluent foreign-language speakers by now. Given my recent motivations, if I learned Chinese from back in 2003, I could probably have overcome a lot of problems by today.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120764 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school Reply #72 - Aug 26^th, 2020 at 4:24pm I don't want to learn one word of Chinese. I like the French language so at least I know that.
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Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school
Reply #73 - Aug 26^th, 2020 at 4:58pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 24^th, 2020 at 8:25pm:

DILLIGAF wrote on Mar 11^th, 2007 at 4:04pm:

Smh 9/3/07.

Every child in Australia should learn mandarin(chinese) or bahasa indonesia until year 12, Amanda Vanstone believes.
A minister for 11 years until january, senator vanstone said a nation wide language program would benefit australia for generations.
''If i was in charge of australia,i would ensure that every child from year 1 was either learning mandarin or bahasa. There would be no way around it,and they would learn it all the way through school, otherwise they just wouldnt progress."

An old Chinese arse-kisser to make Australia subordinate to the CCP.

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You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11142 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Learn an Asian language or flunk school Reply #74 - Aug 26^th, 2020 at 5:52pm We all probably could have learned an Asian language or two in the time since this thread was started in 2007. <------- looking at you again, JaSin.
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