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Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist?
Feb 20^th, 2007 at 3:09am

Just wondering whether anyone knows whether this guy...

...ever claimed to be a

commie

?

His song 'imagine' seems to follow my theory perfectly:
Quote:

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Summarising, Communists think:
A) There's no such thing as 'religion.'
B) There should be no such thing as 'countries.'
C) There should be no such thing as 'races.'

John Lennon seemed to follow this theme throughout the rest of his life after turning weird after he left his first wife for Yoko. Are my suspicions correct? Did Lennon ever fess up to being a communist?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53201 At my desk.	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #1 - Feb 20^th, 2007 at 9:08am I actually did a presentation on that song in high school English for the section on protest songs. I was advised to call him a socialist, not a communist. He made no effort to hide it.
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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #2 - Feb 20^th, 2007 at 11:12pm I see. But have you got an 'actual quote' of John Lennon to back it up?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53201 At my desk.	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #3 - Feb 21^st, 2007 at 9:49am No, apart from that song.
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Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist?
Reply #4 - Feb 26^th, 2007 at 11:50pm

**Revolution**

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right

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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #5 - Feb 27^th, 2007 at 2:29am Welcome to the forum, first of all, shithouse rat. Now... Quote: But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow You reckon this indicates that Lennon wasn't a communist?
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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #6 - Feb 27^th, 2007 at 12:47pm Is shithouse rat a communist?
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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #7 - Feb 27^th, 2007 at 3:01pm Quote: Is shithouse rat a communist? Well, he does have a suitable name for one.
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auzgurl Ex Member	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #8 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 9:44am Shithouse rat.. Love that song:)
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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #9 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 2:59pm What about their song ''Back in the USSR'?
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Reply #10 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 6:03pm

AN..a thought..I wonder, and it is just me wondering out loud here..if all politcal songs neccessarily reflect the values of the composer?

I suppose you'd have to say yes to that..but i wonder sometimes if songs are penned simply because the composer believes theyll be popular with the music buying pu Roll Eyes

blic?

Just a thought.

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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #11 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 6:40pm Yeah id say so..... unless peter garrett really is a sellout. And i dont think people would be singing pro soviet songs during the cold war- unless they were sympathetic to communism.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53201 At my desk.	back in the USSR Reply #12 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 6:41pm What are the lyrics for that song?
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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist? Reply #13 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 6:55pm I dont have them. but if someone could supply them it be good.
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Re: Was John Lennon (The Beatles) a communist?
Reply #14 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 6:58pm

Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
Oh, the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the USSR, yeah

Been away so long I hardly knew the place
Gee, it's good to be back home
Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case
Honey disconnect the phone
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSR

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
They Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind
Oh, come on
Hu Hey Hu, hey, ah, yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boys
Back in the USSR

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
They Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind

Oh, show me round your snow peaked
mountain way down south
Take me to you daddy's farm
Let me hear you balalaika's ringing out
Come and keep your comrade warm
I'm back in the USSR
Hey, You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the USSR
Oh, let me tell you honey

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