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Re: Mahi militia 'will target prince Harry'.
Reply #45 - Apr 28th, 2007 at 10:04pm
 
mantra wrote on Apr 28th, 2007 at 9:58pm:
It is madness - can we be sure that he really is being sent there?  Iraq is such a desperate, filthy and out of control civil war - all sides are blowing each other up and nobody is safe.

The insurgents would love to capture Harry.  They could demand anything they wanted - first and foremost - get the Americans out!




I agree mantra- there is no way they could guarantee his safety, not to mention the safety of those in his section.

This surley is just one more complication in an already ,as you say 'out of control civil war'.
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Prince Harry won't go to Iraq: UK govt
Reply #46 - May 17th, 2007 at 9:02am
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Prince-Harry-wont-go-to-Iraq-UK-govt/2007/05/17/1178995260260.html

Prince Harry will not be sent to serve in Iraq after military commanders decided it would be too dangerous, Britain's Ministry of Defence says.

Insurgents have made specific threats against Harry, saying he could be a kidnap target.

"I've decided the risk to Prince Harry is too great," Richard Dannatt, the head of the British army, told reporters.

"I've also decided that the risk he brings to his troop and his squadron ... is also too great."
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Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #47 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 9:55am
 
we already knew this, but i reckon it's good to hear it from the horse's mouth.

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Oil behind Iraq war: Government
July 05, 2007 09:27am
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22021230-5001021,00.html

THE Federal Government has admitted the need to secure oil supplies is a factor in Australia's continued military involvement in Iraq.

Defence Minister Brendan Nelson today said oil was a factor in Australia's contribution to the unpopular war as "energy security" and stability in the Middle East would be crucial to the nation's future.

Speaking ahead of a key foreign policy speech today by Prime Minister John Howard, Dr Nelson said defence was about protecting the economy as well as physical security - and it was important to support the "prestige" of the US and UK.

"The defence update we're releasing today sets out many priorities for Australia's defence and security, and resource security is one of them," he said.

"The entire (Middle East) region is an important supplier of energy - oil in particular - to the rest of the world.

"Australians and all of us need to think well what would happen if there were a premature withdrawal from Iraq?"

Dr Nelson said the primary reason for Australian troops remaining in Iraq was to prevent violence between the Sunni and Shia population, and to bring stability to the region.

Mr Howard is to today rule out a withdrawl of combat troops from Iraq. The Australian newspaper reports he will insist our 550-strong force will stay until the Iraqi Government says they are no longer needed.

"We're also there to support our key ally - that's the United States of America - and we're there to ensure that we don't have terrorism driven from Iraq which would destabilise our own region," Dr Nelson added.

"For all of those reasons, one of which is energy security, it's extremely important that Australia take the view that it's in our interests ... to make sure we leave the Middle East and leave Iraq in particular in a position of sustainable security."

Isolationism would not make Australia safer, he said.

When Australia joined the US-led invasion force of Saddam Hussein's Iraq in 2003, the Government said it was primarily because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that could pose a threat to the US and its allies.

Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd will outline a section of Labor's foreign policy today in a speech in Sydney.

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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #48 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 11:17am
 
No, that can't be right, we went into Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Oh well, at least the Government was nice enough to admit that the Iraqi war was about the oil.
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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #49 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 12:30pm
 
oil was not the reaosn we went to war. There was a mass murdering madman named sadam hussain.

oil is cheap, compared to the price of waging a war. We still have to buy it anyway.



"the primary reason for Australian troops remaining in Iraq was to prevent violence between the Sunni and Shia population, and to bring stability to the region. "
"We're also there to support our key ally - that's the United States of America - and we're there to ensure that we don't have terrorism driven from Iraq which would destabilise our own region," Dr Nelson added.

"For all of those reasons, one of which is energy security, it's extremely important that Australia take the view that it's in our interests ... to make sure we leave the Middle East and leave Iraq in particular in a position of sustainable security."

Isolationism would not make Australia safer, he said.  "



oil is only a minor consideration.

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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #50 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 2:50pm
 
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[quote author=sprintcyclist link=1183593305/0#2 date=1183602618]oil was not the reaosn we went to war. There was a mass murdering madman named sadam hussain.


Dont be stupid Sprint, there wasnt any MASS murdering going on over there.
Saddam was good for Iraq. he kept order.





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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #51 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 3:06pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 5th, 2007 at 12:30pm:
oil was not the reaosn we went to war. There was a mass murdering madman named sadam hussain.

oil is cheap, compared to the price of waging a war. We still have to buy it anyway.



"the primary reason for Australian troops remaining in Iraq was to prevent violence between the Sunni and Shia population, and to bring stability to the region. "
"We're also there to support our key ally - that's the United States of America - and we're there to ensure that we don't have terrorism driven from Iraq which would destabilise our own region," Dr Nelson added.

"For all of those reasons, one of which is energy security, it's extremely important that Australia take the view that it's in our interests ... to make sure we leave the Middle East and leave Iraq in particular in a position of sustainable security."

Isolationism would not make Australia safer, he said.  "



oil is only a minor consideration.



Yeah sure Sprint..and guys only read Playboy for the informative articles Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin

It must be so easy in the world  in which you live..la la land.
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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #52 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 3:07pm
 
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[quote author=sprintcyclist link=1183593305/0#2 date=1183602618]oil was not the reaosn we went to war. There was a mass murdering madman named sadam hussain.


Dont be stupid Sprint, there wasnt any MASS murdering going on over there.
Saddam was good for Iraq. he kept order.








Ill second that..  Wink
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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #53 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 3:31pm
 
oil is cheap, compared to the price of waging a war

You sure about that?
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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #54 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 3:46pm
 
"In December, 2003, following a tip-off from an intelligence source, US forces found Saddam Hussein hiding in an underground refuge on a farm near Tikrit. It was decided that Saddam should be charged with the massacre in the small town of Dujail in 1982"

yes, he did keep order, in a way.


the war is costing US billions of dollars a day. whether US "wins" or not, they still have to buy oil.
At best it is the difference in price of oil under a "US" iraq, or a "nonUS" iraq they are looking at.

Oil prices are set by supply and dem,and worldwide.
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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #55 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 3:48pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 5th, 2007 at 3:46pm:

At best it is the difference in price of oil under a "US" iraq, or a "nonUS" iraq they are looking at.


that can be quite significant given how much the US is dependent on foreign oil.

also, what happened to just "Iraq"? why do u refer to a US Iraq and a non-US Iraq? It doesn't seem right that the US wants to control another country.
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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #56 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 3:53pm
 
I meant an iraq  how it would have been without US liberating it
Or iraq how it is now, with an elected govt.

(How is that for a one eyed view ?)

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Re: Oil behind Iraq war: Government
Reply #57 - Jul 5th, 2007 at 4:06pm
 
The oil market is not openly competitive. OPEC openly engages in anti competitive behaviour. That was the reason behind the first gulf war. Interfering in the middle east to ensure a copetitive market place could save the US significant amounts of money.
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Congratulations Iraq
Reply #58 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 11:06am
 
OK, so I don't watch much soccer, but I did feel a bit embarrassed when Iraq beat us. Now they've gone on to win the Asia cup - well done!

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Iraq-beat-Saudi-Arabia-to-win-Asian-Cup/2007/07/30/1185647769210.html

Iraq has won the 2007 Asian Cup in a victory that represented one of the most inspiring moments in sport, but one that was also weighted by the tragedy from which the team has only temporarily emerged.

A 1-0 victory over Saudi Arabia clinched Iraq's first ever Asian Cup, with a squad drawn together in ad-hoc circumstances from all parts of the Gulf, and with its players straddling the bitter and violent ethnic divides.

And it was no lucky win. Iraq dominated the final against a heavily favoured Saudi Arabia, a three-time Asian Cup champion.

At the final whistle, captain and goal scorer Younis Mahmoud sprinted across the pitch with his elated teammates in pursuit before they collapsed into a pile, overwhelmed with their achievement.

But that elation was juxtaposed against the tragedy in their homeland, and as coach Jorvan Vieira and Mahmoud sat wearing black armbands in the post-match news conference to commemorate the dozens of fans killed during post semifinal celebration, they represented the victory's bittersweet nature.
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Re: Congratulations Iraq
Reply #59 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 2:26pm
 
As boring a game as soccer is, good on them.




Who cares - what about Cadel Evans !!!!! Got 2nd in the worlds premier event.



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