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'Strict Muslim' raped four women at knifepoint to 'punish them for being on the streets at night'

Sunny Islam, 23, kidnapped and raped girl, 15
Subjected victims to his 'trademark double rape'
Attacks took place over 2 months in east London
Jailed indefinitely due to danger he poses to women

A Muslim man who raped women to 'teach them a lesson' for being on the streets at night was jailed indefinitely today because of the danger he poses to women.

Sunny Islam, 23, who comes from a strict Muslim family, dragged his terrified victims - including a 15-year-old - from the street at knifepoint, bound and assaulted them during a two-month reign of terror.

Police fear that Islam may have attacked many more.

Three of the assaults took place close to his home in Barking, east London, while a fourth occurred in nearby Forest Gate.

Judge Patricia Lees, sentencing him to a minimum of 11 years, said: 'The harm you have done to your victims is incalculable.

'The nature and extent of these offences drives me to the conclusion that you represent an extreme and continuing danger to women, particularly those out at night.'

He was traced through the number plate of his girlfriend's car after he kidnapped and raped the 15-year-old in September 2010.

He grabbed her from behind as she walked home with a friend and bundled her into the car at knifepoint before driving to a secluded spot where he raped her twice despite her claiming she was only 11 years old.

Judge Lees said: 'You told her you were going to "teach her a lesson", and similar things were said to the other women.

'Those words are a chilling indictment of your very troubling attitude towards all of these victims.

'You seem to observe women out at night as not deserving respect or protection.

I have no doubt that you were out that night looking for a victim, as you were on each of these occasions.'

The teen, who feared she would be murdered, was in court and smiled as her attacker was jailed.

In a victim impact statement read to the court, she said: 'No one will ever understand the flashbacks - they are so real. At night, I lay in my bed and it is like I am there.

'It is like a screen in my mind forcing me to relive that night again and again.

'People will say time will heal, but I think time has helped me accept the truth - that I will never escape what has happened to me.'

After his arrest, Islam's DNA was linked with three other attacks near his home in Barking, prosecutor Sara Lawson told Woolwich Crown Court.
'He treated me like an animal and made me feel worthless. I thought I was going to die'

The judge said on July 8, 2010 he subjected a 20-year-old prostitute to 'his trademark double rape' and then tied her up, repeatedly punched her in the face and stole her wallet.

She said: 'He treated me like an animal and made me feel worthless - I thought I was going to die.'

Six days later, in Forest Gate, he struck again on a 28-year-old when he dragged her into his car and forced her to commit a sex act.

She managed to kick out the back window of his car and escape despite being throttled.

His fourth victim, also attacked in September, did not come forward until police found the 31-year-old's blood in the back of the car along with a knife he used to threaten his victims and plastic ties he bound them with.

She was repeatedly repeatedly punched in the face until she was bleeding and then tied up and raped twice.

Islam, who told the jury he was a practising Muslim, was convicted of seven charges of rape, one of sexual assault and one of kidnap.

Tana Adkin, defending, said: 'The only piece of mitigation is his age. He was 21 at the time of these offences and comes from something of a strict background.'

His mother, in religious dress, sat with her covered head bowed throughout and wept as her son was jailed.

Judge Lees said: 'The fact that you have attacked these women not withstanding your background must represent your own wholly warped personality.'

After the trial, Det Chief Insp John Sandlin, of the Homicide and Serious Crime Command who investigated the offences, said they believed there may be other victims who had not come forward, but Islam has not been charged with any further offences.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091669/Sunny-Islam-Strict-Muslim-raped-4-women-knifepoint-punish-them.html

How true and apt; Sunny Islam. Only go out when the sun is shining.

A bit of propaganda a to label such a person as a "strict Muslim".

In islam, sex outside of marriage is considered one of the biggest sins.

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...He was traced through the number plate of his girlfriend's car...

He was so strict he had a girlfriend?

Did the judge, who is familiar with the case, associate the crime with religion?

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...Judge Lees further added: 'The fact that you have attacked these women not withstanding your background must represent your own wholly warped personality
http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/sunday-zest/6229-how-sunny-islam-raped-4-women-at-knifepoint-to-teach-them-a-lesson

Posting an article like this is ridiculous. How many crimes are committed by Catholic priests or atheists or Jews everyday?

BRITISH PUBLIC MOST LIKELY TO BLAME THE MEDIA FOR ISLAMOPHOBIA

A new ComRes survey on Islamophobia - the fear of the Muslim faith - reveals that people think that the media is most to blame for whipping up a climate of fear of Islam in the UK.
People are twice as likely to say the media is to blame for Islamophobia (29%) than far-right groups (13%), or indeed Muslims themselves either abroad (14%) or in the UK (11%).
Conservative Party Chairman, Sayeeda Warsi, recently said Islamophobia had „passed the dinner table test‟, becoming a social norm. Indeed, just 1% of people do not think that Islamophobia exists in the UK....

http://www.comres.co.uk/poll/499/ahmadiyya-muslim-association-uk-islamophobia-survey.htm

Sex abuse 'widespread' in Catholic Church, Philadelphia judge says

The judge in the trial of two Catholic priests and a former priest declared her belief Tuesday that sexual abuse was "widespread" in the Catholic Church.

Reviewing a list of questions to be asked of potential jurors, Common Pleas Court Judge M. Teresa Sarmina arrived at one that read "Do you believe child sex abuse is a widespread problem in the Catholic Church?" and hesitated.

"Anybody that doesn't think there is widespread sexual abuse within the Catholic Church is living on another planet," she said, recommending the question be stricken from the list...

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/138454494.html?c=r

Notorious pedophile priest jailed for three years for child pornography - VIDEO

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Notorious-pedophile-priest-jailed-for-three-years-for-child-pornography-138387299.html

Hindu Priest held for rape attempt

A man who claimed to be a tantrik was arrested on Sunday for allegedly trying to rape a woman and rob her of jewellery in the Govindpuri area of southeast Delhi. The accused, Nand Lal Gupta, is a priest at a temple in Tughlakabad Extension. "The woman approached him for treatment of pain in her hand, but he allegedly tried to assault her sexually," said Ajay Chaudhry, addl CP, southeast.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-01-31/delhi/31009042_1_priest-attempt-woman

French rabbi questioned in rape of minor females

A founder of the French Liberal Jewish movement was questioned on suspicion that he raped several female minors.

French media reported Tuesday that Rabbi Daniel Farhi, 70, was questioned the same day at a police station in Paris. He has denied the accusations.

The Liberal movement is associated with Reform Judaism...

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/01/18/3091256/french-rabbi-suspected-of-raping-minor-females

Buddhist monk 'confesses' to rape of British tourist

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/cambodia/3482682/Buddhist-monk-confesses-to-rape-of-British-tourist.html

Buddhist monk charged with raping Australian

http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/buddhist-monk-charged-with-raping-australian/story-e6frfkp9-1111112934035

Buddhist monk accused of raping teen

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8319187

falah wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 9:49am:

A bit of propaganda a to label such a person as a "strict Muslim".

In islam, sex outside of marriage is considered one of the biggest sins.

If sex outside of marriage is a sin as you claim then explain the coptic christian sex slave Mohammad had who gave him his only son Ibrahim?

Were Mo and Maria married?
Does the Quran tell you 91 times to follow the example Mohammad set?

Sex slaves are halal for muslim men if they are not married to their slave is this considered sex outside of marriage?

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Islam allows a man to have intercourse with his slave woman,whether he has a wife or wives or he is not married.
The wife has no right to object to her husband owning female slaves or to his having intercourse with them
Source-http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/10382/slave%20girl

Falah wants to pretend that this is a game of see who can find the most examples of people of other belief systems committing crimes. That is why he is so loathe to discuss the relevant aspects of Islamic law.

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People are twice as likely to say the media is to blame for Islamophobia (29%) than far-right groups (13%), or indeed Muslims themselves either abroad (14%) or in the UK (11%).

Sounds like about a quarter of them have asked local Muslims for their thoughts on things like death for apostasty, rape etc. Or at least, a quarter have persisted till they got a straight answer.

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Sex abuse 'widespread' in Catholic Church, Philadelphia judge says

How does Islam prevent illegal sex abuse? By legalising it.

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If sex outside of marriage is a sin as you claim then explain the coptic christian sex slave Mohammad had who gave him his only son Ibrahim?

Muslims often forget to mention that sex slaves are permitted. Or, so as not to confuse Abu's linguistic analties, you can have sex with slaves, so long you do not refer to them as sex slaves, as that might imply there is something wrong about it. There is no concept of consent in Islam, from a slave or a wife. Sex with your husband/owner is a duty.

falah wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 9:49am:

A bit of propaganda a to label such a person as a "strict Muslim".

In islam, sex outside of marriage is considered one of the biggest sins.

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...He was traced through the number plate of his girlfriend's car...

He was so strict he had a girlfriend?

Did the judge, who is familiar with the case, associate the crime with religion?

[quote]...Judge Lees further added: 'The fact that you have attacked these women not withstanding your background must represent your own wholly warped personality
http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/sunday-zest/6229-how-sunny-islam-raped-4-women-at-knifepoint-to-teach-them-a-lesson

Posting an article like this is ridiculous. How many crimes are committed by Catholic priests or atheists or Jews everyday?

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According to Abu, rape is totally legit in the context of war. Abu also thinks that the west has been at war with the Muslim world for a century or so.

You do the math.

falah wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 9:49am:

A Posting an article like this is ridiculous. How many crimes are committed by Catholic priests or atheists or Jews everyday?

Your entries about Catholic priests are correct. However, Islam promotes itself as a religion of peace. It is a religion that respects women. That is not the case. Mr Sunny Islam an alleged holy book that allows him to act in the manner he did. Why?

Apparently it was a sight improvement on tribal Arab lifestyle 1400 years ago. How can you argue with that?

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 5:58pm:

People are twice as likely to say the media is to blame for Islamophobia (29%) than far-right groups (13%), or indeed Muslims themselves either abroad (14%) or in the UK (11%).

How does Islam prevent illegal sex abuse? By legalising it.

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LOL

Touche' FD.

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Mohammed, from the Hadith.....

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me:"
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062

Mohammed claimed that his carnal lust, was 'sanctified' [made 'holy'] by Allah himself.

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
Koran 33.50

"O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
Koran 66.1

Yadda wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 12:10pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 5:58pm:

How does Islam prevent illegal sex abuse? By legalising it.

LOL

Touche' FD.

Google;
pedophilia marriages, islam, sharia

Within all jurisdictions where the Sharia 'legal' system is 'mainstream', paedophilia [i.e. HAVING SEX WITH CHILDREN] is formally 'legitimised' in [ISLAMIC] marriage law.

ISLAM [i.e. ISLAMIC law], makes it 'lawful' for men of all ages, to have sex with small children.

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And who would deny, that ISLAMIC law is facilitating the rape of small children ?

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Only moslems.

Dictionary;
facilitate = = make easy or easier.

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Only in islam....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1233704211/9#9

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PLOUGHING YOUR FIELD, in a Sharia jurisdiction.....

April 11, 2008
8-year-old girl seeks divorce in Yemen
.....SANA’A, April 9 - An eight-year-old girl decided last week to go the Sana’a West Court to prosecute her father, who forced her to marry a 30-year-old man......
.......Whenever I wanted to play in the yard he beat me and asked me to go to the bedroom with him. This lasted for two months," added Nasser. "He was too tough with me, and whenever I asked him for mercy, he beat me and slapped me and then used me.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1231993677/36#36
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1315270914/16#16
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1236217597/2#2
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1302177029/3#3

more examples, different country......
Google;
Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage

Google;
site:http://www.jihadwatch.org 8 years old marriage saudi arabia

Your accusations what make more sense if the Western world could make up its mind on what a child actually is.

Western society has constantly changed its mind on what is a child.

In the Netherlands prostitution is completely legal for 16 year-olds.

In England, 6 year-olds were sent down coal mines or up chimneys until fairly recently.

In the US, people under the age of 21 are not allowed to drink alcohol.

In the US a 14 year-old can get married.

In much of European history, reaching puberty was a sign of a person being old enough to marry.

As for the issue of concubines, many of the prohets in the Bible had concubines; Abraham, David, Solomon, etc.

Having concubines has been practiced in most great civilisations, and was practiced in Christian Europe.

The European Christians went a bit further than concubinage with aristocrats demanding prima nocta (first night with the virgin brides of their serfs)

droit du seigneur (French) [drwa dy sɛɲœr]
n
(Historical Terms) in feudal times, the right of a lord to have sexual intercourse with a vassal's bride on her wedding night
[from French, literally: the right of the lord]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/droit+du+seigneur

Christian European lords would take away the virginity of another man's bride. Now that is sick.

So Falah is this still a game of who can google the most irrelevant examples?

Why are you afraid to discuss the role of Islamic law in legalising rape and pedophilia?

Islam legalises neither, and you know it.

OK Falah, can you explain whether a husband has to get his wife's permission to have sex with her?

Does a master have to get his slave's permission to have sex with her?

If you capture a woman on the battlefield, do you have to ask her permission before having sex with her? Or do you just have to check with your superior officer in case they want to go first?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

OK Falah, can you explain whether a husband has to get his wife's permission to have sex with her?

Does your Bible say that a man must gain his wife's permssion? What about Australian law?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-27/rape-high-court-elderly/2946566

Why would a woman marry a man who she did not want to have sex with? Doesn't make sense?

freediver wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 8:16am:

Does a master have to get his slave's permission to have sex with her?

What does the your own Bible say on the issue?

Taking a concubine as well as a wife is permissible according to the law of Abraham . Prophet Abraham did that with Hagar, when he took her as a concubine when he was married to Sarah.

The Arabic word for concubine is sariyyah from the word sirr, which means marriage.

In Islam, concubines are treated with dignity, and are not prostitued out as females slaves are usually treated in other cultures.

Let us look at how Christian Europeans treat slave women.

The Nazis used to prostitute their slaves:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_camp_brothels_in_World_War_II

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,459704,00.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II

Across Europe, aristocrats would take the virginity of their slaves brides on their wedding nights in a practice known as "prima nocta".

When the Soviets defeated Germany in 1944, millions of German women were raped by Russian soldiers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080493/Stalins-army-rapists-The-brutal-war-crime-Russia-Germany-tried-ignore.html

The Christian Crusaders were evil rapists:

The Crusaders were well known for raping the inhabitants of towns and villages they attacked. It was an assault on Saladin's own sister, which culminated in Saladin recapturing the Holy Land from the Crusaders.

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The Crusades turned into campaigns of slaughter, rape, and pillage...
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48950796.html

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...Marching beyond Nicæa, a French contingent ravaged the countryside. They looted property, and robbed, tortured, raped and murdered the mainly Christian inhabitants of the country, reportedly roasting babies on spits...

...the women had been murdered in their tents, pierced through the belly by lances. Time and time again Muslims who surrendered were killed or sold into slavery. This treatment was applied to combatants and citizens alike: women, children, the old, the infirm — anyone and everyone...

...At Albara the population was totally extirpated, the town then being resettled with Christians, and the mosque converted into a church. Often, the Christians offered to spare those who capitulated, but it was an unwise Muslim who accepted such a promise. A popular technique was to promise protection to all who took refuge in a particular building within the besieged city. Then after the battle, the Christians had an easy time: the men could be massacred and the women and children sold into slavery without having to carry out searches. Clerics justified this by claiming that Christians were not bound by promises made to infidels, even if sworn in the name of God. At Maarat an-Numan the pattern was repeated. The slaughter continued for three days, both Christian and Muslim accounts agreeing on the main points...The Christian account describes how the Muslims" bodies were dismembered. Some...were cut up to eat. The Muslim account mentions that over 100,000 were killed...

...When the crusaders captured Jerusalem on the 14 th July 1099, they massacred the inhabitants, Jews and Muslims alike, men, women and children. The killing continued all night and into the next day. Jews who took refuge in their synagogue were burned alive. Muslims sought refuge in the al-Aqsa mosque under the protection of a Christian banner. In the morning crusaders forced an entry and massacred them all, 70,000...

...The Temple of Solomon was so full of blood that it came up to the horses" bridles. The chronicler Raymond of Aguiliers described it as a just and wonderful judgement of God. Even before the killing was over the crusaders went to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre "rejoicing and weeping for joy"...Muslim prisoners were decapitated, shot with arrows, forced to jump from high towers, or burned. Some were tortured first. Neither was this an isolated incident. It was wholly typical. When the crusaders took Caesarea in 1101, many citizens fled to the Great Mosque and begged the Christians for mercy. At the end of the butchery the floor was a lake of blood. In the whole city only a few girls and infants survived. Soon afterwards, there was a similar massacre at Beirut. Such barbarity shocked the Eastern world and left an impression of the Christian West that has still not been forgotten in the third millennium...

...in addition to his abilities as a military leader, Saladin is renowned for his chivalry and merciful nature. It is known, for example, that in his struggles against the crusaders, he provided medical assistance on the battlefield to the wounded of both sides, and even allowed Christian physicians to visit Christian prisoners. Once the battle to retake Jerusalem was over, no one was killed or injured, and not a building was looted. The captives were permitted to ransom themselves, and those who could afford to do so ransomed their vassals as well. Many thousands could not afford their ransom and were held to be sold as slaves. The military monks, who could have used their vast wealth to save their fellow Christians from slavery, declined to do so. The head of the Church, the patriarch Heraclius, and his clerics looked after themselves. The Muslims saw Heraclius pay his ten dinars for his own ransom and leave the city bowed with the weight of the gold that he was carrying, followed by carts laden with other valuables. As the prisoners who had not been ransomed were led off to a life of slavery, Saladin's brother Malik al-Adil took pity. He asked his brother for 1,000 of them as a reward for his services, and when he was granted them he immediately gave them their liberty. This triggered further generosity amongst the victorious commanders, culminating in Saladin offering gifts from his own treasury to the Christian widows and orphans. As a contemporary historian has remarked, "His mercy and kindness were in strange contrast to the deeds of the Christian conquerors of the First Crusade".

In contrast to the generally honourable behaviour of the Muslims, the Christians repeatedly made promises under oath and them reneged upon them, often with the encouragement of the priesthood. In 1188 the King of Jerusalem, Guy, who had been captured by Saladin, was released. Guy had solemnly sworn that he would leave the country and never again take arms against the Muslims. Immediately, a cleric was found to release him from his oath. Despite this sort of behaviour, Muslim leaders generally stuck to their own promises. They were rather bemused by the cynical behaviour of the Western Christians. Often the cynicism worked to the Muslims" advantage. For example, Saladin was pleasantly surprised to find that Italian city states were prepared to sell him high quality weapons to be used against crusaders.

When the Emperor in Constantinople heard of the Muslim victory, he sent an embassy to congratulate its leaders. Eastern Christians had already generally allied themselves with the Muslims, regarding them as fairer and more civilised rulers than the followers of the Church of Rome. Now they asked to stay in Jerusalem, were allowed to do so, and gave "prodigious service" to their new masters.

http://www.medievalwarfare.info/crusades.htm

In the 1990's Christian Serbs raped and pillaged away:

http://roberthand.amplify.com/2010/07/12/serb-rape-camps-slow-genocide-of-bosnians/

http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/bosnia/rapes.html

http://articles.cnn.com/1999-07-01/world/9907_01_kosovo.rape_1_victim-crusades-kosovo-human-rights?_s=PM:WORLD

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Does your Bible say that a man must gain his wife's permssion? What about Australian law?

Australian law does not obligue women to have sex whenever her husband decress and does not list the valid reasons she is allowed to use for refusing sex. Neither does the bible as far as I know.

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Why would a woman marry a man who she did not want to have sex with? Doesn't make sense?

Is it Islam that rendered you incapable of telling the difference between rape and marriage, or were you always like that?

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What does the your own Bible say on the issue?

Let's start with what Islam says eh? After all, I am not the one promoting an outdated, barbaric legal system just because it is in an old book.

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In Islam, concubines are treated with dignity

Do you have to get their permission to have sex with them? If not, can you explain how to rape a slave in a dignified manner? Are you supposed to mutter in Arabic while you do it or something?

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The Nazis used to prostitute their slaves:

Oh well, I guess Islam really is progressive after all. Thanks Falah, I never would have guessed it is better than Nazism.

If you capture a woman on the battlefield, do you have to ask her permission before having sex with her? Or do you just have to check with your superior officer in case they want to go first?

Ask Abu about whether the west is currently at war with Islam...

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