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nope not at all.

Dont take this as loss of face, hows about a ceasefire?

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 13^th, 2007 at 10:49pm:

Thats a no Trump you read it. Have you?

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Ceasefire? You lost! you stopped firing meaningful shots long ago.

Lads, I'm afraid I'm going to have to leave it at that. Everything meaningful I have to say has been said and is recorded in this thread. Oh, Nationalist, get a life mate you and I both know you don't have the capacity to string together a coherent argument and you wont.

You put up a good fight boys but I'm sorry you will both lose out in the long run. Racist Cronulla riot sympathisers like yourselves are another example of a powerless vocal minority in this country. You have no political representation, no law or policy in this country supports your views, now that hardly seems nationalistic of you. The best political representation you had was Howard and he is on the way out. Even Howard supports multiculturalism, don't you get it? He calls it 'integration' but the word means the same thing. He may have a point but the end is the same and he does not mean 'assimilate or go home', he means obey our laws, respect our culture that is all. It is political double speak designed to get slow thinkers on his side. If you wish to argue this point then tell me: why does he continue to push a strong immigration policy? Why does he support the importation of skills from amongst others, Muslim nations? Why has Howard not sought to rid this country of religious freedoms that allow multiculturalism to exist?

No government in the future will invoke a white Australia policy again, we have already gone beyond the point of no return on the multicultural path, and yet for some reason our culture is vibrant and intact? Funny how that is. Mark my words this is the way it will continue to be, and racist bigots who choose to take the law into their own hands will be thrown in jail as they were after the cronulla riot. Your fight is lost, you will bring animosity only to yourselves through your ignorant views for Australia does not support you.

We are a multicultural nation in a multicultural world and this is the way it will always be. So suck sh!t lads 

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Okay. Good. So we've now established that you know little to nothing about the religion you're trying to defend. Now we're getting somewhere.
I, on the other hand, have done at least SOME research, and the know most of the customs, history and practices of this religion/cult, and quite frankly I find it quite disturbing, as you would if you researched it.

Now... I'll answer your posts in detail... and hopefully, this will result in some kind of conclusion, because quite frankly, I'm sick of arguing with a brick wall

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No... that's not research, but it's definitely primary material. And it's a lot better at judging Muslims by reading the actual Koran rather than judging them off 'feel good' newspaper articles by 'feel good' journalists. I know quite a few journalists... and some of them are the most braindead humans I've ever met in my life.


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Define 'true research.'

And I congratulate you for selecting a course that's actually worthwhile. -A politically opinionated engineer, what next? I'm kinda stuck in a boring course at the minute, thankfully I'm graduating soon.


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You're obviously not a media student.  Which papers do you read? -I'll judge how 'respectable' they are.

Word of advice: That whole 'moderate Muslim' thing is actually a myth.


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Give me a break.  I thought you read the papers.

The papers, TV and radio are doing everything (And I do mean everything) in their power to portray Muslims as 'moderate' and 'misunderstood.'

http://www.smh.com.au/news/fashion/from-bikini-to-burqini/2007/01/16/11687097134...

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Gee... that's such a 'respectable' and 'accurate' news-story isn't it? *VOMIT* 

I've heard reports from Sydney that these 'lifesavers' can't ACTUALLY swim! And that the other lifesavers were told to keep their mouths shut about it. It's all a big political stunt.


And if you don't think that this isn't a bias news-story, then you're frickin crazy:
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You can't tell me this isn't 'positive,' zoso.

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The trouble that IS caused by Muslims actually goes under-reported, zoso.


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There's that word 'minority' again. You're basically just repeating what the papers are telling you.

Ok guys good for you but my argument is over.

DT, good for you for putting some research into it (you think talking to ME is like talking to a brick wall?). It doesn't mean you aren't paranoid. The things you say may be true but if Muslims seek to dominate this country, they will fail. You have little faith in the strength of our own culture if you cannot see this.

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Well at least you can see logic somewhere.

Nationalist... hmm sounds very similar to Christianity... Again, if this is the truth, they will simply fail. I can't see your nationalism if you don't have enough faith in the strength of out own culture to prevail.

I predict no bombs will start going off... If they do I'll eat my words guys hows that sound?

Aside from that, I said my piece. If you guys are right, then you've already lost. If I'm right, things will be quite normal... who do you think is the paranoid nutter? Who has the country on their side? You both sound like you are approaching this from the Nazi angle as they did for the Jews. Dangerous philosophy lads, very dangerous.

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I am re-iterating what I already said. But yes it was stupid and pointless.

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Stick to the topic please people. Don't start attacking each othger because of a difference in opinion. That never solves anything.

You can see this in societies such as Saudi Arabia, Bosnia and ANY Islamic society for that matter.

What about Turkey?

All this anti muslim rhetoric is no different from the rhetoric against all the other minority groups that people have feared in the past, and it always turned out to be groundless. Why? Because those people are no different from us. There is no grand conspiracy.