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Re: Congratulations Iraq
Reply #60 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 5:07pm
 
i love the tour, and go cadel! but there is no way cyclings event is the world premier event...

you forget yourself sprint.

world cup and then olympics, then the tour.

anyway good on Iraq, they played with hearts, even though Korea, Saudi and Australia whom they all beat are way better teams, it  goes to show a lot of heart (and a good european coach) can get you a long way.
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Re: Congratulations Iraq
Reply #61 - Aug 13th, 2007 at 12:01am
 
Don't take this the wrong way people... but...

bugger Iraq.

Do you guys realise what happened when this barbaric country made the semi-finals? In celebrations after the game in Bagdhad... about 20 people were killed.

Iraqis can't go five minutes without killing someone... why? Because they aren't civilised and are the armpit of th world.

They'll get no respect from me... ever.
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Reply #62 - Mar 19th, 2007 at 1:03pm
 
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21404747-2703,00.html

DESPITE sectarian slaughter, ethnic cleansing and suicide bombs, an opinion poll conducted on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq has found striking resilience and optimism among the inhabitants.

The poll, the biggest since coalition troops invaded Iraq on March 20, 2003, indicates that by a majority of two to one, Iraqis prefer the current leadership to Saddam Hussein's regime despite the collapse of security and lack of public services.

The survey, published yesterday, found that contrary to the views of many Western analysts, most Iraqis do not believe they are in a civil war.

Officials in Washington and London are likely to be buoyed by the poll, conducted by the Opinion Research Business, a British market research company that funded its own survey of 5019 Iraqis over 18.

But the poll highlights the impact that sectarian violence has had. About 26 per cent of Iraqis - 15 per cent of Sunnis and 34 per cent of Shi'ites - have suffered the murder of a family member.

Kidnapping also plays a terrifying role: 14 per cent of Iraqis have had a relative, friend or colleague abducted, rising to 33 per cent in Baghdad, since the fall of Saddam.

But 49 per cent of those questioned preferred life under Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to living under Saddam, while 26 per cent said things were better in Saddam's era, 16 per cent said they were as bad as each other and the rest did not know or refused to answer.

Not surprisingly, the divisions in Iraqi society were reflected in the statistics: Sunnis were more likely to back the previous Ba'ath Party regime (51 per cent) while the Shi'ites (66 per cent) preferred the Maliki Government.

A surprise was that only 27 per cent believed they were caught up in a civil war. Again, that number divided along religious lines, with 41 per cent of Sunnis believing Iraq was in civil war, while 15 per cent of Shi'ites thought things were that bad.

In a boost for the other arm of the surge, Sunni tribes from Anbar have united to oppose al-Qa'ida, sending thousands of young men to join the government security forces and co-operating with US and Iraqi commanders.

One question showed the sharp divide in attitudes towards the continued presence of foreign troops in Iraq. About 53 per cent of Iraqis believe security would improve after the withdrawal of foreign forces, while only 26 per cent think it will get worse.

Despite the sectarian divide, 64per cent of Iraqis still want to see a united Iraq under a central national government.

One statistic that bodes ill for Iraq's future is the number of people who have fled the country, many of them middle-class professionals. Baghdad has been hard hit by the brain drain - 35 per cent said a family member had left the country.
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Re: Regime better than Saddam
Reply #63 - Mar 19th, 2007 at 5:22pm
 
My stance is there was more order there when saddam was leader.
Sure, some might suffer, but isnt that the price to pay for the greater good? ie- peace!
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Reply #64 - Mar 19th, 2007 at 6:06pm
 
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My stance is there was more order there when saddam was leader.
Sure, some might suffer, but isnt that the price to pay for the greater good? ie- peace!

Hmm, I agree.

Although I would be a supporter of change were Saddam never ousted, I would support that change from within, not from outside.
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Reply #65 - Mar 19th, 2007 at 6:12pm
 

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Hmm, I agree.

Although I would be a supporter of change were Saddam never ousted, I would support that change from within, not from outside.


Same here. a slow democratic change would have been ideal for Iraq. Saddam would have been the mediator.
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Reply #66 - Mar 19th, 2007 at 6:20pm
 
Saddam would have been the mediator.

Grin He could have also handed out fairy floss on the street corner.....
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Re: Regime better than Saddam
Reply #67 - Mar 23rd, 2007 at 9:29pm
 
Yes a slow deomcratic change.

Um did you read the article, 2/3 of the Iraqi people prefer that America Invaded, who cares what you prefer it is their country.

Once Saddam died his children would have taken over just as in North Korea, it would have taken hundreds of years for a "slow democratic change", thats how long it took in europe.

Since when is Peace of greater importance than Freedom? If peace were so important we should capitualte in every war and put up with everything in the name of "Peace".

I guess with your logic a Peaceful Nazi Europe with the mass murder of Jews and Slavs amongst many other minorities would have been a worthy price to pay for a greater good of "Peace".

Peace is overrated.
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Reply #68 - Mar 23rd, 2007 at 11:02pm
 
Classic Liberal wrote on Mar 23rd, 2007 at 9:29pm:
Yes a slow deomcratic change.

Um did you read the article, 2/3 of the Iraqi people prefer that America Invaded, who cares what you prefer it is their country.

Once Saddam died his children would have taken over just as in North Korea, it would have taken hundreds of years for a "slow democratic change", thats how long it took in europe.

Since when is Peace of greater importance than Freedom? If peace were so important we should capitualte in every war and put up with everything in the name of "Peace".

I guess with your logic a Peaceful Nazi Europe with the mass murder of Jews and Slavs amongst many other minorities would have been a worthy price to pay for a greater good of "Peace".

Peace is overrated.


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Reply #69 - Mar 24th, 2007 at 1:08am
 


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Um did you read the article, 2/3 of the Iraqi people prefer that America Invaded, who cares what you prefer it is their country.


You idiot, of course they like the fact that he is gone. saddam was a sunni muslim, the shites are the ones who hated him and are now in control. they are the most evil of the muslims.
As a jew i thought you would have known that.
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Reply #70 - Dec 21st, 2006 at 5:24pm
 
The Australian Wheat Board included $290 000 000 worth of bribes to Saddam Hussein as deductions in it's tax return. The Australian Tax Office saw no problem with this and has accepted their inclusion. Meanwhile Australian farmers are rallying behind the AWB, despite the risk of economic fallout for them resulting from the kickbacks scandal. I guess they considered the risks and thought they would get more money with the AWB doing 'whatever it takes' to sell their product for them.
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Reply #71 - Dec 21st, 2006 at 6:42pm
 

Terence Cole's report found that the kickbacks to Saddam were not a bribe - first I've heard of it.  The ATO is using Cole's "findings" to make this $290 million a tax reduction and Costello is going along with it.  If the Cole report recommended charges be laid against 11 AWB executives and if this money wasn't a bribe - then why should these executives be charged?

[[But a spokesman for Mr Costello said a section in the appendix of the Cole report, showed that the criminal code had not been breached]]

Can anyone understand this ruling by the ATO and Terence Cole?  Nothing makes sense - only the fact that our laws are a farce.  If there was nothing illegal, even though every other country believes there was, why did we have this inquiry - at great expense?

The fact is - there's one rule for multinationals and the elite and another for us ordinary folk.
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Surge working: top US general
Reply #72 - Aug 31st, 2007 at 12:24pm
 
To me this indicates that foreign troops are still having a net beneficial effect in Iraq (though it would be good to see the actual numbers). Having destabilised the country politically and destroyed many of their critical institutions, we should feel obligued to help them rebuild.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22337285-31477,00.html

THE US troop surge in Iraq has thrown al-Qa'ida off balance and produced a dramatic reduction in sectarian killings and a drop in roadside bombings.

David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, said the build-up of American forces in Baghdad since late January had produced positive outcomes. These included the killing or capture of al-Qa'ida fighters, causing the terrorist group to lose influence with local Sunnis.

General Petraeus told The Australian during a face-to-face interview at his Baghdad headquarters there had been a 75 per cent reduction in religious and ethnic killings since last year, a doubling in the seizure of insurgents' weapons caches between January and August, a rise in the number of al-Qa'ida "kills and captures" and a fall in the number of coalition deaths from roadside bombings.



AWB breaching the law, says Labor

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/AWB-breaching-the-law-says-Labor/2007/09/13/1189276890657.html

A fresh ruckus is erupting around AWB as the disgraced company prepares to handle one last wheat pool.

Labor and farm groups are outraged by an apparent attempt to insert extra costs into the 2007-08 wheat pool.

Opposition primary industries spokesman Kerry O'Brien says the costs of winding up AWB International along with costs from previous seasons are being included in the up-coming pool.

"I have received legal advice which raises serious concerns about AWB's conduct in relation to this final pool," Senator O'Brien told the Senate.
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Re: Iraq
Reply #73 - Sep 18th, 2007 at 8:07am
 
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Feb 23rd, 2007 at 3:51am:
This thread should be re-titled: 'Post your stupid anti-American pics here'
I agree.

People who have no argument love to edit photographs.
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Saddam to hang in 30 days or less.
Reply #74 - Dec 27th, 2006 at 10:46pm
 


How do we feel about that?

I feel as though he is a just a  sacrifice for the Bush administration.

Supposed to have killed thousands but being charged and convicted over the death of 147 kurds..

Whats going on???
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