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Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:36am
 
Iraqi woman had 80 women raped then recruited as suicide bombers
From correspondents in Baghdad
Agence France-Presse
February 04, 2009 09:15am
Mastermind ... Samira Ahmed Jassim confessed to organising the rape of 80 women so she could recruit them as suicide bombers / AP
Woman arranged rape of more than 80 women
Used rape to recruit them as suicide bombers
Female suicide attacks increasing
A WOMAN suspected of recruiting more than 80 female suicide bombers has confessed to organising their rapes so she could later convince them that martyrdom was the only way to escape the shame.

Samira Jassam, 51, was arrested by Iraqi police and confessed to recruiting the women and orchestrating dozens of attacks.

In a video confession, she explained how she had mentally prepared the women for martyrdom operations, passed them on to terrorists who provided explosives, and then took the bombers to their targets.

"We arrested Samira Jassim, known as 'Um al-Mumenin', the mother of the believers, who was responsible for recruiting 80 women'', Major General Qassim Atta said.

"She confessed her responsibility for these actions, and she confirmed that 28 attempts had been made in one of the terrorists' strongholds,'' he said.

Samira Jassim was arrested on January 21. She is allegedly linked to the Ansar al-Sunnah insurgent group.

Daily Telegraph, 4 Feb 2009 Two of the attacks for which Samira Jassim admitted responsibility in the video confession took place in Diyala province, in central Iraq, which is considered one of the most dangerous areas of the country.

The Associated Press reports US military figures indicate at least 36 female suicide bombers attempted or carried out 32 attacks last year. Women are often allowed through military checkpoints without being searched, making it easier for them to hide explosives under their traditional robes.
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Reply #1 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:01am
 
I don't believe it!!!!

It can't be true!

It must be a Zionist inspired lie!

Was Mossad involved?

I bet Mossad was responsible!
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Horrific.

Will any muslim worth the name, lay the blame at the feet of ISLAM?

No.

What inspired this woman, Samira Jassam, to conduct herself in this merciless way?




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 10:41am
 
Only in islam....

Indeed.


In the past 20 years,
2 million people
[many of them Christians] were exterminated by Arab ISLAMIST militias in Darfur.

Where is the outrage over this prolonged violence, against black muslims and black non-muslims, by Arab muslims?

Google,
darfur "2 million" dead "20 years"
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=darfur+%222+million%22+dead+%2220+years%...






For 6 years thousands of rockets are fired into southern Israel, from Gaza.

Not a peep from the UN, or the world 'community'.

Israel warns, and warns, and warns Hamas.

Yet Hamas is not constrained.

Finally Israel responds.

Perhaps 1300 Gazan's die [which i regret the loss of innocent life].

We immediately see the condemnation of Israel, for the use of 'disproportionate' force, in defending civilians in southern Israel.

But what of the 2 million who died at teh hands of Arab muslims in Darfur????



This world is sick.


WHITE is BLACK

And BLACK is WHITE

UP is DOWN

And DOWN is UP






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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #3 - Feb 4th, 2009 at 3:15pm
 
If it happened in any other culture than Islam, it would have been front page news, all around the world, but the sheer magnitude, and multitude of obscenely violent acts, carried out by muslims, in the name of Allah, has meant that atrocities like these just get accepted as part of the Islamic problem.

That anyone could be so totally evil, as to orchestrate the rape of women, so that they could then be more easily manipulated to commit suicide bombings is beyond my level of comprehension for how humans could behave, it just seems too unreal to be possible, but we have Islam to thank, for making it possible.

Sometimes I just despair at the evil acts that people carry out, whilst proclaiming they are deeply religious.

I have no time for religion, and consider it to be a generally evil influence in our world, but even starting from that position of distaste, even I am shocked, and sickened to my stomach at the barbarity of people like this woman.
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Reply #4 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 7:10am
 
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Will any muslim worth the name, lay the blame at the feet of ISLAM?


Why would it be blamed on Islam when Islam clearly makes rape a capital offence...
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Reply #5 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 7:19am
 
Well if it isn't the 3 wise monkeys all rolled up into one little muslim.

If anyone ever contemplated being a Muslim you are a prime example of why they should not become one.

braindead, brainwashed... deluded and obsessive.
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Reply #6 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 7:33am
 
Grendel,

Instead of the fumbled attempts to avoid answering my argument. Why don't you answer it?

If you think you have a better argument, present it. You don't do a very good job of representing your ideas, really.
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Reply #7 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 7:40am
 
What argument?
I already presented a better one.
You... on the other hand.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 12:13pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Feb 5th, 2009 at 7:10am:
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Will any muslim worth the name, lay the blame at the feet of ISLAM?


Why would it be blamed on Islam when
Islam clearly makes rape a capital offence
...


Anyone who has a Google page open, and 10 minutes, could quickly learn how bizarre such a claim is.

The word, 'Catmeat', comes to mind.

'Catmeat', was first discussed in a sermon in a mosque, in Australia, by a muslim cleric.








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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Homepage/rape9.gif


Symposium: To Rape an Unveiled Woman

......"A man sees a woman and she is not veiled. He thinks to himself: “Oh, I must rape her now.” "
"No matter how much I try to figure this out, I can’t. What’s the mindset here? If a person is upset that a woman is not veiled, it implies he wants some kind of supposed “morality.”
But if he is thirsting for purity, how does perpetrating a violent sexual atrocity against the “immoral” one fit into moralizing her and the rest of society
– and himself?"
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=473928E3-18E1-4E4E-ADF6-1AD7...



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #9 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 2:09pm
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 5th, 2009 at 12:13pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Feb 5th, 2009 at 7:10am:
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Will any muslim worth the name, lay the blame at the feet of ISLAM?


[abu claims....]
Islam clearly makes rape a capital offence
...


Anyone who has a Google page open, and 10 minutes, could quickly learn how bizarre such a claim is.






abu,

This 'woman', Nojoud Ali....

...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/Nojoud%20Muhammad%20Nasser.jpg
8-year-old girl seeks divorce in Yemen


....was raped by her husband.


The rapist was brought before a Sharia court in Yemen.

The rapist has not been executed, not yet, anyway.

Why not ??????????

Sharia 'justice', not up to punishing RAPISTS of little girls ????





April 11, 2008
8-year-old girl seeks divorce in Yemen

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/020644.php


April 16, 2008
Eight-year-old girl wins divorce in Yemen

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/020687.php


February 4, 2009
Schoolgirl divorcee!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/024704.php





THIS SHOCKING STORY HAS FINALLY BEEN PICKED UP BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA,

.....after being initially exposed by that 'hateful', anti-muslim web site, JIHAD WATCH [see the links above]
/sarc off

Schoolgirl divorcee, 10, launches book about shocking child bride ordeal

02nd February 2009

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1133865/Schoolgirl-divorcee-10...





+++++++++++




Islam is a lie and truth is killing it.

Posted by: Alaskan
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023681.php#c602782







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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #10 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 8:34pm
 
WAFA SULTAN [a Syrian born woman], SPEAKS ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN WITHIN ISLAM / SHARIA JURISDICTIONS.



February 5, 2009
Wafa Sultan: "The Subjugation of Women Reduces Them to a Level Lower Than Beasts"

.....Wafa Sultan: "If Islam really treated women with honor, we would see the positive consequences of that honor over the course of the past 14 centuries. Islam did not treat women with honor. On the contrary, it has distorted the concept of honor.
.....In my opinion, in the Arab countries in particular, you cannot say that the status of women has nothing to do with Islam.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/024717.php




Within countries that are under the influence of ISLAM / Sharia, is it ISLAM that is responsible for the shocking treatment of women, and the attitudes of muslim men towards women ?

If ISLAM is not responsible for the behaviour of muslim men [muslim men who declare their own status as devout muslims], then who is responsible?





Where-ever ISLAM has influence in a society, violence and injustice is prevalent.

Q.
Why won't muslims just accept reality, why won't muslims admit that ISLAM is a failed cultural system?

A.
Muslims always try to hide injustice [which reflects badly upon themselves, and ISLAM], because muslims are culturally programmed to always seek to hide what is shameful.




Devout muslims, ISLAMIST's, Jihadists - ISLAM
Shame vs. Guilt

Islamic cultures are shame based. Shame is a painful experience. To avoid shame you have to hide the source of shame. This means you must protect the image. Your entire self esteem and self worth depends on that image. When you are shamed you become violence. Violence is one way we humans deal with shame.
.....For Easterners, everything is about image and how others see us. The opposite of guilt is innocence. If your ethos is guilt based, you have an inner police that stops you from doing wrong because doing wrong makes you feel guilty.
If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image.
The opposite of shame is honor.
You can do wrong but as long as no one sees it, your image is not tarnished and you can still be seen as an honorable person.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017530.php#c428023
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina70723.htm



".....If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image."


.....and to avoid exposing what is TRUE.


Within ISLAM,
....TRUTH [which is shameful] does not 'exist'.

Within ISLAM,
....when shame exists, it must be hidden.








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Reply #11 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 8:45pm
 
Daniel Pearl's father has put it rather well. Who could have predicted seven years ago that evil was to br normalised by 2009.

Daniel Pearl and the Normalization of Evil

By JUDEA PEARL
This week marks the seventh anniversary of the murder of our son, former Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.
...
Neither he, nor the millions who were shocked by his murder, could have possibly predicted that seven years later his abductor, Omar Saeed Sheikh, according to several South Asian reports, would be planning terror acts from the safety of a Pakistani jail. Or that his murderer, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, now in Guantanamo, would proudly boast of his murder in a military tribunal in March 2007 to the cheers of sympathetic jihadi supporters. Or that this ideology of barbarism would be celebrated in European and American universities, fueling rally after rally for Hamas, Hezbollah and other heroes of "the resistance." Or that another kidnapped young man, Israeli Gilad Shalit, would spend his 950th day of captivity with no Red Cross visitation while world leaders seriously debate whether his kidnappers deserve international recognition.

No. Those around the world who mourned for Danny in 2002 genuinely hoped that Danny's murder would be a turning point in the history of man's inhumanity to man, and that the targeting of innocents to transmit political messages would quickly become, like slavery and human sacrifice, an embarrassing relic of a bygone era.

But somehow, barbarism, often cloaked in the language of "resistance," has gained acceptance in the most elite circles of our society.


And so. see the rest at the Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123362422088941893.html#printMode



Barbarians are tolareted, swaggering primitives are indulged, cuthroats are validated.
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Reply #12 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 8:53pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Feb 5th, 2009 at 7:10am:
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Will any muslim worth the name, lay the blame at the feet of ISLAM?


Why would it be blamed on Islam when Islam clearly makes rape a capital offence...


So why were assorted mufties bemoaning Skaf's 55 years? He was convicted of multiple rapes. They should have called for his execution.
But that would have been consistent.






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Reply #13 - Feb 5th, 2009 at 9:29pm
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 5th, 2009 at 8:34pm:
......If ISLAM is not responsible for the behaviour of muslim men [muslim men who declare their own status as devout muslims], then who is responsible?




Muslims are in denial.

To the muslim mind.....

ISLAM is perfect, so why does it need any reform?

Muslims are good ppl, muslims are all 'innocent' ppl, who are being slandered by 'unbelievers'.






Even the Koran confirms the perfection of muslims.....
.....so it is of course, true.
/sarc off

Muhammad, was the perfect man, and an example to be imitated by all muslim men.

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. "
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html#033.021



Muslims are a perfect people.....

"Ye [muslims] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110





...
SO, IF MUSLIMS ARE PERFECT, WHY SHOULD THEY TRY HARDER?



Why should ISLAM reform, when clearly, the guilt lays with the 'unbelievers' ????????
/sarc off






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Reply #14 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 3:18am
 
if this case is correct (we know that U.S/Iraqi interrogators use torture, torture usually gets people to say what you want them to say, not what the truth is), then her crimes are both against Islam and against Muslims (the girls who've been raped). How on earth you could consider them a weapon against Islam is beyond me.

Under Islam, if found guilty, she would  be sentenced to death, plain and simple. therefore to claim Islam condones her behaviour is just ridiculous.
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