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Member Run Boards >> Islam >> Sunny Islam spreads the love http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1328094885 Message started by salad in on Feb 1st, 2012 at 9:14pm |
Title: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by salad in on Feb 1st, 2012 at 9:14pm Quote:
How true and apt; Sunny Islam. Only go out when the sun is shining. |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:49am
A bit of propaganda a to label such a person as a "strict Muslim".
In islam, sex outside of marriage is considered one of the biggest sins. Quote:
He was so strict he had a girlfriend? Did the judge, who is familiar with the case, associate the crime with religion? Quote:
Posting an article like this is ridiculous. How many crimes are committed by Catholic priests or atheists or Jews everyday? |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:51am
BRITISH PUBLIC MOST LIKELY TO BLAME THE MEDIA FOR ISLAMOPHOBIA
A new ComRes survey on Islamophobia - the fear of the Muslim faith - reveals that people think that the media is most to blame for whipping up a climate of fear of Islam in the UK. People are twice as likely to say the media is to blame for Islamophobia (29%) than far-right groups (13%), or indeed Muslims themselves either abroad (14%) or in the UK (11%). Conservative Party Chairman, Sayeeda Warsi, recently said Islamophobia had „passed the dinner table test‟, becoming a social norm. Indeed, just 1% of people do not think that Islamophobia exists in the UK.... http://www.comres.co.uk/poll/499/ahmadiyya-muslim-association-uk-islamophobia-survey.htm |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 11:07am
Sex abuse 'widespread' in Catholic Church, Philadelphia judge says
The judge in the trial of two Catholic priests and a former priest declared her belief Tuesday that sexual abuse was "widespread" in the Catholic Church. Reviewing a list of questions to be asked of potential jurors, Common Pleas Court Judge M. Teresa Sarmina arrived at one that read "Do you believe child sex abuse is a widespread problem in the Catholic Church?" and hesitated. "Anybody that doesn't think there is widespread sexual abuse within the Catholic Church is living on another planet," she said, recommending the question be stricken from the list... http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/138454494.html?c=r |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 11:08am
Notorious pedophile priest jailed for three years for child pornography - VIDEO
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Notorious-pedophile-priest-jailed-for-three-years-for-child-pornography-138387299.html |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 11:09am
Hindu Priest held for rape attempt
A man who claimed to be a tantrik was arrested on Sunday for allegedly trying to rape a woman and rob her of jewellery in the Govindpuri area of southeast Delhi. The accused, Nand Lal Gupta, is a priest at a temple in Tughlakabad Extension. "The woman approached him for treatment of pain in her hand, but he allegedly tried to assault her sexually," said Ajay Chaudhry, addl CP, southeast. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-01-31/delhi/31009042_1_priest-attempt-woman |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 11:11am
French rabbi questioned in rape of minor females
A founder of the French Liberal Jewish movement was questioned on suspicion that he raped several female minors. French media reported Tuesday that Rabbi Daniel Farhi, 70, was questioned the same day at a police station in Paris. He has denied the accusations. The Liberal movement is associated with Reform Judaism... http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/01/18/3091256/french-rabbi-suspected-of-raping-minor-females |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 11:16am
Buddhist monk 'confesses' to rape of British tourist
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/cambodia/3482682/Buddhist-monk-confesses-to-rape-of-British-tourist.html Buddhist monk charged with raping Australian http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/buddhist-monk-charged-with-raping-australian/story-e6frfkp9-1111112934035 Buddhist monk accused of raping teen http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8319187 |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 3:24pm falah wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:49am:
If sex outside of marriage is a sin as you claim then explain the coptic christian sex slave Mohammad had who gave him his only son Ibrahim? Were Mo and Maria married? Does the Quran tell you 91 times to follow the example Mohammad set? Sex slaves are halal for muslim men if they are not married to their slave is this considered sex outside of marriage? Quote:
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Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by freediver on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 5:58pm
Falah wants to pretend that this is a game of see who can find the most examples of people of other belief systems committing crimes. That is why he is so loathe to discuss the relevant aspects of Islamic law.
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Sounds like about a quarter of them have asked local Muslims for their thoughts on things like death for apostasty, rape etc. Or at least, a quarter have persisted till they got a straight answer. Quote:
How does Islam prevent illegal sex abuse? By legalising it. Quote:
Muslims often forget to mention that sex slaves are permitted. Or, so as not to confuse Abu's linguistic analties, you can have sex with slaves, so long you do not refer to them as sex slaves, as that might imply there is something wrong about it. There is no concept of consent in Islam, from a slave or a wife. Sex with your husband/owner is a duty. falah wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:49am:
Posting an article like this is ridiculous. How many crimes are committed by Catholic priests or atheists or Jews everyday? [/quote] According to Abu, rape is totally legit in the context of war. Abu also thinks that the west has been at war with the Muslim world for a century or so. You do the math. |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by salad in on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:52am falah wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:49am:
Your entries about Catholic priests are correct. However, Islam promotes itself as a religion of peace. It is a religion that respects women. That is not the case. Mr Sunny Islam an alleged holy book that allows him to act in the manner he did. Why? |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by freediver on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:58am
Apparently it was a sight improvement on tribal Arab lifestyle 1400 years ago. How can you argue with that?
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Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by Yadda on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 12:10pm freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 5:58pm:
How does Islam prevent illegal sex abuse? By legalising it. [/quote] LOL Touche' FD. +++ Mohammed, from the Hadith..... ".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me:" hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062 Mohammed claimed that his carnal lust, was 'sanctified' [made 'holy'] by Allah himself. "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Koran 33.50 "O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." Koran 66.1 |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by Yadda on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 1:53pm Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 12:10pm:
Google; pedophilia marriages, islam, sharia Within all jurisdictions where the Sharia 'legal' system is 'mainstream', paedophilia [i.e. HAVING SEX WITH CHILDREN] is formally 'legitimised' in [ISLAMIC] marriage law. ISLAM [i.e. ISLAMIC law], makes it 'lawful' for men of all ages, to have sex with small children. Q. And who would deny, that ISLAMIC law is facilitating the rape of small children ? A. Only moslems. Dictionary; facilitate = = make easy or easier. +++ Only in islam.... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1233704211/9#9 Quote:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1231993677/36#36 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1315270914/16#16 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1236217597/2#2 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1302177029/3#3 more examples, different country...... Google; Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage Google; site:http://www.jihadwatch.org 8 years old marriage saudi arabia |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 6:59pm
Your accusations what make more sense if the Western world could make up its mind on what a child actually is.
Western society has constantly changed its mind on what is a child. In the Netherlands prostitution is completely legal for 16 year-olds. In England, 6 year-olds were sent down coal mines or up chimneys until fairly recently. In the US, people under the age of 21 are not allowed to drink alcohol. In the US a 14 year-old can get married. In much of European history, reaching puberty was a sign of a person being old enough to marry. As for the issue of concubines, many of the prohets in the Bible had concubines; Abraham, David, Solomon, etc. Having concubines has been practiced in most great civilisations, and was practiced in Christian Europe. The European Christians went a bit further than concubinage with aristocrats demanding prima nocta (first night with the virgin brides of their serfs) droit du seigneur (French) [drwa dy sɛɲœr] n (Historical Terms) in feudal times, the right of a lord to have sexual intercourse with a vassal's bride on her wedding night [from French, literally: the right of the lord] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/droit+du+seigneur Christian European lords would take away the virginity of another man's bride. Now that is sick. |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by freediver on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 7:11pm
So Falah is this still a game of who can google the most irrelevant examples?
Why are you afraid to discuss the role of Islamic law in legalising rape and pedophilia? |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:47am
Islam legalises neither, and you know it.
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Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by freediver on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:16am
OK Falah, can you explain whether a husband has to get his wife's permission to have sex with her?
Does a master have to get his slave's permission to have sex with her? If you capture a woman on the battlefield, do you have to ask her permission before having sex with her? Or do you just have to check with your superior officer in case they want to go first? |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by falah on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:11am freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:16am:
Does your Bible say that a man must gain his wife's permssion? What about Australian law? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-27/rape-high-court-elderly/2946566 Why would a woman marry a man who she did not want to have sex with? Doesn't make sense? freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:16am:
What does the your own Bible say on the issue? Taking a concubine as well as a wife is permissible according to the law of Abraham . Prophet Abraham did that with Hagar, when he took her as a concubine when he was married to Sarah. The Arabic word for concubine is sariyyah from the word sirr, which means marriage. In Islam, concubines are treated with dignity, and are not prostitued out as females slaves are usually treated in other cultures. Let us look at how Christian Europeans treat slave women. The Nazis used to prostitute their slaves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_camp_brothels_in_World_War_II http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,459704,00.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II Across Europe, aristocrats would take the virginity of their slaves brides on their wedding nights in a practice known as "prima nocta". When the Soviets defeated Germany in 1944, millions of German women were raped by Russian soldiers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080493/Stalins-army-rapists-The-brutal-war-crime-Russia-Germany-tried-ignore.html The Christian Crusaders were evil rapists: The Crusaders were well known for raping the inhabitants of towns and villages they attacked. It was an assault on Saladin's own sister, which culminated in Saladin recapturing the Holy Land from the Crusaders. Quote:
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In the 1990's Christian Serbs raped and pillaged away: http://roberthand.amplify.com/2010/07/12/serb-rape-camps-slow-genocide-of-bosnians/ http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/bosnia/rapes.html http://articles.cnn.com/1999-07-01/world/9907_01_kosovo.rape_1_victim-crusades-kosovo-human-rights?_s=PM:WORLD |
Title: Re: Sunny Islam spreads the love Post by freediver on Feb 4th, 2012 at 1:20pm Quote:
Australian law does not obligue women to have sex whenever her husband decress and does not list the valid reasons she is allowed to use for refusing sex. Neither does the bible as far as I know. Quote:
Is it Islam that rendered you incapable of telling the difference between rape and marriage, or were you always like that? Quote:
Let's start with what Islam says eh? After all, I am not the one promoting an outdated, barbaric legal system just because it is in an old book. Quote:
Do you have to get their permission to have sex with them? If not, can you explain how to rape a slave in a dignified manner? Are you supposed to mutter in Arabic while you do it or something? Quote:
Oh well, I guess Islam really is progressive after all. Thanks Falah, I never would have guessed it is better than Nazism. If you capture a woman on the battlefield, do you have to ask her permission before having sex with her? Or do you just have to check with your superior officer in case they want to go first? Ask Abu about whether the west is currently at war with Islam... |
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