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Message started by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm

Title: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm
There aren't many people left who are still willing to defend Islam. Going against that trend is Greg, who has recently become obsessed with using misleading statics and blatant lies to defend Muslim terrorists from accusations that they are (shock, horror) worse than other terrorist groups who do not seek to cause mass casualties.

For the most part, Greg sticks to quoting statistics that equate 9/11 with attacks with no deaths or injuries. For example:


greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:48pm:

moses wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:46pm:
The Europol report says:

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Yes - that's exactly what the Europol report says.


In other words, he is afraid to offer any opinion, meaning, or interpretation - just quotes of exactly what is said. Greg has probably made 1000 posts very similar to the above in the past month, in response to a variety of questions and criticism.

When he does attempt to think for himself, it quickly gets very stupid, for example:


greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 4:16pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:14pm:
Nothing more than what it says Greg. It does not, for example, mean that Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world, which is something you also said, though you are ashamed to admit it now.

Do you think you are solving some kind of problem by lying to people about the problem of Islamic terrorism?


Ashamed?  Not at all.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

One more time?


His evidence for this is a website from the EU which states, among other things, that Muslim terrorists account for nearly all deaths and most of the casualties due to terrorism in the EU - despite Muslims making up less than 4% of the population. When they publish Greg's preferred statistics that treat all attacks as equal regardless of death toll, Muslims are still the standout, being the only identifiable religious, political or ideological group to get their own category.

So far, when asked to explain how causing nearly all deaths and most of the casualties even when Muslims make up just a tiny minority leads him to conclude that jihadism is not the biggest terror problem, Greg can only retreat to parroting the misleading statistics.

Greg is also too scared to offer an opinion on whether it is misleading to endlessly parrot statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with other attacks that cause no deaths or injuries.

Here is an example of his tapdancing:


greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 1:16pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:51pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:40am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:48am:
Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.


Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?


I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.


Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading?


I'm sure Yadda would agree with me when I say that every attack by terrorists is a terrorist attack.

Would you agree too, FD?


Here is Gandalf getting in on the act:


polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 2:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 1:14pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:57pm:
Is 9/11 worse than a paint bomb?

Take your time Greg. Think for yourself.

What threat to freedom and democracy do you consider to be greater than Islam?


Does the Europol report mention paint bombs?

I must say, I didn't see that.

Did a word search of the document and everything.

What page number is that on?


Oh deary me, so not paintbombing, not graffiti... FD what can you invent next - litterbugs? making faces?


So basically, this is what people who defend Islam now stoop to - defending mass murder as being equivalent to attacks with no deaths or injuries.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by xeej on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:53pm
Poor old Greg and Grandalf, its all they can do now, the sinking ship comes to mind.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:56pm
Hod the press! Gandalf has conceded that it "might" be misleading to equate 9/11 with an attack in which no-one is killed or injured.


polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 2:47pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:51pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:40am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:48am:
Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.


Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?


I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.


Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading?


Possibly FD. Similar to pretending that actual attacks using actual bombs, including vehicle borne ones are in fact graffiti and paint bombs - wouldn't you say?


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by TheFunPolice on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:01pm
LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS.

IT'S A SPIRITUAL WAR AND PEOPLE LIKE GREGGY FULLY KNOW THAT!!

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm

What lies, FD?

I'm curious.

The Europol report says that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Are you calling them liars, FD?


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm
Here's three of them:


Quote:
Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.


Greg are you hoping to garner sympathy for Muslims by defending Muslim terrorists with misleading statistics?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
What lies, FD?

I'm curious.

The Europol report says that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Are you calling them liars, FD?


Waiting for your answer, FD.

Are Europol lying, or are you?

I'm still very curious.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:47pm
This is what it takes to defend Islam.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:48pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
This is what it takes to defend Islam.


Waiting for your answer, FD.

Are Europol lying, or are you?

I'm still very curious.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:48pm
Gandalf must be proud to have you on board.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:50pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Gandalf must be proud to have you on board.


Is anyone proud of you, FD?

I'm curious.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Auggie on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:54pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
There aren't many people left who are still willing to defend Islam.


That's because you've banned them all.... Coincidence?

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 15th, 2018 at 9:08pm

Auggie wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
There aren't many people left who are still willing to defend Islam.


That's because you've banned them all.... Coincidence?

:D :D :D :D :D :D



Lol    ;D

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:28am
Greg is standing up for Islamic terrorism again:


greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:04am:

issuevoter wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:39am:
The SBS editorial policy is pro-Islam, and anti-European.


Fun fact: the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe aren't Islamic.

In fact, they only make up 16% of all attacks.

For those who failed maths at school - which is probably most of you white-supremacist, Islamophobes - that means that 84% of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Islam.

There ya go   ;)


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
This is what it takes to defend Islam.


Waiting for your answer, FD.

Are Europol lying, or are you?

I'm still very curious.


Has FD answered you yet, Greggery?

It usually takes some time.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:45am

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
This is what it takes to defend Islam.


Waiting for your answer, FD.

Are Europol lying, or are you?

I'm still very curious.


Has FD answered you yet, Greggery?

It usually takes some time.


Not yet.

I'm sure he'll get back to me soon, though.

He's good like that.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:56am
Europol are absolutely correct when they point out that Muslim terrorists account for nearly all deaths and most of the casualties due to terrorism in the EU.

You are misrepresenting the situation by omitting this fact and equating an attack with no casualties with a mass-casualty attack. Of course, this sort of deception is expected from people who attempt to defend Islam.

Do you see how your cherry-picking of the Europol statistics is misleading?

More apologetics from Greg:


greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The body count is extremely high for the Jihadist attacks, and I've never ignored that fact.


Yes you do Greg. You leave it out every time you mislead people with statistics and spineless apologetics, and for the most part you ignore questions put to you about it.

Why are you so desperate to mislead people about Islamic terrorism?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:02pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:56am:
Europol are absolutely correct when they point out that Muslim terrorists account for nearly all deaths and most of the casualties due to terrorism in the EU.

You are misrepresenting the situation by omitting this fact and equating an attack with no casualties with a mass-casualty attack. Of course, this sort of deception is expected from people who attempt to defend Islam.

Do you see how your cherry-picking of the Europol statistics is misleading?

More apologetics from Greg:


greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:36am:
The body count is extremely high for the Jihadist attacks, and I've never ignored that fact.


Yes you do Greg. You leave it out every time you mislead people with statistics and spineless apologetics, and for the most part you ignore questions put to you about it.

Why are you so desperate to mislead people about Islamic terrorism?


Just to confirm:

84% of all attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, FD?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:21pm
Yes, but I don't think FD believes Europol, Greggery. In another thread, he said they're cowardly PC race traitors who will be hung for high treason in the fullness of time.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:23pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Yes, but I don't think FD believes Europol, Greggery. In another thread, he said they're cowardly PC race traitors who will be hung for high treason in the fullness of time.


Ah.

Did he say anything about graffiti?


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Yes, but I don't think FD believes Europol, Greggery. In another thread, he said they're cowardly PC race traitors who will be hung for high treason in the fullness of time.


Ah.

Did he say anything about graffiti?


He did. He said if it glorifies the white race it's not graffiti, it's art. You ask him.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Secret Wars on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Yes, but I don't think FD believes Europol, Greggery. In another thread, he said they're cowardly PC race traitors who will be hung for high treason in the fullness of time.


Ah.

Did he say anything about graffiti?


I am sure it can be mentioned again.  Scuttle off and find that FBI report you used, it was all in there.

Or is that report a little inconvenient for you now, an equivalency in choppy choppy murder and grafittee crime to high a hurdle for even an apologist cretin like yourself to leap over?

So that report was dropped. And now you have another one to cherry pick and ignore the inconvenient truths...like a body count.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:31pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Yes, but I don't think FD believes Europol, Greggery. In another thread, he said they're cowardly PC race traitors who will be hung for high treason in the fullness of time.


Ah.

Did he say anything about graffiti?


He did. He said if it glorifies the white race it's not graffiti, it's art. You ask him.


Well, FD's always been an art lover.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:33pm

Secret Wars wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Yes, but I don't think FD believes Europol, Greggery. In another thread, he said they're cowardly PC race traitors who will be hung for high treason in the fullness of time.


Ah.

Did he say anything about graffiti?


I am sure it can be mentioned again.  Scuttle off and find that FBI report you used, it was all in there.

Or is that report a little inconvenient for you now, an equivalency in choppy choppy murder and grafittee crime to high a hurdle for even an apologist cretin like yourself to leap over?

So that report was dropped. And now you have another one to cherry pick and ignore the inconvenient truths...like a body count.


This is a Europol report, dear:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018

It says that 84% of all terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism.

It makes no mention of graffiti though.

Wouldn't you agree?




Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Yes, but I don't think FD believes Europol, Greggery. In another thread, he said they're cowardly PC race traitors who will be hung for high treason in the fullness of time.


Ah.

Did he say anything about graffiti?


I am sure it can be mentioned again.  Scuttle off and find that FBI report you used, it was all in there.

Or is that report a little inconvenient for you now, an equivalency in choppy choppy murder and grafittee crime to high a hurdle for even an apologist cretin like yourself to leap over?

So that report was dropped. And now you have another one to cherry pick and ignore the inconvenient truths...like a body count.


This is a Europol report, dear:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018

It says that 84% of all terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism.

It makes no mention of graffiti though.

Wouldn't you agree?


It's jaywalking now, can you believe these Islamic apologists?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 30th, 2018 at 1:41pm
So this is what it takes to defend Islam eh?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:33pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 12:21pm:
Yes, but I don't think FD believes Europol, Greggery. In another thread, he said they're cowardly PC race traitors who will be hung for high treason in the fullness of time.


Ah.

Did he say anything about graffiti?


I am sure it can be mentioned again.  Scuttle off and find that FBI report you used, it was all in there.

Or is that report a little inconvenient for you now, an equivalency in choppy choppy murder and grafittee crime to high a hurdle for even an apologist cretin like yourself to leap over?

So that report was dropped. And now you have another one to cherry pick and ignore the inconvenient truths...like a body count.


This is a Europol report, dear:

https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/main-reports/european-union-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2018-tesat-2018

It says that 84% of all terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism.

It makes no mention of graffiti though.

Wouldn't you agree?


SW, you there?

Did you find anything in the report about graffiti?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:51pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
So this is what it takes to defend Islam eh?


I know. Abu once said that the white race needs to be completely extinguished - after the correct forms are submitted and authorised, of course. You've got this in the Wiki.

Now the apologists are comparing the deaths of billions of decent white people with jaywalking, can you believe it?

Typical.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Bobby on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm

Quote:
I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.


Of course not. That would make it harder for you to mislead people in defence of Islamic terrorists.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Bobby on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Aussie on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:34pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

Quote:
I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.


Of course not. That would make it harder for you to mislead people in defence of Islamic terrorists.


I could go either way on this.  I am assuming Peccarry has not included the number who perished in 9/11 and he has dealt with it as a single event.  Well he is literally correct...it was an attack...a co-ordinated one....but still.....one.  A very well organised one.  So it counts as an attack.

The far more relevant point for me is that 9/11 was spawned in Saudi Arabia, the very Arab pricks whose toes Donald is sucking with billions.

If ever there was any part of Arabia I would attack, it would be the House of Saud.....big time.  I would wipe them out in a nano second and let the chips fall.

The Sauds attacked on 9/11...not Islam.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 30th, 2018 at 5:33pm
He has not included the death toll from any terrorist attacks. He is equating 9/11 with attacks in which not a single person died.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Aussie on Dec 30th, 2018 at 5:42pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
He has not included the death toll from any terrorist attacks. He is equating 9/11 with attacks in which not a single person died.


You'll have to explain that.  Is it like Shintos attacking Pearl Harbour...and elsewhere in the Pacific?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Aussie on Dec 30th, 2018 at 5:44pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
He has not included the death toll from any terrorist attacks. He is equating 9/11 with attacks in which not a single person died.


No comment on the House of Saud, Effendi?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 30th, 2018 at 5:45pm
Read the opening post Aussie.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Aussie on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:09pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 5:45pm:
Read the opening post Aussie.


I'm never too keen to read your quote bombs....in a new Thread you start dredging up posts made by people in other Threads.  You congregate them in a new Thread Title taking them out of the context in which they were posted.  It is a trademark of yours Effendi.


Quote:
So basically, this is what people who defend Islam now stoop to - defending mass murder as being equivalent to attacks with no deaths or injuries.


Has anyone said that 9/11 was not mass murder? Of course it was...and I place the blame where it lies...right inside the House of Saud.  Zero to do with Islam.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:31pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
He has not included the death toll from any terrorist attacks. He is equating 9/11 with attacks in which not a single person died.


I have not included the death toll from terrorist attacks, because I am not discussing death tolls.

I am discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe in 2017.

And, the vast majority of violent terrorist attacks in Europe in 2017 were not carried out by Jihadists.

So, the question is why do you refuse to acknowledge the 84% of violent terrorist attacks that have nothing to do with Jihadism?

Is some terrorism okay with you?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Bobby on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by cods on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



it is hard to ignore stats  greg.... but do you stats well us HOW MANY DEATHS   each violent group is responsible for.?

to me thats more important than... what and why..

I cant make any sense of any group or person that wants to murder en mass.....

perhaps you have an answer.. you seem to know a lot about stats..

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


Bobby: yes or no?


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Rhino on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:46pm
Gotta watch out for those violent water bomb and paint attacks. That's what we should be concerned about.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Bobby on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm
Greggy,
the answer is no because the overwhelming number of tragic deaths are caused by Muslims.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Greggy,
the answer is no because the overwhelming number of tragic deaths are caused by Muslims.


You're wrong.

I suggest you read the report again.

It says that Jihadists are only responsible for 16% of attacks.

So, why are you ignoring the other 84%?

Why are you an apologist for terrorism?

Are you a right-wing terrorist, Bobby?



Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.





Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.


It's not an argument - I'm just stating the facts: the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Now, why did you change the subject to spray painting?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.


It's not an argument - I'm just stating the facts: the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Now, why did you change the subject to spray painting?

I'm curious.

When the neo Nazis rundown 90 people in a truck,  shoot up pop and rock concerts while  bringing down  two skyscrapers killing thousands of people  then I'll lump them all together like you do.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:49pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.


It's not an argument - I'm just stating the facts: the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Now, why did you change the subject to spray painting?

I'm curious.

When the neo Nazis rundown 90 people in a truck,  shoot up pop and rock concerts while  bringing down  two skyscrapers killing thousands of people  then I'll lump them all together like you do.


Apologist.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.


It's not an argument - I'm just stating the facts: the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Now, why did you change the subject to spray painting?

I'm curious.

When the neo Nazis rundown 90 people in a truck,  shoot up pop and rock concerts while  bringing down  two skyscrapers killing thousands of people  then I'll lump them all together like you do.


Apologist.

Slovenian.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 30th, 2018 at 8:26pm

Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.


It's not an argument - I'm just stating the facts: the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Now, why did you change the subject to spray painting?

I'm curious.

When the neo Nazis rundown 90 people in a truck,  shoot up pop and rock concerts while  bringing down  two skyscrapers killing thousands of people  then I'll lump them all together like you do.


Apologist.

Slovenian.


Now now, if it wasn't for your Slovenian ethno-nationalist terrorists, there would be no state of Slovenia.

Just a bunch of jolly Yugos.

Could we say the same for the Danes? How about the Aussies?

Which terrorist group do you belong to, old boy?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:17pm

Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.


It's not an argument - I'm just stating the facts: the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Now, why did you change the subject to spray painting?

I'm curious.

When the neo Nazis rundown 90 people in a truck,  shoot up pop and rock concerts while  bringing down  two skyscrapers killing thousands of people  then I'll lump them all together like you do.


Apologist.

Slovenian.


You love the alleged child rapist's Slovenian hooker, though.

Funny that.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:48pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.


It's not an argument - I'm just stating the facts: the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Now, why did you change the subject to spray painting?

I'm curious.

When the neo Nazis rundown 90 people in a truck,  shoot up pop and rock concerts while  bringing down  two skyscrapers killing thousands of people  then I'll lump them all together like you do.


Apologist.

Slovenian.


Now now, if it wasn't for your Slovenian ethno-nationalist terrorists, there would be no state of Slovenia.

Just a bunch of jolly Yugos.

Could we say the same for the Danes? How about the Aussies?

Which terrorist group do you belong to, old boy?



Soren, I believe belongs to that bunch of splitters, the Danes Downunder Front for the Liberation of Australia, Karnal.  That is when he isn't receiving his medication...   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:51pm
Greg why are you so eager to defend Islamic terrorists with misleading statistics?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:00pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
Greg why are you so eager to defend Islamic terrorists with misleading statistics?


You haven't proved they are misleading, FD.  Until you prove to us that EuroPol has been naughty and telling porky-pies, you're just (as per usual) taking bullshit, throwing mud in the hope that some of it will stick.  Greg has been playing you like a fiddle and you haven't proved a thing yet.  Keep trying, it's amusing, watching you dance to his tune.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:12pm
Brian do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Greggy is an Islamic terrorist apologist trying
to downplay the number of mass casualties caused by them.


I'm not discussing casualties, Booby.

I'm discussing the total number of violent terrorist attacks in Europe (specifically in 2017).

And, the 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?

I'm curious.



Your curiosity extends to other matters pertaining to your femininity -
not Muslims.  ;D


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Do you agree with this, or are you suggesting that the report has been falsified?



Greggy,
we can all see through your weak argument.
I think you're only trying to bait us to get attention.
How many people did the Islamists kill compared to the skinheads Pecca? Post those stats  and I'll take your argument seriously.

The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Bobby?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


The 2018 Europol report shows that the vast majority (84%) of violent terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017 had nothing to do with Jihadism.

Is that correct, Mr Hammer?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Islamic terrorism is a bit different to many other groups who commit terrorism. Most it's non lethal tactics, many it's targeted killings. Islamists want to kill anybody and everybody . Old people , children, black,  white and purple. That's why people take it very seriously. This isn't spray painting slogans pecca.


Why are you talking about spray painting slogans?

That's not what I'm discussing.

I'm discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the Europol report shows that 84% of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

First the subject is changed to casualties, and now it's changed to spray painting.

This is what you do every single time you're proven wrong.

You're so predictable.

A scumbag jihadist splattered 90 people in France with a truck Pecca. That's why I find your argument so infantile.


It's not an argument - I'm just stating the facts: the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Jihadism.

Now, why did you change the subject to spray painting?

I'm curious.

When the neo Nazis rundown 90 people in a truck,  shoot up pop and rock concerts while  bringing down  two skyscrapers killing thousands of people  then I'll lump them all together like you do.


Apologist.

Slovenian.


Now now, if it wasn't for your Slovenian ethno-nationalist terrorists, there would be no state of Slovenia.

Just a bunch of jolly Yugos.

Could we say the same for the Danes? How about the Aussies?

Which terrorist group do you belong to, old boy?



Soren, I believe belongs to that bunch of splitters, the Danes Downunder Front for the Liberation of Australia, Karnal.  That is when he isn't receiving his medication...   ::)


Well, I hope he's in their marvellous terrorist organisation.

You know, the pacifist one. Unlike the Muselman.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by .JaSin. on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:53pm
You gotta forgive GregPecker Freediver.
He is a premature ejaculation for the Moslem sympathy.
They don't deserve any sympathy atm as they will soon do to the French, what the German's did to the Jews.
It's gonna be a genocide - live on Fox!

Once the Messiah for Islam comes out of France - the Moslems will relinquish all 'Empire/Military' existence and put down their weapons, etc.

After this, we might feel sorry for the Moslems - because it will be Italy's turn to give up the Holy Ghost of Christianity and it will turn on the unarmed Moslems with absolute genocide, hunting them down and endeavouring to wipe them from the earth. Afterall - Italy's (MAFIA) will think its doing the planet a justice to justify its own atrocity.

The Moslems will plea to Allah to save them and while all the world (except one nation) ignore their plight.
...at this time, GregPecs would probably change and hate them  ::)  ;D

Only Israel (ironic huh?  ;)) will come to save the Moslems from total destruction and attack Italy and destroy its Vatican to dust!

The process hasn't ended.
The last passage is the British one.
For Britain will have to face up to a United Islam + Israel front (IstarI) and well, I bet you can't guess who is going to win that one  ;)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:02am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
Greg why are you so eager to defend Islamic terrorists with misleading statistics?


You haven't proved they are misleading, FD.  Until you prove to us that EuroPol has been naughty and telling porky-pies, you're just (as per usual) taking bullshit, throwing mud in the hope that some of it will stick.  Greg has been playing you like a fiddle and you haven't proved a thing yet.  Keep trying, it's amusing, watching you dance to his tune.    ::) ::)


"misleading"   ;D

Those statistics are as accurate as one can get.



Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Rhino on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:02am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
Greg why are you so eager to defend Islamic terrorists with misleading statistics?


You haven't proved they are misleading, FD.  Until you prove to us that EuroPol has been naughty and telling porky-pies, you're just (as per usual) taking bullshit, throwing mud in the hope that some of it will stick.  Greg has been playing you like a fiddle and you haven't proved a thing yet.  Keep trying, it's amusing, watching you dance to his tune.    ::) ::)


"misleading"   ;D

Those statistics are as accurate as one can get.


Oh dear.

Quote:
Europol's reports do not provide a breakdown of the proportion of attacks that have been completed or the type of damage inflicted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe




Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:16am
Next line:

"According to these data the vast majority of terrorist attacks in the EU between 2006 and 2013 are affiliated with ethno-national or separatist motives".

Lol   ;D

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:02am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:00pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
Greg why are you so eager to defend Islamic terrorists with misleading statistics?


You haven't proved they are misleading, FD.  Until you prove to us that EuroPol has been naughty and telling porky-pies, you're just (as per usual) taking bullshit, throwing mud in the hope that some of it will stick.  Greg has been playing you like a fiddle and you haven't proved a thing yet.  Keep trying, it's amusing, watching you dance to his tune.    ::) ::)


"misleading"   ;D

Those statistics are as accurate as one can get.




I did not say they weren't accurate. I said they were misleading. Again, not sure how to dumb this down any further for you.

Why are you so eager to defend Islamic terrorism with misleading statistics?


Quote:
Europol's reports do not provide a breakdown of the proportion of attacks that have been completed or the type of damage inflicted.


Except to point out that Islamic terrorism is by far the biggest problem, causing nearly all deaths and most casualties.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:20am

"In 2017, British intelligence MI5 said that Northern Ireland is the most concentrated area of terrorist activity "probably anywhere in Europe", with weekly threats from dissident Irish republicans".

;)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Bobby on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:24am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:20am:
"In 2017, British intelligence MI5 said that Northern Ireland is the most concentrated area of terrorist activity "probably anywhere in Europe", with weekly threats from dissident Irish republicans".

;)




Except to point out that Islamic terrorism is by far the biggest problem,
causing nearly all deaths and most casualties.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:28am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:20am:
"In 2017, British intelligence MI5 said that Northern Ireland is the most concentrated area of terrorist activity "probably anywhere in Europe", with weekly threats from dissident Irish republicans".

;)




Except to point out that Islamic terrorism is by far the biggest problem,
causing nearly all deaths and most casualties.


I'm not talking about casualties, Booby - I'm talking about the total number of attacks.

Jihadist = 16%

All others = 84%

84 is a much bigger number than 16, Booby.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Bobby on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:36am
Greggy - you're disingenuous and you know it - you troll.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:42am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:36am:
Greggy - you're disingenuous and you know it - you troll.


Which is the bigger number, Bobby:

84, or 16?



Take your time.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 31st, 2018 at 11:23am
Year 9 maths, innit.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31st, 2018 at 11:36am

Karnal wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 11:23am:
Year 9 maths, innit.


Looks like Bobby didn't get that far.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 31st, 2018 at 11:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:28am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:20am:
"In 2017, British intelligence MI5 said that Northern Ireland is the most concentrated area of terrorist activity "probably anywhere in Europe", with weekly threats from dissident Irish republicans".

;)




Except to point out that Islamic terrorism is by far the biggest problem,
causing nearly all deaths and most casualties.


I'm not talking about casualties, Booby - I'm talking about the total number of attacks.

Jihadist = 16%

All others = 84%

84 is a much bigger number than 16, Booby.



Greg why are you so keen to defend Islamic terrorism with misleading statistics?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 31st, 2018 at 11:47am

freediver wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 11:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:28am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 10:20am:
"In 2017, British intelligence MI5 said that Northern Ireland is the most concentrated area of terrorist activity "probably anywhere in Europe", with weekly threats from dissident Irish republicans".

;)




Except to point out that Islamic terrorism is by far the biggest problem,
causing nearly all deaths and most casualties.


I'm not talking about casualties, Booby - I'm talking about the total number of attacks.

Jihadist = 16%

All others = 84%

84 is a much bigger number than 16, Booby.



Greg why are you so keen to defend Islamic terrorism with misleading statistics?


You asked him that in the other thread, FD. Greggery asked you why you're so keen to defend the ethno-nationalists. You didn't answer.

Do you want to have a crack here?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 31st, 2018 at 11:52am
Do you think Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 31st, 2018 at 12:31pm

freediver wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 11:52am:
Do you think Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name?


Don't want to say, eh?

But a compelling question nevertheless. We apologists see terrorists giving Muslims a bad name.

You see Muslims giving your white supremacists a bad name by making them look weak.

With this in mind, FD, we don't need to ask. We know why you're so keen to defend ethno-nationalists and white supremacists.

Sometimes a question is just a question, innit.

Sometimes a question is an answer.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Brian do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Two points, FD.  The first is, you have not proved that the statistics Greg has quoted are "misleading".  The second is that you have not shown how Greg is using these statistics to "mislead".

Get back to us with your answer to those two questions and I might be interested in discussing this further.  Simply throwing mud is pointless however most of what you do is pointless, isn't it?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 31st, 2018 at 1:51pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Soren, I believe belongs to that bunch of splitters, the Danes Downunder Front for the Liberation of Australia, Karnal.  That is when he isn't receiving his medication...   ::)


Well, I hope he's in their marvellous terrorist organisation.

You know, the pacifist one. Unlike the Muselman.


I reckon the Danes gave up being aggressive when they stop sending out those Viking ships.  You know the ones?  Full o' naked Berserkers...   Not that I think Soren should be allowed to strip off.   It'd scared the horses in the streets if he was let lose naked...   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by .JaSin. on Dec 31st, 2018 at 3:26pm
I think the IRA and the American Public with Guns have till got a long way to go, if they think they can compete with the Moslems at TERRORISM.

And if the Moslems finally get their 'Messiah' (who dies for the sins of France-Euro) and lay down their weapons and Empire ways... where would it leave the IRA & American Public?

Don't you love that scene in Hunger Games where they storm the powers that be with a 'Suicide Bomber' - ahh, the Rebels. Not as good as you think, unlike the evil Imperialists run by Darth Vader. ;)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31st, 2018 at 4:27pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 3:26pm:
I think the IRA and the American Public with Guns have till got a long way to go, if they think they can compete with the Moslems at TERRORISM.

And if the Moslems finally get their 'Messiah' (who dies for the sins of France-Euro) and lay down their weapons and Empire ways... where would it leave the IRA & American Public?

Don't you love that scene in Hunger Games where they storm the powers that be with a 'Suicide Bomber' - ahh, the Rebels. Not as good as you think, unlike the evil Imperialists run by Darth Vader. ;)


"In 2017, British intelligence MI5 said that Northern Ireland is the most concentrated area of terrorist activity "probably anywhere in Europe", with weekly threats from dissident Irish republicans".

Lol   ;D

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by moses on Dec 31st, 2018 at 4:32pm
A fact of psychology is:

People endorse whichever position reinforces their connection to others with whom they share important commitments.


People who condemn islamic terrorism therefore certify the following as being the most pertinent facts.

EUROPOL TERRORISM

Terrorism

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EU remains acute.

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones.

Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror.

The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


muslim terrorists are the main threat, muslim terrorists cause the most deaths and injuries, the muslim jihadist is the reason the threat level is acute in Europe.

Now jump to the other side the apologists and supporters of islamic terror, all endorse facts which reinforce their position they push a fact that other forms of terrorism outnumber islamic terrorism.

They are desperate to slither around the truth that islamic terrorism is the most deadly form, deliberately committed by muslims to inflict the most number of injuries and deaths of innocent men women and children (including babies in prams).

Just depends which side of the fence you're on as to which fact you are going to promote.

I'm absolutely certain I'm on the right side.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 31st, 2018 at 4:36pm

moses wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 4:32pm:
A fact of psychology is:

People endorse whichever position reinforces their connection to others with whom they share important commitments.


People who condemn islamic terrorism therefore certify the following as being the most pertinent facts.

EUROPOL TERRORISM

Terrorism

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EU remains acute.

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones.

Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror.

The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


muslim terrorists are the main threat, muslim terrorists cause the most deaths and injuries, the muslim jihadist is the reason the threat level is acute in Europe.

Now jump to the other side the apologists and supporters of islamic terror, all endorse facts which reinforce their position they push a fact that other forms of terrorism outnumber islamic terrorism.

They are desperate to slither around the truth that islamic terrorism is the most deadly form, deliberately committed by muslims to inflict the most number of injuries and deaths of innocent men women and children (including babies in prams).

Just depends which side of the fence you're on as to which fact you are going to promote.

I'm absolutely certain I'm on the right side.


No no, now jump to the next page of the report, which contrasts FD's favourite form of terrorism with the Jihadists.

You left that part out, Moses.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by moses on Dec 31st, 2018 at 4:53pm
TRENDS

The report addresses terrorism in all its forms, namely:

Jihadist terrorism

Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorism

Left-wing and anarchist terrorism

Right-wing terrorism

Single-issue terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


My position is rock solid muslim terrorist are the highest threat in Europe.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Dec 31st, 2018 at 5:45pm

moses wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 4:53pm:
TRENDS

The report addresses terrorism in all its forms, namely:

Jihadist terrorism

Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorism

Left-wing and anarchist terrorism

Right-wing terrorism

Single-issue terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


My position is rock solid muslim terrorist are the highest threat in Europe.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

The Manchester jihad attack is a terrorist attack and a pie in the face of some Eurocrat is also a 'terrorist' attack.

That's what Turd faps to.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Dec 31st, 2018 at 5:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Brian do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Two points, FD.  The first is, you have not proved that the statistics Greg has quoted are "misleading".  The second is that you have not shown how Greg is using these statistics to "mislead".

Get back to us with your answer to those two questions and I might be interested in discussing this further.  Simply throwing mud is pointless however most of what you do is pointless, isn't it?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


So that is a no? You are afraid to have your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend Islamic terrorism unless I give it to you?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 31st, 2018 at 6:49pm

moses wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 4:32pm:
A fact of psychology is:

People endorse whichever position reinforces their connection to others with whom they share important commitments.


People who condemn islamic terrorism therefore certify the following as being the most pertinent facts.

EUROPOL TERRORISM

Terrorism

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EU remains acute.

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones.

Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror.

The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


muslim terrorists are the main threat, muslim terrorists cause the most deaths and injuries, the muslim jihadist is the reason the threat level is acute in Europe.

Now jump to the other side the apologists and supporters of islamic terror, all endorse facts which reinforce their position they push a fact that other forms of terrorism outnumber islamic terrorism.

They are desperate to slither around the truth that islamic terrorism is the most deadly form, deliberately committed by muslims to inflict the most number of injuries and deaths of innocent men women and children (including babies in prams).

Just depends which side of the fence you're on as to which fact you are going to promote.


I'm absolutely certain I'm on the right side.


The side of non-Jihadist terrorists?

The Europol report shows that the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism, moses.

Why do you continually defend the 84% of terrorists who aren't Muslims?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 31st, 2018 at 7:15pm

freediver wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 5:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Brian do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Two points, FD.  The first is, you have not proved that the statistics Greg has quoted are "misleading".  The second is that you have not shown how Greg is using these statistics to "mislead".

Get back to us with your answer to those two questions and I might be interested in discussing this further.  Simply throwing mud is pointless however most of what you do is pointless, isn't it?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


So that is a no? You are afraid to have your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend Islamic terrorism unless I give it to you?


That's a question.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Dec 31st, 2018 at 7:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 6:49pm:

moses wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 4:32pm:
A fact of psychology is:

People endorse whichever position reinforces their connection to others with whom they share important commitments.


People who condemn islamic terrorism therefore certify the following as being the most pertinent facts.

EUROPOL TERRORISM

Terrorism

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EU remains acute.

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones.

Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror.

The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


muslim terrorists are the main threat, muslim terrorists cause the most deaths and injuries, the muslim jihadist is the reason the threat level is acute in Europe.

Now jump to the other side the apologists and supporters of islamic terror, all endorse facts which reinforce their position they push a fact that other forms of terrorism outnumber islamic terrorism.

They are desperate to slither around the truth that islamic terrorism is the most deadly form, deliberately committed by muslims to inflict the most number of injuries and deaths of innocent men women and children (including babies in prams).

Just depends which side of the fence you're on as to which fact you are going to promote.


I'm absolutely certain I'm on the right side.


The side of non-Jihadist terrorists?

The Europol report shows that the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism, moses.

Why do you continually defend the 84% of terrorists who aren't Muslims?

I'm curious.


Because Moses is a white supremacist virtue-signaller. He doesn't give a hoot about the Muselman. His aim is to ban the tinted races. Your Muselman is merely first cab off the rank, an easy mark.

Why do you think FD started this board in the first place? Friendly discussion? Civilised debate? Sustainable fishing and carbon taxes?

FD wanted a benign version of Stormfront. Surprisingly enough, a number of members have gone straight to the source and migrated there.

After all, why bother reading between FD's lines and watching him squirm and stutter and evade? Just come out with it.

The tinted races are ever so offensive.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Dec 31st, 2018 at 8:03pm

freediver wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 5:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Brian do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Two points, FD.  The first is, you have not proved that the statistics Greg has quoted are "misleading".  The second is that you have not shown how Greg is using these statistics to "mislead".

Get back to us with your answer to those two questions and I might be interested in discussing this further.  Simply throwing mud is pointless however most of what you do is pointless, isn't it?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


So that is a no? You are afraid to have your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend Islamic terrorism unless I give it to you?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, FD.  Unwilling to answer questions?  Tsk, tsk, how typical of a stirring troll, hey?   Get back to us when you're willing to come out from under your bridge.    ::) ::)


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Dec 31st, 2018 at 9:44pm
1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.



Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:17am

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 9:44pm:
1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.


And a happy new year to you, Soren.  :)

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware.  He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true.   You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all.  You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports.   Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature".   Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do.    ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:26am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 9:44pm:
1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.


And a happy new year to you, Soren.  :)

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware.  He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true.   You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all.  You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports.   Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature".   Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do.    ::)


Brian you appear unable to distinguish between misleading and "factually incorrect". Are you having trouble comprehending the question, or are you just afraid of your own opinion? Why do apologists for Islamic terrorism inevitably take on the slipperyness of the Muslims they are defending?

Do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:31am

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 9:44pm:
1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.


And a happy new year to you, Soren.  :)

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware.  He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true.   You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all.  You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports.   Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature".   Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do.    ::)


Brian you appear unable to distinguish between misleading and "factually incorrect". Are you having trouble comprehending the question, or are you just afraid of your own opinion? Why do apologists for Islamic terrorism inevitably take on the slipperyness of the Muslims they are defending?

Do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More questions.  When you answer mine, FD, I may answer yours.  OK?  Now run along, back to the little kiddies' playground...   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 9:44pm:
1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.


And a happy new year to you, Soren.  :)

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware.  He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true.   You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all.  You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports.   Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature".   Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do.    ::)


Brian you appear unable to distinguish between misleading and "factually incorrect". Are you having trouble comprehending the question, or are you just afraid of your own opinion? Why do apologists for Islamic terrorism inevitably take on the slipperyness of the Muslims they are defending?

Do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More questions.  When you answer mine, FD, I may answer yours.  OK?  Now run along, back to the little kiddies' playground...   ::)


So you *might* reveal to us whether you are brave enough to form your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:37am

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 9:44pm:
1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.


And a happy new year to you, Soren.  :)

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware.  He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true.   You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all.  You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports.   Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature".   Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do.    ::)


Brian you appear unable to distinguish between misleading and "factually incorrect". Are you having trouble comprehending the question, or are you just afraid of your own opinion? Why do apologists for Islamic terrorism inevitably take on the slipperyness of the Muslims they are defending?

Do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More questions.  When you answer mine, FD, I may answer yours.  OK?  Now run along, back to the little kiddies' playground...   ::)


So you *might* reveal to us whether you are brave enough to form your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


You won't know until you answer my questions, Freediver, now will you?   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.




Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by freediver on Jan 1st, 2019 at 1:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:37am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 9:44pm:
1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.


And a happy new year to you, Soren.  :)

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware.  He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true.   You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all.  You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports.   Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature".   Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do.    ::)


Brian you appear unable to distinguish between misleading and "factually incorrect". Are you having trouble comprehending the question, or are you just afraid of your own opinion? Why do apologists for Islamic terrorism inevitably take on the slipperyness of the Muslims they are defending?

Do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More questions.  When you answer mine, FD, I may answer yours.  OK?  Now run along, back to the little kiddies' playground...   ::)


So you *might* reveal to us whether you are brave enough to form your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


You won't know until you answer my questions, Freediver, now will you?   ::)


I know you are afraid of your own opinion on the matter.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 1:58pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist treat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist treat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

They are near-harmless compared to the jihadi death toll,  Turdy Mcwankpuffin.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:09pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist treat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

They are near-harmless compared to the jihadi death toll,  Turdy Mcwankpuffin.


There we have it, folks: a frank admission from the apologist.

I suspect he'll keep using misleading statistics, though.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:21pm

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 1:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:37am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31st, 2018 at 9:44pm:
1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.


And a happy new year to you, Soren.  :)

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware.  He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true.   You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all.  You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports.   Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature".   Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do.    ::)


Brian you appear unable to distinguish between misleading and "factually incorrect". Are you having trouble comprehending the question, or are you just afraid of your own opinion? Why do apologists for Islamic terrorism inevitably take on the slipperyness of the Muslims they are defending?

Do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More questions.  When you answer mine, FD, I may answer yours.  OK?  Now run along, back to the little kiddies' playground...   ::)


So you *might* reveal to us whether you are brave enough to form your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?


You won't know until you answer my questions, Freediver, now will you?   ::)


I know you are afraid of your own opinion on the matter.


I fear nothing of the sort, FD.  When you answer my questions, I may answer yours.  Will you?  No, it appears you're the one who is afraid of his own opinion...    ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by moses on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:15pm
gpeck reply 89 wrote


Quote:
The side of non-Jihadist terrorists?

The Europol report shows that the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism, moses.

Why do you continually defend the 84% of terrorists who aren't Muslims?

I'm curious


The terrorist threat level in Europe is acute.

The vast majority of terrorist attacks do not use the slaughtering of innumerable innocent men women and children as the modus operandi.

There is only one type of terrorism which is the main concern and slaughters the highest number of innocent men women and children.

islamic terrorism.

So we have:

Threat level: Acute.

Main concern: Jihadist terrorism (muslim terrorism)

Number of Deaths / casualities: Nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

Seems very clear to me that the mix islam / muslims / terrorism is the major threat to Europe. (or has Europol got it wrong?)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by moses on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:40pm
Hey there forky tongue, just repeating Europol figures:

Threat level: Acute.

Main concern: Jihadist terrorism (muslim terrorism)

Number of Deaths / casualties: Nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

Seems very clear to me that the mix islam / muslims / terrorism is the major threat to Europe. (or has Europol got it wrong?) 
   

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.


To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.




Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist treat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

They are near-harmless compared to the jihadi death toll,  Turdy Mcwankpuffin.


There we have it, folks: a frank admission from the apologist.

I suspect he'll keep using misleading statistics, though.

You have rubbed your pizzle raw by now, Turd, apply some lotion and have a lie down.



Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:52pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Jan 1st, 2019 at 7:06pm
Old boy, why did you move from a white European backwater to a thriving multicultural city in the Asia-Pacific?

Wanted to convert us to white European backwaterism, did you?

How did that go?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:47pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Old boy, why did you move from a white European backwater to a thriving multicultural city in the Asia-Pacific?

Wanted to convert us to white European backwaterism, did you?

How did that go?

Clap hands, here comes Wankpuffin with his Paki crap.




Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.


To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:49pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.


To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Karnal on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:50pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Old boy, why did you move from a white European backwater to a thriving multicultural city in the Asia-Pacific?

Wanted to convert us to white European backwaterism, did you?

How did that go?

Clap hands, here comes Wankpuffin with his Paki crap.


No no, I'd really like to know.

Did you confuse us with a Lutheran mission in the South Pacific?

New Guinea, perhaps?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)

So telling the truth is Islamophobia? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)



What DOES Paddy actually DO, cockwomble? How many are killed by Paddy compared to Mohammed? 

Why is the death toll irrelevant and the number of victimless events is all that matters, idiotic piss-soaked old fapper?





Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)

So telling the truth is Islamophobia? ;D ;D ;D


He's telling the truth.  Then why is his nose growing longer, Hammer?  Mmmmm?    ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


From the 2018 Europol report:

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
30 were bombing incidents."


Thoughts?




Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:09pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)


What DOES Paddy actually DO, cockwomble? How many are killed by Paddy compared to Mohammed? 

Why is the death toll irrelevant and the number of victimless events is all that matters, idiotic piss-soaked old fapper?


No one, as far as I am aware, has claimed that these Terrorist events are "victimless", Soren.  Nor have they claimed that the "death toll is irrelevant", except in your imagination.

How about you argue the facts that Greg has presented - most Terrorist incidents in Europe are committed by non-Islamists, instead of haring off in wild directions?  Or is that too hard for you?

I suspect it is, going by your past performance but I am always willing to give it a chance...   ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


From the 2018 Europol report:

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
30 were bombing incidents."


Thoughts?


Big Pecca. So how many people have been killed in Europe by the jihadis  compared to the Unionists and Republicans over the last 20 years Pecca?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Rhino on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:15pm
heres the point Brian, Pecca and you are attempting to mitigate Islamic terrorism using statistics. We know and its not in dispute that Islamic terrorism creates a far greater death toll than other types of terrorism. We also know that a lot of Islamic terrorism is aimed at the western world due to their hatred of us and our culture. You and Pecca are both apologists for this.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


From the 2018 Europol report:

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
30 were bombing incidents."


Thoughts?


Big Pecca. So how many people have been killed in Europe by the jihadis  compared to the Unionists and Republicans over the last 20 years Pecca?


And there it is folks, once again.

When his argument is shot down in flames, Mr Hammer changes the subject.

To recap:

- the majority (84%) of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism.

- there were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)


The vast majority, the overwhelming majority of deaths and injuries by terrorist attacks in Europe, North America, Australia are due to Islamic jihad attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, justified by Islamic doctrine, supported by other Muslims on the ground in their 'communities' and across the globe and they have been committing these murders for exclusively Islamic reasons.i

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


Quote:
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
Q
Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
Asked on: 15 October 2018
Ministry of Defence
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
A
Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

[url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:18pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)


The vast majority, the overwhelming majority of deaths and injuries by terrorist attacks in Europe, North America, Australia are due to Islamic jihad attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, justified by Islamic doctrine, supported by other Muslims on the ground in their 'communities' and across the globe and they have been committing these murders for exclusively Islamic reasons.


That's incorrect, actually.

The majority of deaths in Australia from terrorist attacks, had nothing to do with Jihadism.

What will your next lie be?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:21pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


135 of the 142 killed in terrorist attacks were a result of  Islamic terrorists, muslims  are about 5% of the population in Europe, the other 7 killed were a result of non muslims who make up the other 95% of the population in Europe.


Quote:
Muslims make up 4.9% of Europe’s population in 2016

http://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/



In Pakistan which is 99% muslim how many die from terrorism in the land of the pure?

Quote:
Terrorism in Pakistan

Terrorism in Pakistan has become a major and highly destructive phenomenon in recent years. The annual death toll from terrorist attacks has risen from 164 in 2003 to 3318 in 2009,[1][2][3] with a total of 35,000 Pakistanis killed between 11 September 2001 and May 2011.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Pakistan



It woulld be interesting to add up Islamic terrorist deaths from all the countries where Islam dominates the demographics, oh dearie dearie me it doesn't look good tsk tsk tsk  ::)




Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


Quote:
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
Q
Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
Asked on: 15 October 2018
Ministry of Defence
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
A
Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

[url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)


This is where Mr Hammer changes the subject.



Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


Quote:
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
Q
Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
Asked on: 15 October 2018
Ministry of Defence
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
A
Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

[url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:27pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:21pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


135 of the 142 killed in terrorist attacks were a result of  Islamic terrorists, muslims  are about 5% of the population in Europe, the other 7 killed were a result of non muslims who make up the other 95% of the population in Europe.


Quote:
Muslims make up 4.9% of Europe’s population in 2016

http://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/



In Pakistan which is 99% muslim how many die from terrorism in the land of the pure?
[quote]
Terrorism in Pakistan

Terrorism in Pakistan has become a major and highly destructive phenomenon in recent years. The annual death toll from terrorist attacks has risen from 164 in 2003 to 3318 in 2009,[1][2][3] with a total of 35,000 Pakistanis killed between 11 September 2001 and May 2011.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Pakistan



It woulld be interesting to add up Islamic terrorist deaths from all the countries where Islam dominates the demographics, oh dearie dearie me it doesn't look good tsk tsk tsk  ::)



[/quote]

At 5% of the population muslims have racked up 135 of the 142 dead bodies from terrorism.

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)


The vast majority, the overwhelming majority of deaths and injuries by terrorist attacks in Europe, North America, Australia are due to Islamic jihad attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, justified by Islamic doctrine, supported by other Muslims on the ground in their 'communities' and across the globe and they have been committing these murders for exclusively Islamic reasons.


That's incorrect, actually.

The majority of deaths in Australia from terrorist attacks, had nothing to do with Jihadism.

What will your next lie be?

I'm curious.

Here comes McWankpuffin about all the violent deaths between 60,000 bc and 1788 AD havin' nuffin' to do wiv Allah.


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:35pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


Quote:
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
Q
Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
Asked on: 15 October 2018
Ministry of Defence
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
A
Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

[url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?


Yes, they are classified as terrorist attacks.

You haven't even bothered to read the report, have you?


Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


Quote:
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
Q
Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
Asked on: 15 October 2018
Ministry of Defence
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
A
Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

[url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?


Yes, they are classified as terrorist attacks.

You haven't even bothered to read the report, have you?

So if a Iraqi soldier kills some ISIS cretin it's not a terrorist attack but if  but if some IRA dude wastes a Unionist it's a terrorist attack? :-?

Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:48pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)


The vast majority, the overwhelming majority of deaths and injuries by terrorist attacks in Europe, North America, Australia are due to Islamic jihad attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, justified by Islamic doctrine, supported by other Muslims on the ground in their 'communities' and across the globe and they have been committing these murders for exclusively Islamic reasons.


Quite correct and sensible, all except for the last three words, Soren.  Keep trying, see, it isn't hard to be sensible about this, now is it?   The frequency in Europe was higher from non-Islamist Terrorists.   Motivation?


Quote:
Martha Crenshaw, professor of Political Science at Stanford, argues that terrorist groups make calculated decisions to engage in terrorism, and moreover, that terrorism is a "political behavior resulting from the deliberate choice of a basically rational actor."6In addition to this, she suggests "Terrorism is a logical choice ... when the power ratio of government to challenger is high."

Crenshaw breaks down the causes of terrorism into three layers:

    Situational factors: This can be subdivided into two parts; (1) conditions that allow the possibility of radicalisation and motivate feeling against the 'enemy', and (2) specific triggers (events) for action.
    Strategic aims:
        Long-run;
[list bull-blackball]
  •         political change, revolution, nationalists fighting an occupying force, minority separatist movements

            Short-run;
    [list bull-blackball]
  •         recognition or attention to advertise their cause
  •         Disrupt and discredit the process of government
  •         Influence public attitudes; fear or sympathy
  •         Provoke a counter-reaction to legitimise their grievances

  • [https://ourworldindata.org/terrorism#rational-motives]Source[/url]


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:48pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:30pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:18pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

    So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


    No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)


    The vast majority, the overwhelming majority of deaths and injuries by terrorist attacks in Europe, North America, Australia are due to Islamic jihad attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, justified by Islamic doctrine, supported by other Muslims on the ground in their 'communities' and across the globe and they have been committing these murders for exclusively Islamic reasons.


    That's incorrect, actually.

    The majority of deaths in Australia from terrorist attacks, had nothing to do with Jihadism.

    What will your next lie be?

    I'm curious.

    Here comes McWankpuffin about all the violent deaths between 60,000 bc and 1788 AD havin' nuffin' to do wiv Allah.


    The majority of deaths in Australia from terrorist attacks, up to and including 1 January 2019, had nothing to do with Jihadism.

    What part of that don't you understand?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:52pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


    Quote:
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
    Q
    Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
    Asked on: 15 October 2018
    Ministry of Defence
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
    To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
    A
    Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

    Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

    [url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

    Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

    Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?


    You do not call out the Military Bomb Disposal boys and girls for nothing, Hammer.  They are called out because there is a suspicion that there is a bomb.  Who uses bombs?  Terrorists.  Some may have been false alarms but in Northern Ireland, the British Army plays for real on all call outs.    ::)


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:48pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:30pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:18pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    ::) ::)

    So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died 


    No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   ::)


    The vast majority, the overwhelming majority of deaths and injuries by terrorist attacks in Europe, North America, Australia are due to Islamic jihad attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, justified by Islamic doctrine, supported by other Muslims on the ground in their 'communities' and across the globe and they have been committing these murders for exclusively Islamic reasons.


    That's incorrect, actually.

    The majority of deaths in Australia from terrorist attacks, had nothing to do with Jihadism.

    What will your next lie be?

    I'm curious.

    Here comes McWankpuffin about all the violent deaths between 60,000 bc and 1788 AD havin' nuffin' to do wiv Allah.


    The majority of deaths in Australia from terrorist attacks, up to and including 1 January 2019, had nothing to do with Jihadism.

    What part of that don't you understand?

    The lying,  misleading, deliberately shitehead bits.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:52pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


    Quote:
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
    Q
    Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
    Asked on: 15 October 2018
    Ministry of Defence
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
    To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
    A
    Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

    Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

    [url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

    Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

    Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?


    You do not call out the Military Bomb Disposal boys and girls for nothing, Hammer.  They are called out because there is a suspicion that there is a bomb.  Who uses bombs?  Terrorists.  Some may have been false alarms but in Northern Ireland, the British Army plays for real on all call outs.    ::)

    There's ceasefire in place Brian. Ceasefires are called during times of war. Factions in Northern Ireland were effectively at war. I'd be careful calling all of what happened (and is still happening) during the troubles as terrorism.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:47pm:
    So if a Iraqi soldier kills some ISIS cretin it's not a terrorist attack but if  but if some IRA dude wastes a Unionist it's a terrorist attack? :-?


    "Terrorism" is usually defined as the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.   An Iraqi soldier killing an ISIS Terrorist is undertaken by an instrument of the State to protect the civilian population of that State.  An IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.

    This is old hat, Hammer.  Since 2001 this has been thrashed out quite a lot.  Please try and keep up...   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:59pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:47pm:
    So if a Iraqi soldier kills some ISIS cretin it's not a terrorist attack but if  but if some IRA dude wastes a Unionist it's a terrorist attack? :-?


    "Terrorism" is usually defined as the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.   An Iraqi soldier killing an ISIS Terrorist is undertaken by an instrument of the State to protect the civilian population of that State.  An IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.

    This is old hat, Hammer.  Since 2001 this has been thrashed out quite a lot.  Please try and keep up...   ::)

    A IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.
     
    That's very debatable. Funny how they all got released hey Brian?? ;D ;D ;D It was war.





    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:00pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:52pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


    Quote:
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
    Q
    Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
    Asked on: 15 October 2018
    Ministry of Defence
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
    To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
    A
    Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

    Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

    [url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

    Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

    Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?


    You do not call out the Military Bomb Disposal boys and girls for nothing, Hammer.  They are called out because there is a suspicion that there is a bomb.  Who uses bombs?  Terrorists.  Some may have been false alarms but in Northern Ireland, the British Army plays for real on all call outs.    ::)

    There's ceasefire in place Brian. Ceasefires are called during times of war. Factions in Northern Ireland were effectively at war. I'd be careful calling all of what happened (and is still happening) during the troubles as terrorism.



    Ceasefires only apply to the signatories, Hammer.  Splinter groups still commit Terrorism, despite the ceasefire.   The major factions - the PIRA, the Unionists and so on, all agreed to a Ceasefire under the Good Friday Peace Agreement signed in 1998.   Splinter groups have since then broken away from the major factions and are waging their own, independent "war".   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:03pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:59pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:47pm:
    So if a Iraqi soldier kills some ISIS cretin it's not a terrorist attack but if  but if some IRA dude wastes a Unionist it's a terrorist attack? :-?


    "Terrorism" is usually defined as the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.   An Iraqi soldier killing an ISIS Terrorist is undertaken by an instrument of the State to protect the civilian population of that State.  An IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.

    This is old hat, Hammer.  Since 2001 this has been thrashed out quite a lot.  Please try and keep up...   ::)

    An IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.
       That's very debatable.


    Debate it all you like.  The PIRA was not a "state" and never has been a "state".  It's members have (in theory) all agreed to abide by the Good Friday Peace Agreement and disarmed.   There are breakaway groups though, that have not.  Those are the ones committing the Terrorist acts in Northern Ireland.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:05pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:00pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:52pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


    Quote:
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
    Q
    Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
    Asked on: 15 October 2018
    Ministry of Defence
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
    To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
    A
    Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

    Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

    [url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

    Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

    Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?


    You do not call out the Military Bomb Disposal boys and girls for nothing, Hammer.  They are called out because there is a suspicion that there is a bomb.  Who uses bombs?  Terrorists.  Some may have been false alarms but in Northern Ireland, the British Army plays for real on all call outs.    ::)

    There's ceasefire in place Brian. Ceasefires are called during times of war. Factions in Northern Ireland were effectively at war. I'd be careful calling all of what happened (and is still happening) during the troubles as terrorism.



    Ceasefires only apply to the signatories, Hammer.  Splinter groups still commit Terrorism, despite the ceasefire.   The major factions - the PIRA, the Unionists and so on, all agreed to a Ceasefire under the Good Friday Peace Agreement signed in 1998.   Splinter groups have since then broken away from the major factions and are waging their own, independent "war".   ::)

    And most groups in Ireland  target who they are attacking. Unionist leaders, IRA leaders, paramilitaries etc. Two little girls had their heads chopped off by a group of ugly jihadists the other week. These girls  had no part in anything political. Now that's terrorism.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:09pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:59pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:47pm:
    So if a Iraqi soldier kills some ISIS cretin it's not a terrorist attack but if  but if some IRA dude wastes a Unionist it's a terrorist attack? :-?


    "Terrorism" is usually defined as the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.   An Iraqi soldier killing an ISIS Terrorist is undertaken by an instrument of the State to protect the civilian population of that State.  An IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.

    This is old hat, Hammer.  Since 2001 this has been thrashed out quite a lot.  Please try and keep up...   ::)

    An IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.
       That's very debatable.


    Debate it all you like.  The PIRA was not a "state" and never has been a "state".  It's members have (in theory) all agreed to abide by the Good Friday Peace Agreement and disarmed.   There are breakaway groups though, that have not.  Those are the ones committing the Terrorist acts in Northern Ireland.

    All these unionist and IRA so called terrorists were put in their own prison (The Maze). They had good conditions and were eventually released. The reason being because they were not plain murderers. You must have studied up on the troubles Brian?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Rhino on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:47pm

    Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:27pm:

    Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:21pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    135 of the 142 killed in terrorist attacks were a result of  Islamic terrorists, muslims  are about 5% of the population in Europe, the other 7 killed were a result of non muslims who make up the other 95% of the population in Europe.


    Quote:
    Muslims make up 4.9% of Europe’s population in 2016

    http://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/



    In Pakistan which is 99% muslim how many die from terrorism in the land of the pure?
    [quote]
    Terrorism in Pakistan

    Terrorism in Pakistan has become a major and highly destructive phenomenon in recent years. The annual death toll from terrorist attacks has risen from 164 in 2003 to 3318 in 2009,[1][2][3] with a total of 35,000 Pakistanis killed between 11 September 2001 and May 2011.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Pakistan



    It woulld be interesting to add up Islamic terrorist deaths from all the countries where Islam dominates the demographics, oh dearie dearie me it doesn't look good tsk tsk tsk  ::)


    At 5% of the population muslims have racked up 135 of the 142 dead bodies from terrorism.[/quote]Yes. Thats the only statistic in this conversation we should be concerned about. Why do you think Pecca and Brian consistently apologise for Islamic extremists?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:59pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:47pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:35pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


    Quote:
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
    Q
    Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
    Asked on: 15 October 2018
    Ministry of Defence
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
    To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
    A
    Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

    Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

    [url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

    Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

    Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?


    Yes, they are classified as terrorist attacks.

    You haven't even bothered to read the report, have you?

    So if a Iraqi soldier kills some ISIS cretin it's not a terrorist attack but if  but if some IRA dude wastes a Unionist it's a terrorist attack? :-?


    We told you they'd be a nuisance once we started giving them an education, Greggery.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    From the 2018 Europol report:

    "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
    Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
    30 were bombing incidents."


    Thoughts?


    How many dead?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:58am

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    From the 2018 Europol report:

    "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
    Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
    30 were bombing incidents."


    Thoughts?


    How many dead?

    They never answer Frank. It scares them to answer. Typical spineless leftist apologists.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:24am

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    From the 2018 Europol report:

    "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
    Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
    30 were bombing incidents."


    Thoughts?


    How many dead?


    I don't know.

    I don't know how many were wearing red shirts either, because that's not what we're discussing.

    We're not discussing red shirts, and we're not discussing deaths.

    We're discussing the last bomb to go off.

    It wasn't in 1992, like Mr Hammer claims.

    This is a good example of exactly how stupid people are, though.

    If they don't see it on the Channel 7 "News", it never happened.

    ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:29am

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:24am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    From the 2018 Europol report:

    "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
    Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
    30 were bombing incidents."


    Thoughts?


    How many dead?


    I don't know.

    I don't know how many were wearing red shirts either, because that's not what we're discussing.

    We're not discussing red shirts, and we're not discussing deaths.

    We're discussing the last bomb to go off.

    It wasn't in 1992, like Mr Hammer claims.

    This is a good example of exactly how stupid people are, though.

    If they don't see it on the Channel 7 "News", it never happened.

    ::)

    Stupid? Stupid is overlooking the word big in my comment. Are you blind from wanking or something.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:31am
    The Omagh bombing in 1998 was the last significant bombing. I knew it was in the 90's.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:31am

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:29am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:24am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    From the 2018 Europol report:

    "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
    Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
    30 were bombing incidents."


    Thoughts?


    How many dead?


    I don't know.

    I don't know how many were wearing red shirts either, because that's not what we're discussing.

    We're not discussing red shirts, and we're not discussing deaths.

    We're discussing the last bomb to go off.

    It wasn't in 1992, like Mr Hammer claims.

    This is a good example of exactly how stupid people are, though.

    If they don't see it on the Channel 7 "News", it never happened.

    ::)

    Stupid? Stupid is overlooking the word big in my comment. Are you blind from wanking or something.


    That's right, folks: as long as your bomb isn't "big", terrorism is fine by Mr Hammer.

    Just another apologist.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:38am

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:31am:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:29am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:24am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    From the 2018 Europol report:

    "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
    Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
    30 were bombing incidents."


    Thoughts?


    How many dead?


    I don't know.

    I don't know how many were wearing red shirts either, because that's not what we're discussing.

    We're not discussing red shirts, and we're not discussing deaths.

    We're discussing the last bomb to go off.

    It wasn't in 1992, like Mr Hammer claims.

    This is a good example of exactly how stupid people are, though.

    If they don't see it on the Channel 7 "News", it never happened.

    ::)

    Stupid? Stupid is overlooking the word big in my comment. Are you blind from wanking or something.


    That's right, folks: as long as your bomb isn't "big", terrorism is fine by Mr Hammer.

    Just another apologist.

    I'm not saying terrorism hasn't happened in Northern  Ireland. It overinflates the figures when you add tit for tat sectarian violence in Northern Ireland as terrorism. That's all I'm saying.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:43am

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:38am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:31am:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:29am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:24am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    From the 2018 Europol report:

    "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
    Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
    30 were bombing incidents."


    Thoughts?


    How many dead?


    I don't know.

    I don't know how many were wearing red shirts either, because that's not what we're discussing.

    We're not discussing red shirts, and we're not discussing deaths.

    We're discussing the last bomb to go off.

    It wasn't in 1992, like Mr Hammer claims.

    This is a good example of exactly how stupid people are, though.

    If they don't see it on the Channel 7 "News", it never happened.

    ::)

    Stupid? Stupid is overlooking the word big in my comment. Are you blind from wanking or something.


    That's right, folks: as long as your bomb isn't "big", terrorism is fine by Mr Hammer.

    Just another apologist.

    I'm not saying terrorism hasn't happened in Northern  Ireland. It overinflates the figures when you add tit for tat sectarian violence in Northern Ireland as terrorism. That's all I'm saying.


    I don't make the rules - tell it to Europol.

    When you're told that the vast majority of terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Islam, you say "I meant deaths, not attacks" or, "That's not really terrorism".

    You constantly move the goal posts in order to suit your own agenda.

    Just face the facts: most terrorism isn't carried out by Muslims, and most Muslims are fine upstanding citizens.

    You really should try to be a little less of an ignorant, irrational bigot this year.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:27am

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:05pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:00pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:52pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:23pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:


    Quote:
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
    Q
    Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
    Asked on: 15 October 2018
    Ministry of Defence
    Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
    To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
    A
    Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

    Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

    [url=https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2018-10-15/179144/]Source[/url]

    Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    ::)

    Are they classified as terrorist attacks. Did any go off?  I thought the unionists and IRA were at war? Were these targeted attacks?


    You do not call out the Military Bomb Disposal boys and girls for nothing, Hammer.  They are called out because there is a suspicion that there is a bomb.  Who uses bombs?  Terrorists.  Some may have been false alarms but in Northern Ireland, the British Army plays for real on all call outs.    ::)

    There's ceasefire in place Brian. Ceasefires are called during times of war. Factions in Northern Ireland were effectively at war. I'd be careful calling all of what happened (and is still happening) during the troubles as terrorism.



    Ceasefires only apply to the signatories, Hammer.  Splinter groups still commit Terrorism, despite the ceasefire.   The major factions - the PIRA, the Unionists and so on, all agreed to a Ceasefire under the Good Friday Peace Agreement signed in 1998.   Splinter groups have since then broken away from the major factions and are waging their own, independent "war".   ::)

    And most groups in Ireland  target who they are attacking. Unionist leaders, IRA leaders, paramilitaries etc. Two little girls had their heads chopped off by a group of ugly jihadists the other week. These girls  had no part in anything political. Now that's terrorism.


    The PIRA has, in the past, engaged in indiscriminate bombing campaigns both in Northern Ireland and in England, Hammer.  I still remember to this day seeing on the TV news a fireman using a shovel to move body bits into a bin in Northern Ireland to be sorted out later by the morticians.  Don't try and claim that Islamists are more vicious or more dirty in their Terrorism compared to other groups.  In reality,  it has all been done before.    ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:29am

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:09pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:59pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:57pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:47pm:
    So if a Iraqi soldier kills some ISIS cretin it's not a terrorist attack but if  but if some IRA dude wastes a Unionist it's a terrorist attack? :-?


    "Terrorism" is usually defined as the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.   An Iraqi soldier killing an ISIS Terrorist is undertaken by an instrument of the State to protect the civilian population of that State.  An IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.

    This is old hat, Hammer.  Since 2001 this has been thrashed out quite a lot.  Please try and keep up...   ::)

    An IRA Terrorist killing a Unionist is classified as a non-state actor committing murder for political ends.
       That's very debatable.


    Debate it all you like.  The PIRA was not a "state" and never has been a "state".  It's members have (in theory) all agreed to abide by the Good Friday Peace Agreement and disarmed.   There are breakaway groups though, that have not.  Those are the ones committing the Terrorist acts in Northern Ireland.

    All these unionist and IRA so called terrorists were put in their own prison (The Maze). They had good conditions and were eventually released. The reason being because they were not plain murderers. You must have studied up on the troubles Brian?


    I know sufficient to know you are being an apologist for vicious Terrorists who killed without compunction, Hammer.  Tsk, tsk, where is your moral high ground, hey?   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:32am

    rhino wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:47pm:
    Yes. Thats the only statistic in this conversation we should be concerned about. Why do you think Pecca and Brian consistently apologise for Islamic extremists?


    Care to present your evidence that I have ever apologise for any Terrorism committed by anybody?

    Here, this is a space reserved for your evidence:

    Quote:









    Of course, you like all the other critics will slink away...  Back to the little kiddies' playground with you, Rhino.

    All I have done is made sure that Islamophobes like yourself have finally grasped the difference between frequency and deadliness, nothing more.  Grow up, why don't you?   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:46am

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:58am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:51am:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)


    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   ::)



    Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

    To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


    You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   ::)
    Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


    From the 2018 Europol report:

    "There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
    Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
    30 were bombing incidents."


    Thoughts?


    How many dead?

    They never answer Frank. It scares them to answer. Typical spineless leftist apologists.


    Don't they?  Unlike you, I prefer to sleep, Hammer.

    My answer is contained here:  Terrorism in Great Britain: the statistics


    Quote:
    According to official data from 11 September 2001 to 31 March 2016,
    there were 54 deaths in Great Britain as a direct result of terrorist acts
    (excluding the perpetrators). 1

    The Global Terrorism Database (at the University of Maryland) is
    contracted by the US Department of State to collate statistical data and
    information on terrorist events from around the world.

    The chart below uses data from the GTD to show the number of deaths
    due to terrorism in the UK from 1970 to 2016.

    According to this data there were 3,262 victims of terrorism in the time
    period shown. The majority of deaths between 1970 and 1990 were in
    Northern Ireland (86%). There are two clear peaks in the number of
    people killed: 1972, where 344 people were killed in Northern Ireland,
    and 1988, where 271 people were killed in Scotland in the Lockerbie
    bombing.

    The general trend from around the 1980s is a decrease in the number
    of people of killed due to terrorism.

    [p.5, Terrorism in Great Britain: the statistics

    I have yet to find out the numbers of recent deaths in Northern Ireland due to Terrorism but I am working on it.
    UK_deaths_Terrorism.jpg (36 KB | 21 )

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:52am
    Islamic jihad is the deadliest and most sifgnificant terrorist threat in Europe and around the world - but let's  focus on some obscure  stuff nobody knows about or has heard of and which bothers only obscure corners of obscure provinces.  Because talking about what is significant is actually 'Islamophobic' and 'insensitive' towards the jihadists' and their mums' feelings so it's verboten or bigoted or some such bollocks.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:55am

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:52am:
    Islamic jihad is the deadluest and most sifgnificant terrorist threat in Europe and around the world - but let's  focus on some obscure  stuff nobody knows about or has heard of and which bothers only obscure corners of obscure provinces.  Because talking about what is significant is actually 'Islamophobic' and 'insensitive' towards the jihadists' and their mums' feelings so it's verboten.


    Islamic jihad only accounts for 16% of attacks in Europe.

    Why are you ignoring trying to cover up the other 84% of attacks?



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:57am
    I have now discovered a newspaper report on deaths from Terrorism in the UK since 2001 and up to 2017.  It stated:


    Quote:
    • November 2001: Real IRA car bomb detonated in Birmingham by republican dissidents. No casualties.

    • 7 July 2005: Four bombs carried by jihadi suicide bombers explode on tube trains and a bus in London, killing 56 people including the attackers.
    Westminster attack: PC Keith Palmer named as police officer killed – as it happened
    Read more

    • 21 July 2005: Four jihadi bombers fail to detonate their explosives on London transport system. No one hurt.

    • June 2007: Two car bombs, packed with petrol, gas cylinders and nails, discovered in central London close to nightclubs in al-Qaida-inspired plot. The devices failed to ignite.

    • June 2007: Several days later the same al-Qaida group drove a car into the glass doors of Glasgow airport. One of the attackers died and five people suffered minor injuries.

    • May 2008: A Muslim convert tried to detonate a bomb in the toilet of a cafe in Exeter, injuring himself. No one else was hurt.

    • March 2009: Two young soldiers shot dead by the Real IRA outside the Massereene Barracks in County Antrim. Two days later a PSNI officer was shot dead by Republican gunmen in Craigavon, Northern Ireland.

    • April 2011: PSNI constable killed by a bomb planted under his car by dissident republicans in Omagh, Co Tyrone.

    • May 2013: Fusilier Lee Rigby murdered by two Islamist extremists in Woolwich , south London.

    • December 2015: Three people stabbed in Leytonstone tube station, east London, by an attacker shouting ”This is for Syria”.

    • March 2016: Northern Ireland prison officer Adrian Ismay killed by a bomb planted under his car by republican dissidents. It exploded in east Belfast.

    • June 2016: Labour MP Jo Cox shot dead in her Yorkshire constituency by a rightwing, white supremacist.

    • 22 March 2017: Attack on Westminster leaves four dead and 20 injured.

    [https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/22/uk-terror-attacks-since-11-september-2001]Source[/url]

    So, according to this report we have the following totals from 2001 to 2017 in the UK:

    Deaths caused by Islamist Terrorism:                      57
    Deaths caused by neo-Nazi Terrorism:                    1
    Deaths caused by dissident Real-IRA Terrorism:      6

    Without a doubt, Islamist Terrorists are more deadly however, as we have seen, their attacks are less frequent...    ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 12:05pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:55am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:52am:
    Islamic jihad is the deadluest and most sifgnificant terrorist threat in Europe and around the world - but let's  focus on some obscure  stuff nobody knows about or has heard of and which bothers only obscure corners of obscure provinces.  Because talking about what is significant is actually 'Islamophobic' and 'insensitive' towards the jihadists' and their mums' feelings so it's verboten.


    Islamic jihad only accounts for 16% of attacks in Europe.

    Why are you ignoring trying to cover up the other 84% of attacks?

    Realising that Islamic jihad is the most significant and the deadliest is not 'covering up' anything, nobsocket. Having a Serious Crime Unit, for example,  is not 'covering up' other crimes, idiot son of Bwian.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 12:08pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 12:05pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:55am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:52am:
    Islamic jihad is the deadluest and most sifgnificant terrorist threat in Europe and around the world - but let's  focus on some obscure  stuff nobody knows about or has heard of and which bothers only obscure corners of obscure provinces.  Because talking about what is significant is actually 'Islamophobic' and 'insensitive' towards the jihadists' and their mums' feelings so it's verboten.


    Islamic jihad only accounts for 16% of attacks in Europe.

    Why are you ignoring trying to cover up the other 84% of attacks?

    Realising that Islamic jihad is the most significant and the deadliest is not 'covering up' anything, nobsocket. Having a Serious Crime Unit, for example,  is not 'covering up' other crimes, idiot son of Bwian.


    So, you acknowledge the fact that the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism, yeah?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:07pm
    Greggy has no shame,
    he even tried to make out that the Bourke street terrorist wasn't a terrorist:


    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1546325022/90#93


    6 killed & 27 injured - many maimed for life.
    The greatest terrorist apologist in Australia lives right here on Ozpolitic.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:09pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:07pm:
    Greggy has no shame,
    he even tried to make out that the Bourke street terrorist wasn't a terrorist:


    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1546325022/90#93


    6 killed & 27 injured - many maimed for life.
    The greatest terrorist apologist in Australia lives right here on Ozpolitic
    .


    It wasn't terrorism, Booby.

    You can't make up lies to support your (ridiculous) argument.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:13pm
    Greg will say just about anything to defend Islamic terrorism.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Dnarever on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:15pm

    Quote:
    There aren't many people left who are still willing to defend Islam


    In the first line you associate all Muslims with terrorism.

    This is the part that reasonable people disagree with. Nobody is defending terrorists. Many support innocent non terrorists.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:16pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:07pm:
    Greggy has no shame,
    he even tried to make out that the Bourke street terrorist wasn't a terrorist:


    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1546325022/90#93


    6 killed & 27 injured - many maimed for life.
    The greatest terrorist apologist in Australia lives right here on Ozpolitic.


    "defending terrorists with misleading statistics"?

    Nah.

    What we have is Bobby defending mass murderers with lies.

    Oh dear   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:18pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:
    Greg will say just about anything to defend Islamic terrorism.



    He tries to minimise the effects or trivialise it or
    he says that it wasn't terrorism even if the terrorist
    is a Muslim & yells out  allahu akbar.

    He expects people to swallow his rubbish progressive stories.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:20pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:18pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:
    Greg will say just about anything to defend Islamic terrorism.



    He tries to minimise the effects or trivialise it or
    he says that it wasn't terrorism even if the terrorist
    is a Muslim & yells out  allahu akbar.

    He expects people to swallow his rubbish progressive stories.


    Apologist for mass murderers.

    Tsk tsk   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:38pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:20pm:

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:18pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 3:13pm:
    Greg will say just about anything to defend Islamic terrorism.



    He tries to minimise the effects or trivialise it or
    he says that it wasn't terrorism even if the terrorist
    is a Muslim & yells out  allahu akbar.

    He expects people to swallow his rubbish progressive stories.


    Apologist for mass murderers.

    Tsk tsk   ::)




    Apologist.

    Stalin would have shot you in WW2
    for saying nice things about the Germans.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 4:15pm
    Heart attacks are a bigger killer than the common cold even though most people do not get a heart attack but almost everyone gets a cold a few times, some people even die of it, particularly if they have some other diseases or are old.

    Is the recognition that heart disease is a greater killer a 'cover up' up of the vastly more numerous incidences of the common cold? Only if you are a cockwomble like Bwian and Turd Bwianovic.  Only then would you say, 'never mind the heart attacks, more people get the cold, let's focus on that. Focusing on heart disease is cholesterophobic and hypertensionophobic'.

    .






    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 4:18pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 4:15pm:
    Heart attacks are a bigger killer than the common cold even though most people do not get a heart attack but almost everyone gets a cold a few times, some people even die of it, particularly if they have some other diseases or are old.

    Is the recognition that heart disease is a greater killer a 'cover up' up of the vastly more numerous incidences of the common cold? Only if you are a cockwomble like Bwian and Turd Bwianovic.  Only then would you say, 'never mind the heart attacks, more people get the cold, let's focus on that. Focusing on heart disease is cholesterophobic and hypertensionophobic'.


    It's not a cover up - it's changing the subject.

    We're talking about the total number of incidents - not the death toll.

    Capiche?




    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 5:07pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 4:15pm:
    Heart attacks are a bigger killer than the common cold even though most people do not get a heart attack but almost everyone gets a cold a few times, some people even die of it, particularly if they have some other diseases or are old.

    Is the recognition that heart disease is a greater killer a 'cover up' up of the vastly more numerous incidences of the common cold? Only if you are a cockwomble like Bwian and Turd Bwianovic.  Only then would you say, 'never mind the heart attacks, more people get the cold, let's focus on that. Focusing on heart disease is cholesterophobic and hypertensionophobic'.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren, completely unable to follow a logical argument.  Tsk, tsk, I really think you should have your phone taken away from you, Soren.  I'll tell your nurse.  I think it's time we put a stop to your outbreaks of Tourette's Syndrome in public.  Run along, back to your psych ward, OK?   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:19pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 5:07pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 4:15pm:
    Heart attacks are a bigger killer than the common cold even though most people do not get a heart attack but almost everyone gets a cold a few times, some people even die of it, particularly if they have some other diseases or are old.

    Is the recognition that heart disease is a greater killer a 'cover up' up of the vastly more numerous incidences of the common cold? Only if you are a cockwomble like Bwian and Turd Bwianovic.  Only then would you say, 'never mind the heart attacks, more people get the cold, let's focus on that. Focusing on heart disease is cholesterophobic and hypertensionophobic'.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren, completely unable to follow a logical argument.  Tsk, tsk, I really think you should have your phone taken away from you, Soren.  I'll tell your nurse.  I think it's time we put a stop to your outbreaks of Tourette's Syndrome in public.  Run along, back to your psych ward, OK?   ::) ::)

    you have no valid argument, let alone logical.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:19pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 5:07pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 4:15pm:
    Heart attacks are a bigger killer than the common cold even though most people do not get a heart attack but almost everyone gets a cold a few times, some people even die of it, particularly if they have some other diseases or are old.

    Is the recognition that heart disease is a greater killer a 'cover up' up of the vastly more numerous incidences of the common cold? Only if you are a cockwomble like Bwian and Turd Bwianovic.  Only then would you say, 'never mind the heart attacks, more people get the cold, let's focus on that. Focusing on heart disease is cholesterophobic and hypertensionophobic'.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren, completely unable to follow a logical argument.  Tsk, tsk, I really think you should have your phone taken away from you, Soren.  I'll tell your nurse.  I think it's time we put a stop to your outbreaks of Tourette's Syndrome in public.  Run along, back to your psych ward, OK?   ::) ::)

    you have no valid argument, let alone logical.


    Says the person who invariably resorts to personal ad hominem argument rather than discussing the issue.  Soren, you really are rather foolish.  Tsk, tsk, time for the Nurse to give you more medication...   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Need I remind you?  When you answer my questions, I may answer yours, FD.  Until then, you're just whistling dixie, OK?  Now, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where all your Islamophobe friends are.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Why do you ignore defend the 84% of terrorists in Europe who have nothing to do with Jihadism, FD?

    I'm curious.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:47pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:19pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 5:07pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 4:15pm:
    Heart attacks are a bigger killer than the common cold even though most people do not get a heart attack but almost everyone gets a cold a few times, some people even die of it, particularly if they have some other diseases or are old.

    Is the recognition that heart disease is a greater killer a 'cover up' up of the vastly more numerous incidences of the common cold? Only if you are a cockwomble like Bwian and Turd Bwianovic.  Only then would you say, 'never mind the heart attacks, more people get the cold, let's focus on that. Focusing on heart disease is cholesterophobic and hypertensionophobic'.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren, completely unable to follow a logical argument.  Tsk, tsk, I really think you should have your phone taken away from you, Soren.  I'll tell your nurse.  I think it's time we put a stop to your outbreaks of Tourette's Syndrome in public.  Run along, back to your psych ward, OK?   ::) ::)

    you have no valid argument, let alone logical.


    Says the person who invariably resorts to personal ad hominem argument rather than discussing the issue.  Soren, you really are rather foolish.  Tsk, tsk, time for the Nurse to give you more medication...   ::)



    I provide compelling arguments THEN I call you a cockwomble for being unable to do the same.  You have not provided a compelling or logical or insightful argument here or anywhere. Eye-rolling, tut tutting, islamophobe-mongering are your intellectual limits and you will never let us forget that, ever.

    You and your idiot son, Turd, imagine that faux-sophistry about 16 % and 84% is an argument because one number is greater than the other. But you merely do this to deny and ignore the fact that even the Europol report, where these numbers come from, identifies Islamic jihadi terrorism as by far the most serious and deadly terrorist threat.

    You are a bunch of hopeless cockwomblles, wankpuffets and nobsockets.


    See? - compelling argument THEN accurate characterisation of you two losers.




    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:49pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Why do you ignore defend the 84% of terrorists in Europe who have nothing to do with Jihadism, FD?

    I'm curious.

    Here's fvckwit No2, on cue.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:50pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:47pm:
    I provide compelling arguments THEN I call you a cockwomble for being unable to do the same.  You have not provided a compelling or logical or insightful argument here or anywhere. Eye-rolling, tut tutting, islamophobe-mongering are your intellectual limits and you will never let us forget that, ever.

    You and your idiot son, Turd, imagine that faux-sophistry about 16 % and 84% is an argument because one number is greater than the other. But you merely do this to deny and ignore the fact that even the Europol report, where these numbers come from, identifies Islamic jihadi terrorism as by far the most serious and deadly terrorist threat.

    You are a bunch of hopeless cockwomblles, wankpuffets and nobsockets.


    See? - compelling argument THEN accurate characterisation of you two losers.



    I believe that Brian & Greggy fully understand that
    and are only baiting anyone silly enough to argue with them.
    All they want is attention and they're not sincere.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:53pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:19pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 5:07pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 4:15pm:
    Heart attacks are a bigger killer than the common cold even though most people do not get a heart attack but almost everyone gets a cold a few times, some people even die of it, particularly if they have some other diseases or are old.

    Is the recognition that heart disease is a greater killer a 'cover up' up of the vastly more numerous incidences of the common cold? Only if you are a cockwomble like Bwian and Turd Bwianovic.  Only then would you say, 'never mind the heart attacks, more people get the cold, let's focus on that. Focusing on heart disease is cholesterophobic and hypertensionophobic'.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren, completely unable to follow a logical argument.  Tsk, tsk, I really think you should have your phone taken away from you, Soren.  I'll tell your nurse.  I think it's time we put a stop to your outbreaks of Tourette's Syndrome in public.  Run along, back to your psych ward, OK?   ::) ::)

    you have no valid argument, let alone logical.


    Says the person who invariably resorts to personal ad hominem argument rather than discussing the issue.  Soren, you really are rather foolish.  Tsk, tsk, time for the Nurse to give you more medication...   ::)


    I provide compelling arguments THEN I call you a cockwomble for being unable to do the same.  You have not provided a compelling or logical or insightful argument here or anywhere. Eye-rolling, tut tutting, islamophobe-mongering are your intellectual limits and you will never let us forget that, ever.

    You and your idiot son, Turd, imagine that faux-sophistry about 16 % and 84% is an argument because one number is greater than the other. But you merely do this to deny and ignore the fact that even the Europol report, where these numbers come from, identifies Islamic jihadi terrorism as by far the most serious and deadly terrorist threat.

    You are a bunch of hopeless cockwomblles, wankpuffets and nobsockets.

    See? - compelling argument THEN accurate characterisation of you two losers.


    Poor, poor, Soren.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Why is that invariably I am able to destroy any of your attempts that you claim are "logical" because they are shown to be based upon Islamophobia/Racism/Bigotry/etc.?    I know more about politics and history than it appears you ever will.   Run along, you're wasting all our time.   In fact, is that your Nurse with your night-time medication, Soren?  Time for beddy-byes.    ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:57pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:50pm:
    I believe that Brian & Greggy fully understand that
    and are only baiting anyone silly enough to argue with them.
    All they want is attention and they're not sincere.


    Bobby, I am very sincere.  I do not believe people should be condemned on the basis of association with other people.  It is like claiming that all Italians are members of the Mafia.  Demonstrably untrue, yet bigots will still occasionally claim it.  Not all Muslims are evil, few support Terrorism and most are law-abiding, well adjusted and well assimilate to Western society.   You however seem to resort to simplistic solutions to all crimes.  If you're not allowed to hang people you get upset.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:00pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:53pm:
    Why is that invariably I am able to destroy any of your attempts that you claim are "logical" because they are shown to be based upon Islamophobia/Racism/Bigotry/etc.?    I know more about politics and history than it appears you ever will. 



    You know nothing and you can't think straight. You wouldn't know logic if it was up you, let alone having an insight and being able to articulate it. You are an inadequate fool, destroying only your own standing and reputation with every utterance, Bwian, Spineless Apologist-in-Chief.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:09pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:00pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:53pm:
    Why is that invariably I am able to destroy any of your attempts that you claim are "logical" because they are shown to be based upon Islamophobia/Racism/Bigotry/etc.?    I know more about politics and history than it appears you ever will. 



    You know nothing and you can't think straight. You wouldn't know logic if it was up you, let alone having an insight and being able to articulate it. You are an inadequate fool, destroying only your own standing and reputation with every utterance, Bwian, Spineless Apologist-in-Chief.


    Oh, dearie, dearie me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Resorting to ad hominem insults, yet again.  I know when you've lost 'cause you invariably reach for your standard insults.  Such a silly sausage.  Time for our night-time medication.   Nighty-Night!   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:12pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:00pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:53pm:
    Why is that invariably I am able to destroy any of your attempts that you claim are "logical" because they are shown to be based upon Islamophobia/Racism/Bigotry/etc.?    I know more about politics and history than it appears you ever will. 



    You know nothing and you can't think straight. You wouldn't know logic if it was up you, let alone having an insight and being able to articulate it. You are an inadequate fool, destroying only your own standing and reputation with every utterance, Bwian, Spineless Apologist-in-Chief.


    Oh, dearie, dearie me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Resorting to ad hominem insults, yet again.  I know when you've lost 'cause you invariably reach for your standard insults.  Such a silly sausage.  Time for our night-time medication.   Nighty-Night!   ::) ::)

    Gissa a logical, insightful argument, Bwian, don't forever hide (relieved that you don't have to think) behind my diagnosis of you.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:18pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:12pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:00pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:53pm:
    Why is that invariably I am able to destroy any of your attempts that you claim are "logical" because they are shown to be based upon Islamophobia/Racism/Bigotry/etc.?    I know more about politics and history than it appears you ever will. 



    You know nothing and you can't think straight. You wouldn't know logic if it was up you, let alone having an insight and being able to articulate it. You are an inadequate fool, destroying only your own standing and reputation with every utterance, Bwian, Spineless Apologist-in-Chief.


    Oh, dearie, dearie me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Resorting to ad hominem insults, yet again.  I know when you've lost 'cause you invariably reach for your standard insults.  Such a silly sausage.  Time for our night-time medication.   Nighty-Night!   ::) ::)

    Gissa a logical, insightful argument, Bwian, don't forever hide (relieved that you don't have to think) behind my diagnosis of you.


    Nearly all my posts are logical and insightful arguments, Soren.  That you cannot or more likely will not recognise that suggests what about your antipathy towards me?  Run along, here is your Nurse with your medications.  Enjoy your sleep.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:01pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Do you have an opinion, FD? Please feel free to reply.

    Unless, of course, something's holding you back.

    Is it?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:02pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:12pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:09pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 9:00pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:53pm:
    Why is that invariably I am able to destroy any of your attempts that you claim are "logical" because they are shown to be based upon Islamophobia/Racism/Bigotry/etc.?    I know more about politics and history than it appears you ever will. 



    You know nothing and you can't think straight. You wouldn't know logic if it was up you, let alone having an insight and being able to articulate it. You are an inadequate fool, destroying only your own standing and reputation with every utterance, Bwian, Spineless Apologist-in-Chief.


    Oh, dearie, dearie me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Resorting to ad hominem insults, yet again.  I know when you've lost 'cause you invariably reach for your standard insults.  Such a silly sausage.  Time for our night-time medication.   Nighty-Night!   ::) ::)

    Gissa a logical, insightful argument, Bwian, don't forever hide (relieved that you don't have to think) behind my diagnosis of you.


    The old boy has a diagnosis, FD.

    Chop chop.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 9:42am

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Need I remind you?  When you answer my questions, I may answer yours, FD.  Until then, you're just whistling dixie, OK?  Now, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where all your Islamophobe friends are.   ::)


    Until then, you and Greg will ride that Islamic terrorist bandwagon. Page after page after page. And blame me for your fear of your own opinion.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 10:13am

    Quote:

    Karnal wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:01pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Do you have an opinion, FD? Please feel free to reply.

    Unless, of course, something's holding you back.

    Is it?

    I was talking to Bwian, PB.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by issuevoter on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 10:14am

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 9:42am:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Need I remind you?  When you answer my questions, I may answer yours, FD.  Until then, you're just whistling dixie, OK?  Now, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where all your Islamophobe friends are.   ::)


    Until then, you and Greg will ride that Islamic terrorist bandwagon. Page after page after page. And blame me for your fear of your own opinion.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    Of course not. He's a Doctor of Divinity, and holds the moral high ground.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 10:18am

    Frank wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 10:13am:

    Quote:

    Karnal wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 11:01pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Do you have an opinion, FD? Please feel free to reply.

    Unless, of course, something's holding you back.

    Is it?

    I was talking to Bwian, PB.


    I was talking to FD, OB.

    He's too scared of his own opinion to reply.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 10:20am

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 9:42am:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Need I remind you?  When you answer my questions, I may answer yours, FD.  Until then, you're just whistling dixie, OK?  Now, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where all your Islamophobe friends are.   ::)


    Until then, you and Greg will ride that Islamic terrorist bandwagon. Page after page after page. And blame me for your fear of your own opinion.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    Who do you blame, FD?

    Oh, I know. You blame Islam, ya?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 10:58am

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 9:42am:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Need I remind you?  When you answer my questions, I may answer yours, FD.  Until then, you're just whistling dixie, OK?  Now, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where all your Islamophobe friends are.   ::)


    Until then, you and Greg will ride that Islamic terrorist bandwagon. Page after page after page. And blame me for your fear of your own opinion.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Need I remind you?  When you answer my questions, I may answer yours, FD.  Until then, you're just whistling dixie, OK?  Now, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where all your Islamophobe friends are.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 11:11am
    Brian do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 11:31am

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 11:11am:
    Brian do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    Provide some evidence that I have "defended Muslim Terrorists," FD.

    Here, this is a space for your evidence, off you go!


    Quote:














    I suspect you'll slink away after asking more questions.  When you answer mine, I may answer yours.  Your strategy of poo-stirring doesn't work with me.  So, run along back to your little kiddies' playground.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)




    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by The Reboot on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:09pm

    issuevoter wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 10:14am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 9:42am:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:28pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 8:15pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    13 pages in and Brian and Greg are still riding the Islamic terrorist bandwagon.

    Shameless.


    I am merely replying to the foolish comments directed to me, Freediver.  If anybody is "riding the Terrorist bandwagon," it is you and your fellow Islamophobes.   Without Muslims to hate, what would you do?  You'd be lost.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    You are on the Islamic terrorist bandwagon Brian. This is classic spineless apologetics.

    You have lost the ability to form an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics to defend terrorists. You post in this thread compulsively, but are afraid of your own opinion on the thread topic. You are not "merely replying". You are afraid to reply.


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Need I remind you?  When you answer my questions, I may answer yours, FD.  Until then, you're just whistling dixie, OK?  Now, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where all your Islamophobe friends are.   ::)


    Until then, you and Greg will ride that Islamic terrorist bandwagon. Page after page after page. And blame me for your fear of your own opinion.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    Of course not. He's a Doctor of Divinity, and holds the moral high ground.


    And he's so much more intelligent than the rest of this forum, dearie.  ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:51pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)


    I have provided evidence. I started this thread for you and Greg to post your snivelling defense of Muslim terrorists in, and you obliged. And now I present it back to you.

    So here you are, Greg and Brian defending Muslim terrorists.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 3:41pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)


    I have provided evidence. I started this thread for you and Greg to post your snivelling defense of Muslim terrorists in, and you obliged. And now I present it back to you.

    So here you are, Greg and Brian defending Muslim terrorists.



    Forgive them for they know not what they are doing.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:04pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 3:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)


    I have provided evidence. I started this thread for you and Greg to post your snivelling defense of Muslim terrorists in, and you obliged. And now I present it back to you.

    So here you are, Greg and Brian defending Muslim terrorists.


    Forgive them for they know not what they are doing.


    FD needs your forgiveness, Bobby, not me.  He is the Islamophobe who is throwing mud.  When he grows up and actually makes an effort to support his case, I might answer his questions.  Until then, we have this standoff.  It goes no where.   He is being childish and it shows.

    So, FD, when are you going to answer my questions, Mmmm?   Tsk, tsk, your mud throwing just slides off my shields.    ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Baronvonrort on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:50pm

    rhino wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:47pm:

    Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:27pm:

    Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:21pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:

    Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
    Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-foiled-and-completed-attacks-1002-arrests-and-142-victims-died

    135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


    I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   ::)



    As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


    135 of the 142 killed in terrorist attacks were a result of  Islamic terrorists, muslims  are about 5% of the population in Europe, the other 7 killed were a result of non muslims who make up the other 95% of the population in Europe.


    Quote:
    Muslims make up 4.9% of Europe’s population in 2016

    http://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/



    In Pakistan which is 99% muslim how many die from terrorism in the land of the pure?
    [quote]
    Terrorism in Pakistan

    Terrorism in Pakistan has become a major and highly destructive phenomenon in recent years. The annual death toll from terrorist attacks has risen from 164 in 2003 to 3318 in 2009,[1][2][3] with a total of 35,000 Pakistanis killed between 11 September 2001 and May 2011.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Pakistan



    It woulld be interesting to add up Islamic terrorist deaths from all the countries where Islam dominates the demographics, oh dearie dearie me it doesn't look good tsk tsk tsk  ::)


    At 5% of the population muslims have racked up 135 of the 142 dead bodies from terrorism.
    Yes. Thats the only statistic in this conversation we should be concerned about. Why do you think Pecca and Brian consistently apologise for Islamic extremists?
    [/quote]

    I have no idea why Little pecca and Brian consistently apologise for Islamic extremists, perhaps it's moral bankruptcy or mental retardation

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:55pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 3:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)


    I have provided evidence. I started this thread for you and Greg to post your snivelling defense of Muslim terrorists in, and you obliged. And now I present it back to you.

    So here you are, Greg and Brian defending Muslim terrorists.


    Forgive them for they know not what they are doing.


    FD needs your forgiveness, Bobby, not me.  He is the Islamophobe who is throwing mud.  When he grows up and actually makes an effort to support his case, I might answer his questions.  Until then, we have this standoff.  It goes no where.   He is being childish and it shows.

    So, FD, when are you going to answer my questions, Mmmm?   Tsk, tsk, your mud throwing just slides off my shields.    ::) ::)


    It was a question Brian. I asked you your opinion. You ran away.  I am not going to bother proving something if no-one disagrees with it.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 5:24pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:04pm:
    So, FD, when are you going to answer my questions, Mmmm?   Tsk, tsk, your mud throwing just slides off my shields.    ::) ::)


    What question? Whether 84 for is a bigger number than 16?


    ( You have shields???  :D :D :D :D)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 6:02pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:55pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 3:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)


    I have provided evidence. I started this thread for you and Greg to post your snivelling defense of Muslim terrorists in, and you obliged. And now I present it back to you.

    So here you are, Greg and Brian defending Muslim terrorists.


    Forgive them for they know not what they are doing.


    FD needs your forgiveness, Bobby, not me.  He is the Islamophobe who is throwing mud.  When he grows up and actually makes an effort to support his case, I might answer his questions.  Until then, we have this standoff.  It goes no where.   He is being childish and it shows.

    So, FD, when are you going to answer my questions, Mmmm?   Tsk, tsk, your mud throwing just slides off my shields.    ::) ::)


    It was a question Brian. I asked you your opinion. You ran away.  I am not going to bother proving something if no-one disagrees with it.


    Did anyone ask for your opinion, FD?

    What was your answer?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm
    FROM EUROPOL

    TERRORIST THREAT IN E.U. REMAINS HIGH      

    MAIN TRENDS

    These attacks killed 68 victims and left 844 injured. Nearly all casualties (62) were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


    68 people were killed in Europe by terrorists if the apologists figures are right this means that:

    84% of attacks killed 6 people, which equates to 0.0714 deaths per attack.

    16% of the attacks killed 62 people which equates to 3.875 deaths per attack.

    O.K so muslims kill 3.875 people per attack, non muslims kill 0.0714 per attack.

    Which means that muslims are 54.271 times more likely to kill innocent people than anybody else.

    So the facts are that non muslims carry out the  most attacks delivering the least amount of fatalities.

    muslims kill 54.271 times more people with the least amount of attacks, as their terrorism is maximum lethal force aimed at the soft target, (innocent men women and children of the general public).

    islamic terrorism is still the highest threat.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 6:20pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)


    I have provided evidence. I started this thread for you and Greg to post your snivelling defense of Muslim terrorists in, and you obliged. And now I present it back to you.

    So here you are, Greg and Brian defending Muslim terrorists.


    Yes, FD, but why have you tried to hide your support for white supremacist terrorism?

    Why aren't you expressing your pride that members of the white race are finally standing up for your people and attempting to compete with the jihadists on the body-count?

    Why don't you show your gratitude for your white brothers who lay their lives on the line so that you can live in a society without having to cross paths or interbreed with any inferior races?

    And why do you continue to refuse to salute those who are prepared to exterminate your race-enemies while you cower in a corner out of fear of being called a racist?

    Remember, sometimes a question is just a question.

    What's your answer?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:25am

    moses wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm:
    FROM EUROPOL

    TERRORIST THREAT IN E.U. REMAINS HIGH      

    MAIN TRENDS

    These attacks killed 68 victims and left 844 injured. Nearly all casualties (62) were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


    68 people were killed in Europe by terrorists if the apologists figures are right this means that:

    84% of attacks killed 6 people, which equates to 0.0714 deaths per attack.

    16% of the attacks killed 62 people which equates to 3.875 deaths per attack.

    O.K so muslims kill 3.875 people per attack, non muslims kill 0.0714 per attack.

    Which means that muslims are 54.271 times more likely to kill innocent people than anybody else.

    So the facts are that non muslims carry out the  most attacks delivering the least amount of fatalities.

    muslims kill 54.271 times more people with the least amount of attacks, as their terrorism is maximum lethal force aimed at the soft target, (innocent men women and children of the general public).

    islamic terrorism is still the highest threat.


    Thanks, Moses. How did you arrive at the 54.271 figure?

    Any chance you could provide the number for the tinted races?

    We know they're about 400% more likely to outbreed us, but how likely are they to kill?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:27am

    moses wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm:
    FROM EUROPOL

    TERRORIST THREAT IN E.U. REMAINS HIGH      

    MAIN TRENDS

    These attacks killed 68 victims and left 844 injured. Nearly all casualties (62) were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


    68 people were killed in Europe by terrorists if the apologists figures are right this means that:

    84% of attacks killed 6 people, which equates to 0.0714 deaths per attack.

    16% of the attacks killed 62 people which equates to 3.875 deaths per attack.

    O.K so muslims kill 3.875 people per attack, non muslims kill 0.0714 per attack.

    Which means that muslims are 54.271 times more likely to kill innocent people than anybody else.

    So the facts are that non muslims carry out the  most attacks delivering the least amount of fatalities.

    muslims kill 54.271 times more people with the least amount of attacks, as their terrorism is maximum lethal force aimed at the soft target, (innocent men women and children of the general public).

    islamic terrorism is still the highest threat.


    Correct.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:30am

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:27am:

    moses wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 6:14pm:
    FROM EUROPOL

    TERRORIST THREAT IN E.U. REMAINS HIGH      

    MAIN TRENDS

    These attacks killed 68 victims and left 844 injured. Nearly all casualties (62) were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


    68 people were killed in Europe by terrorists if the apologists figures are right this means that:

    84% of attacks killed 6 people, which equates to 0.0714 deaths per attack.

    16% of the attacks killed 62 people which equates to 3.875 deaths per attack.

    O.K so muslims kill 3.875 people per attack, non muslims kill 0.0714 per attack.

    Which means that muslims are 54.271 times more likely to kill innocent people than anybody else.

    So the facts are that non muslims carry out the  most attacks delivering the least amount of fatalities.

    muslims kill 54.271 times more people with the least amount of attacks, as their terrorism is maximum lethal force aimed at the soft target, (innocent men women and children of the general public).

    islamic terrorism is still the highest threat.


    Correct.

    Significance, sh!ttypetty?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 12:37pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:55pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 3:41pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)


    I have provided evidence. I started this thread for you and Greg to post your snivelling defense of Muslim terrorists in, and you obliged. And now I present it back to you.

    So here you are, Greg and Brian defending Muslim terrorists.


    Forgive them for they know not what they are doing.


    FD needs your forgiveness, Bobby, not me.  He is the Islamophobe who is throwing mud.  When he grows up and actually makes an effort to support his case, I might answer his questions.  Until then, we have this standoff.  It goes no where.   He is being childish and it shows.

    So, FD, when are you going to answer my questions, Mmmm?   Tsk, tsk, your mud throwing just slides off my shields.    ::) ::)


    It was a question Brian. I asked you your opinion. You ran away.  I am not going to bother proving something if no-one disagrees with it.


    So, FD, when are you going to answer my questions, Mmmm?   Tsk, tsk, your mud throwing just slides off my shields.    ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 12:50pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 5:24pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 4:04pm:
    So, FD, when are you going to answer my questions, Mmmm?   Tsk, tsk, your mud throwing just slides off my shields.    ::) ::)


    What question? Whether 84 for is a bigger number than 16?


    I refer you to the two questions I asked here, Soren.  Neither is hard.  FD refuses to answer them for some (not) obscure reason.   ::)


    Quote:
    ( You have shields???  :D :D :D :D)


    Yes, I have shields.  They are presently set to a low level (because they aren't faced by anything difficult, just the usual Islamophobic bullshit).   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 4th, 2019 at 12:51pm
    Wunaway Brian.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:34pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 12:51pm:
    Wunaway Brian.


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD.  Until you do, you will not get an answer to me.   The only person running is yourself.  Keep it up, it is amusing to watch.  Tsk, tsk.  Such a shining light amongst our community, hey?   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:47pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Why don't you believe the police?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:51pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:47pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Why don't you believe the police?
    It's still being investigated. The inside knowledge from eyewitness accounts is that it was a terrorist attack. We'll see what happens.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:56pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:47pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Why don't you believe the police?
    It's still being investigated. The inside knowledge from eyewitness accounts is that it was a terrorist attack. We'll see what happens.


    Yet the police - an independent third party - say otherwise.

    Sounds to me like more of your racist/Islamophobic paranoid nonsense, Mr Hammer.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:01pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    No need to get insulting, Hammer.  It just shows how childish you are.  Tsk, tsk.  Sounds like bullshit to me.  I won't bother looking 'cause I cannot find anything...   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:02pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:01pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    No need to get insulting, Hammer.  It just shows how childish you are.  Tsk, tsk.  Sounds like bullshit to me.  I won't bother looking 'cause I cannot find anything...   ::)

    you won't look because you are a do-gooder.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:08pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:02pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:01pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    No need to get insulting, Hammer.  It just shows how childish you are.  Tsk, tsk.  Sounds like bullshit to me.  I won't bother looking 'cause I cannot find anything...   ::)

    you won't look because you are a do-gooder.



    Actually, I have found a report - because I didn't stop looking, Hammer.  Appears to me, that your claims are based on Islamophobic claims.  Rather typical of you and them, Hammer.   The Police have found no evidence, thus far of Terrorism.  No one appears to have claimed the event.  Sounds to me like a common hit and run accident, nothing more.   Tsk, tsk.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:18pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    or the victims brother who was at the scene.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:20pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    or the victims brother who was at the scene.


    The police.

    Any reasonable person would take notice of the police, rather than a direct relative or a right-wing terrorist who has a grudge against police and Muslims.

    Reasonable, and objective - something quite alien to you, I know.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:22pm
    This is what Tommy put out on facebook-

    I have been informed by his family that this serving soldier was out celebrating the new year in Batley when he was overheard in conversation with his friend talking about his last tour. It is alleged that around 15 Muslim males took offence to him being a serving soldier, started intimidating him calling him scum. It escalated and he and his friend were set upon by 15 males. This young soldier tried to step away across the road to diffuse the situation. It is then alleged that one of the Muslim males got into his Mercedes and proceeded to mount the kerb and mow down the soldier at circa 50mph according to an eyewitness. The Soldier is in the intensive care at Leeds Hospital. According to individuals who were at the scene this was sparked over a conversation about him in the forces. If it is politically motivated due to him serving in the forces then should it not be treated as a terrorist attack? Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel?? My thoughts are with this young man's family who have been in contact with me to inform me of the details and asked me to share. I hope he can recover from what would appear to be potentially another politically motivated attack. a go fund me page has been set up for the soldier

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:24pm

    "Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

    "His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

    "He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."


    ;D

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:22pm:
    Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??


    Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

    Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

    Now, back to Tommy:

    "Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

    "His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

    "He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:44pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:22pm:
    Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??


    Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

    Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

    Now, back to Tommy:

    "Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

    "His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

    "He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

    hit and run?  ;D ;D ;D That was attempted murder using a motor vehicle muppet. ;D ;D ;D ISIS style!

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:53pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:22pm:
    Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??


    Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

    Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

    Now, back to Tommy:

    "Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

    "His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

    "He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

    hit and run?  ;D ;D ;D That was attempted murder using a motor vehicle muppet. ;D ;D ;D ISIS style!


    If a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer says so, then it must be true?




    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:24pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:53pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:22pm:
    Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??


    Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

    Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

    Now, back to Tommy:

    "Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

    "His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

    "He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

    hit and run?  ;D ;D ;D That was attempted murder using a motor vehicle muppet. ;D ;D ;D ISIS style!


    If a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer says so, then it must be true?

    People with form can still tell the truth Pecca.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:26pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:02pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:01pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    No need to get insulting, Hammer.  It just shows how childish you are.  Tsk, tsk.  Sounds like bullshit to me.  I won't bother looking 'cause I cannot find anything...   ::)

    you won't look because you are a do-gooder.



    Actually, I have found a report - because I didn't stop looking, Hammer.  Appears to me, that your claims are based on Islamophobic claims.  Rather typical of you and them, Hammer.   The Police have found no evidence, thus far of Terrorism.  No one appears to have claimed the event.  Sounds to me like a common hit and run accident, nothing more.   Tsk, tsk.   ::)



    If it had been a white Anglo person driving that car his name and picture would be all over the internet.  The plod being 'open minded' is code for 'it was a Muslim/third worlder but we mustn't say so'.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:35pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.



    Actually, he didn't.  He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on.  They complied.  Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred. 


    Quote:
    Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission


    Quote:
    The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

    [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Arrest_and_Rivonia_trial:_1962%E2%80%931964]Source[/url]

    Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:36pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:26pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:02pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:01pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    No need to get insulting, Hammer.  It just shows how childish you are.  Tsk, tsk.  Sounds like bullshit to me.  I won't bother looking 'cause I cannot find anything...   ::)

    you won't look because you are a do-gooder.



    Actually, I have found a report - because I didn't stop looking, Hammer.  Appears to me, that your claims are based on Islamophobic claims.  Rather typical of you and them, Hammer.   The Police have found no evidence, thus far of Terrorism.  No one appears to have claimed the event.  Sounds to me like a common hit and run accident, nothing more.   Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    If it had been a white Anglo person driving that car his name and picture would be all over the internet.  The plod being 'open minded' is code for 'it was a Muslim/third worlder but we mustn't say so'.


    *SIGH*, Islamophobia, hey, Soren.  How unusual for you.  Stop wasting our time.   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:39pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:53pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:22pm:
    Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??


    Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

    Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

    Now, back to Tommy:

    "Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

    "His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

    "He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

    hit and run?  ;D ;D ;D That was attempted murder using a motor vehicle muppet. ;D ;D ;D ISIS style!


    If a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer says so, then it must be true?

    People with form can still tell the truth Pecca.


    He doesn't just have form.

    He's an Islamophobe who hates cops.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:44pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.



    Actually, he didn't.  He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on.  They complied.  Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred. 


    Quote:
    Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

    [quote]
    The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

    [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Arrest_and_Rivonia_trial:_1962%E2%80%931964]Source[/url]

    Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   ::) ::)[/quote]
    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.


    ;D ;D ;D ;D

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:48pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.



    Actually, he didn't.  He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on.  They complied.  Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred. 


    Quote:
    Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

    [quote]
    The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

    [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Arrest_and_Rivonia_trial:_1962%E2%80%931964]Source[/url]

    Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   ::) ::)

    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.


    ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

    That's right, folks: this is where Mr Hammer, once again, tries to change the subject (despite the fact that I've said on numerous occasions in this forum that I was never a fan or Nelson or his wife).

    Let's see what subject he'll come up with next.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Mr Hammer on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:50pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.



    Actually, he didn't.  He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on.  They complied.  Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred. 


    Quote:
    Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

    [quote]
    The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

    [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Arrest_and_Rivonia_trial:_1962%E2%80%931964]Source[/url]

    Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   ::) ::)

    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.


    ;D ;D ;D ;D


    That's right, folks: this is where Mr Hammer, once again, tries to change the subject (despite the fact that I've said on numerous occasions in this forum that I was never a fan or Nelson or his wife).

    Let's see what subject he'll come up with next.

    [/quote]
    Look at Pecca getting triggered because his hero murdered women and children. He's about to jizz all over his dungarees.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:06pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.



    Actually, he didn't.  He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on.  They complied.  Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred. 


    Quote:
    Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

    [quote]
    The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

    [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Arrest_and_Rivonia_trial:_1962%E2%80%931964]Source[/url]

    Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   ::) ::)

    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.


    ;D ;D ;D ;D


    That's right, folks: this is where Mr Hammer, once again, tries to change the subject (despite the fact that I've said on numerous occasions in this forum that I was never a fan or Nelson or his wife).

    Let's see what subject he'll come up with next.

    Look at Pecca getting triggered because his hero murdered women and children. He's about to jizz all over his dungarees.[/quote]

    Changing the subject didn't work, so now he tries lies.

    What's next - shall we take bets?

    ;D

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:09pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:06pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.



    Actually, he didn't.  He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on.  They complied.  Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred. 


    Quote:
    Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

    [quote]
    The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

    [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Arrest_and_Rivonia_trial:_1962%E2%80%931964]Source[/url]

    Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   ::) ::)

    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.


    ;D ;D ;D ;D


    That's right, folks: this is where Mr Hammer, once again, tries to change the subject (despite the fact that I've said on numerous occasions in this forum that I was never a fan or Nelson or his wife).

    Let's see what subject he'll come up with next.

    Look at Pecca getting triggered because his hero murdered women and children. He's about to jizz all over his dungarees.


    Changing the subject didn't work, so now he tries lies.

    What's next - shall we take bets?

    ;D[/quote]

    My money's on personal insults.

    Let's see ...    :-/

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:17pm

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer.  Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit?  Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise?  You need to get out from your mother's basement.   It's not healthy down there.   ::)

    look harder douche nozzle.


    I looked harder.

    Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

    So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

    Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

    Ah.

    Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

    A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

    Ah   ::)

    Starting to make sense now.

    Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.


    Hmm, who should we believe:

    - the police, or

    - a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

    Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

    So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.



    Actually, he didn't.  He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on.  They complied.  Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred. 


    Quote:
    Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

    [quote]
    The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

    [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela#Arrest_and_Rivonia_trial:_1962%E2%80%931964]Source[/url]

    Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   ::) ::)

    Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.


    ;D ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

    Except, Hammer, the Johannesburg railway station bombing occurred after Mandela had been arrested in 1962 and placed on trial.  Bit hard to be held responsible for an act of Terrorism which occurred after the police had arrested you.   Did they give him day release to plant the bomb, Hammer, Mmmm?   ::)

    Most Terrorist acts of MK occurred after Mandela had been arrested, charged and imprisoned on Robben Island - a remote prison off of Cape Town where his communications were limited.  ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:56pm
    karnal wrote Reply #220 - Today at 10:25am

    Quote:
    Thanks, Moses. How did you arrive at the 54.271 figure?


    I reiterate:

    TERRORIST THREAT IN E.U. REMAINS HIGH      

    MAIN TRENDS

    These attacks killed 68 victims and left 844 injured. Nearly all casualties (62) were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


    68 people were killed in Europe by terrorists if the apologists figures are right this means that:

    84% of attacks killed 6 people, which equates to 0.0714 deaths per attack.

    16% of the attacks killed 62 people which equates to 3.875 deaths per attack.

    O.K so muslims kill 3.875 people per attack, non muslims kill 0.0714 per attack.

    Which means that muslims are 54.271 times more likely to kill innocent people than anybody else.



    muslims kill 54.271 times more people with the least amount of attacks, as their modus operandi is maximum lethal force aimed at the soft target, (innocent men women and children of the general public).

    islamic terrorism is still the highest threat.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 4th, 2019 at 8:16pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
    Except, Hammer, the Johannesburg railway station bombing occurred after Mandela had been arrested in 1962 and placed on trial.  Bit hard to be held responsible for an act of Terrorism which occurred after the police had arrested you.   Did they give him day release to plant the bomb, Hammer, Mmmm?   ::)

    Most Terrorist acts of MK occurred after Mandela had been arrested, charged and imprisoned on Robben Island - a remote prison off of Cape Town where his communications were limited.  ::)

    Was he a 'lone wolf' like the hordes of Islamic jihadist operating across the world?





    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 4th, 2019 at 8:34pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
    Except, Hammer, the Johannesburg railway station bombing occurred after Mandela had been arrested in 1962 and placed on trial.  Bit hard to be held responsible for an act of Terrorism which occurred after the police had arrested you.   Did they give him day release to plant the bomb, Hammer, Mmmm?   ::)

    Most Terrorist acts of MK occurred after Mandela had been arrested, charged and imprisoned on Robben Island - a remote prison off of Cape Town where his communications were limited.  ::)

    Was he a 'lone wolf' like the hordes of Islamic jihadist operating across the world?


    Some Terrorists are, most aren't, Soren.  Nelson Mandela was initially the leader of the MK, after his arrest and imprisonment, he was a lonely prisoner in a maximum security prison, cut off from his supporters and subordinates.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 4th, 2019 at 8:52pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 8:34pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
    Except, Hammer, the Johannesburg railway station bombing occurred after Mandela had been arrested in 1962 and placed on trial.  Bit hard to be held responsible for an act of Terrorism which occurred after the police had arrested you.   Did they give him day release to plant the bomb, Hammer, Mmmm?   ::)

    Most Terrorist acts of MK occurred after Mandela had been arrested, charged and imprisoned on Robben Island - a remote prison off of Cape Town where his communications were limited.  ::)

    Was he a 'lone wolf' like the hordes of Islamic jihadist operating across the world?


    Some Terrorists are, most aren't, Soren.  Nelson Mandela was initially the leader of the MK, after his arrest and imprisonment, he was a lonely prisoner in a maximum security prison, cut off from his supporters and subordinates.   ::)

    Not a lone wolf then but a terrorist insurgent.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:19am

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:08pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 8:14pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 7:18pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:23pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:40pm:
    Here we have a thread choc full of Brian and Greg using misleading statistics


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, telling lies again, FD?  Really?  How unbecoming of you.  How about you answer the questions I have asked in that thread and which you have continually run away from?   Anybody would think you're a coward, the way you're refusing to answer my questions and creating new threads all over the place.   As the great Bard said, "Cowards die many times before their deaths."   Keep running, FD, it won't save you...   ::) ::)

    What's the question, dickheaddle?


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Resorting to ad hominem insults again?  Tsk, tsk.  I provided a link here did you miss it?  Really?   ::) ::)

    Where's the question, dickheaddle?
    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1539592672;virboard=;quote=61;title=PostReply

    Nobody said - other than you dicks - that the Europol report misrepresented anything.


    Really?  I think it was FD who ran the line that Greg was "misleading" people with invalid statistics first, Soren.  Perhaps you need to reread the thread?


    It's in the thread title Brian. Surely you could have read that far before posting?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 5th, 2019 at 11:00am
    Excuse me, FD, you didn't answer this one:


    Karnal wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 6:20pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:29pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2019 at 12:04pm:
    Sure Brian. This thread is evidence.

    Do you feel any shame at all in defending Muslim terrorists?


    See, I was correct, you have slunk away and asked more questions.  Provide evidence.  Where have I "defended" Muslim Terrorists?   Or are you just interested still in throwing mud in the hope some will stick...  Tsk, tsk.  Little boy's strategies, hey, FD?   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground where all your little friends play such games.   When you're serious and answer my questions, I may answer yours.    ::) ::)


    I have provided evidence. I started this thread for you and Greg to post your snivelling defense of Muslim terrorists in, and you obliged. And now I present it back to you.

    So here you are, Greg and Brian defending Muslim terrorists.


    Yes, FD, but why have you tried to hide your support for white supremacist terrorism?

    Why aren't you expressing your pride that members of the white race are finally standing up for your people and attempting to compete with the jihadists on the body-count?

    Why don't you show your gratitude for your white brothers who lay their lives on the line so that you can live in a society without having to cross paths or interbreed with any inferior races?

    And why do you continue to refuse to salute those who are prepared to exterminate your race-enemies while you cower in a corner out of fear of being called a racist?

    Remember, sometimes a question is just a question.

    What's your answer?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 5th, 2019 at 11:03am

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:47pm:

    Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
    There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.


    Why don't you believe the police?
    It's still being investigated. The inside knowledge from eyewitness accounts is that it was a terrorist attack. We'll see what happens.


    Yet the police - an independent third party - say otherwise.

    Sounds to me like more of your racist/Islamophobic paranoid nonsense, Mr Hammer.


    Yes, but were they at least tinted?

    You tell me that.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 5th, 2019 at 11:06am

    moses wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:56pm:
    karnal wrote Reply #220 - Today at 10:25am

    Quote:
    Thanks, Moses. How did you arrive at the 54.271 figure?


    I reiterate:

    TERRORIST THREAT IN E.U. REMAINS HIGH      

    MAIN TRENDS

    These attacks killed 68 victims and left 844 injured. Nearly all casualties (62) were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


    68 people were killed in Europe by terrorists if the apologists figures are right this means that:

    84% of attacks killed 6 people, which equates to 0.0714 deaths per attack.

    16% of the attacks killed 62 people which equates to 3.875 deaths per attack.

    O.K so muslims kill 3.875 people per attack, non muslims kill 0.0714 per attack.

    Which means that muslims are 54.271 times more likely to kill innocent people than anybody else.



    muslims kill 54.271 times more people with the least amount of attacks, as their modus operandi is maximum lethal force aimed at the soft target, (innocent men women and children of the general public).

    islamic terrorism is still the highest threat.


    You're right. Good point. Year 9 maths.

    Can you do one on Darkie?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 5th, 2019 at 1:41pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 8:19am:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 10:08pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 8:14pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 7:18pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 4:23pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2019 at 2:40pm:
    Here we have a thread choc full of Brian and Greg using misleading statistics


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, telling lies again, FD?  Really?  How unbecoming of you.  How about you answer the questions I have asked in that thread and which you have continually run away from?   Anybody would think you're a coward, the way you're refusing to answer my questions and creating new threads all over the place.   As the great Bard said, "Cowards die many times before their deaths."   Keep running, FD, it won't save you...   ::) ::)

    What's the question, dickheaddle?


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Resorting to ad hominem insults again?  Tsk, tsk.  I provided a link here did you miss it?  Really?   ::) ::)

    Where's the question, dickheaddle?
    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1539592672;virboard=;quote=61;title=PostReply

    Nobody said - other than you dicks - that the Europol report misrepresented anything.


    Really?  I think it was FD who ran the line that Greg was "misleading" people with invalid statistics first, Soren.  Perhaps you need to reread the thread?


    It's in the thread title Brian. Surely you could have read that far before posting?


    When you answer my questions, FD, I might answer yours.  Run along back to your little kiddies' playground where you normally hide, OK?  I think your friends are calling you home.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 5th, 2019 at 2:21pm
    Too much too ask?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 5th, 2019 at 2:30pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 1:41pm:
    When you answer my questions, FD, I might answer yours.  Run along back to your little kiddies' playground where you normally hide, OK?  I think your friends are calling you home.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)



    Brian,
    you're a very rude an arrogant poster.

    You claim to have a plethora of university degrees
    and to be an expert on just about every topic -
    then assert that other posters should
    " run along back to your little kiddies' playground "
    as though they have nothing of any worth to contribute -
    and that you're so superior to them.

    Don't bother posting if that's all you've got.
    Someone with a university education should be able to write cogent powerful arguments -
    and I've yet to ever see you do that.

    I'm calling you fake -
    someone who got his degrees out of numerous corn flake packets.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 5th, 2019 at 3:58pm
    @ karnal

    Quote:
    Can you do one on Darkie?


    What's with the, obsession with colour?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 5th, 2019 at 4:12pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 2:21pm:
    Too much too ask?




    Answer my questions first, FD.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 5th, 2019 at 4:16pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 1:41pm:
    When you answer my questions, FD, I might answer yours.  Run along back to your little kiddies' playground where you normally hide, OK?  I think your friends are calling you home.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)



    Brian,
    you're a very rude an arrogant poster.


    Funny how you ignore all the other "rude and arrogant" posters, Bobby.  Mechanic, Soren, etc.  Could it be that you only focus on what offends you 'cause you want to virtue signal?  Mmmm?


    Quote:
    You claim to have a plethora of university degrees
    and to be an expert on just about every topic -
    then assert that other posters should
    " run along back to your little kiddies' playground "
    as though they have nothing of any worth to contribute -
    and that you're so superior to them.

    Don't bother posting if that's all you've got.
    Someone with a university education should be able to write cogent powerful arguments -
    and I've yet to ever see you do that.

    I'm calling you fake -
    someone who got his degrees out of numerous corn flake packets.




    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Bobby, why is that I am able to best you in virtually any argument we have ever had?   You wouldn't know your arse from your elbow in most cases.  Now, piss off back under your bridge.   Tsk, tsk, I really don't know why you bother wasting our time, I really don't.  You haven't made a cogent argument in all the time I've been reading your posts.   Your solution to everything appears to be to hang the culprits high.  Really?   ::)


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 5th, 2019 at 5:14pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 4:12pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 2:21pm:
    Too much too ask?




    Answer my questions first, FD.   ::)


    So if I answer these imaginary questions, you will consider reading the thread title? Is there an implied promise in there not to post stupid things?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 5th, 2019 at 5:19pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 5:14pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 4:12pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 2:21pm:
    Too much too ask?




    Answer my questions first, FD.   ::)


    So if I answer these imaginary questions, you will consider reading the thread title? Is there an implied promise in there not to post stupid things?


    Answer my questions first, FD.   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 5th, 2019 at 5:46pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 4:16pm:
    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Bobby, why is that I am able to best you in virtually any argument we have ever had?   You wouldn't know your arse from your elbow in most cases.  Now, piss off back under your bridge.   Tsk, tsk, I really don't know why you bother wasting our time, I really don't.  You haven't made a cogent argument in all the time I've been reading your posts.   Your solution to everything appears to be to hang the culprits high.  Really?   ::)



    You haven't bested me in any argument except in your own pea brain.
    And yes - a bit of hanging would solve most of the problems in the world not
    progressive, limp wristed solutions like you have.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:43pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 4:16pm:
    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Bobby, why is that I am able to best you in virtually any argument we have ever had?   You wouldn't know your arse from your elbow in most cases.  Now, piss off back under your bridge.   Tsk, tsk, I really don't know why you bother wasting our time, I really don't.  You haven't made a cogent argument in all the time I've been reading your posts.   Your solution to everything appears to be to hang the culprits high.  Really?   ::)


    You haven't bested me in any argument except in your own pea brain.
    And yes - a bit of hanging would solve most of the problems in the world not
    progressive, limp wristed solutions like you have.


    You volunteering for the noose, Bobby?

    I have beaten you in nearly all the debates we have engaged in.  Remember your claims about submarines?  Mmmm?    ::)

    You stick with your ego, boy.  Bring it out of your box when you need it.  It'll do you the world of good to look at that frail little thing.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:48pm
    It's hard to imagine Brian winning a debate.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 5th, 2019 at 9:26pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 7:48pm:
    It's hard to imagine Brian winning a debate.



    In his mind he wins all his debates by saying tsk tsk.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 5th, 2019 at 10:05pm
    It's hard to imagine Freediver/Bobby losing a debate.  They bore you to death with pointless mud throwing.   Silly children, really.    ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 6th, 2019 at 11:15am

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 10:05pm:
    It's hard to imagine Freediver/Bobby losing a debate.  They bore you to death with pointless mud throwing.   Silly children, really.    ::) ::)



    Brian,
    You claim to have a plethora of university degrees
    and to be an expert on just about every topic -
    then assert that other posters should
    " run along back to your little kiddies' playground "
    as though they have nothing of any worth to contribute -
    and that you're so superior to them.

    Don't bother posting if that's all you've got.
    Someone with a university education should be able to write cogent powerful arguments -
    and I've yet to ever see you do that.

    I'm calling you fake -
    someone who got his degrees out of numerous corn flake packets.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 6th, 2019 at 12:47pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 11:15am:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2019 at 10:05pm:
    It's hard to imagine Freediver/Bobby losing a debate.  They bore you to death with pointless mud throwing.   Silly children, really.    ::) ::)



    Brian,
    You claim to have a plethora of university degrees
    and to be an expert on just about every topic -
    then assert that other posters should
    " run along back to your little kiddies' playground "
    as though they have nothing of any worth to contribute -
    and that you're so superior to them.

    Don't bother posting if that's all you've got.
    Someone with a university education should be able to write cogent powerful arguments -
    and I've yet to ever see you do that.

    I'm calling you fake -
    someone who got his degrees out of numerous corn flake packets.




    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Bobby, why is that I am able to best you in virtually any argument we have ever had?   You wouldn't know your arse from your elbow in most cases.  Now, piss off back under your bridge.   Tsk, tsk, I really don't know why you bother wasting our time, I really don't.  You haven't made a cogent argument in all the time I've been reading your posts.   Your solution to everything appears to be to hang the culprits high.  Really?   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 6th, 2019 at 12:54pm
    Dear Brian,
    are you a limp wristed, communist, homosexual?

    You sound like one.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 6th, 2019 at 1:07pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 12:54pm:
    Dear Brian,
    are you a limp wristed, communist, homosexual?

    You sound like one.




    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Bobby, stop torturing those electrons, they don't deserve such mistreatment.   If that is the best you have to come back against me with, well, why do you bother?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby on Jan 6th, 2019 at 1:18pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 1:07pm:

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 12:54pm:
    Dear Brian,
    are you a limp wristed, communist, homosexual?

    You sound like one.




    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Bobby, stop torturing those electrons, they don't deserve such mistreatment.   If that is the best you have to come back against me with, well, why do you bother?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



    I'll win this debate by saying -

    run along to the kiddies playground  tsk tsk.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 6th, 2019 at 2:46pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 1:07pm:

    Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2019 at 12:54pm:
    Dear Brian,
    are you a limp wristed, communist, homosexual?

    You sound like one.




    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Bobby, stop torturing those electrons, they don't deserve such mistreatment.   If that is the best you have to come back against me with, well, why do you bother?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



    I'll win this debate by saying -

    run along to the kiddies playground  tsk tsk.




    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Bobby, stop torturing those electrons, they don't deserve such mistreatment.   If that is the best you have to come back against me with, well, why do you bother?  Tut, tut.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 6th, 2019 at 5:14pm
    old forked tongue love saying tsk

    E I E I O

    cos thems the words he loves the best

    E I E I O            

    with a tsk tsk here

    and a tsk tsk there

    here a tsk there a tsk

    everywhere a tsk tsk

    old forked tongue loves saying tsk

    E I E I O

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 6th, 2019 at 8:50pm


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tell me, Moses, can you sing Tenor?  Ten or twelve miles away, hopefully.   Run along, little man, do your busking back in your little kiddies' playground.  You might cadge a few coins from your fellow Islamophobes.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2019 at 10:43am
    An interesting theory on jihadist creation. “Isolation” is apparently the new “mental illness”:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/06/social-exclusion-radicalisation-brain-scans?CMP=twt_gu


    It's now our fault that Muslims do not fit in with Western societies (or with their own, since murderous jihad takes place in muslim socidties as well)


    Islamic jihad is caused by everything under the sun EXCEPT Islam.






    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:41pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    Nice tricking, FD. Will your next tactic be spineless evasion?

    Don't answer that.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm
    [font=Verdana][/font]
    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2019 at 3:05pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
    [font=Verdana][/font]
    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.


    Yes, but I think FD's Marxist button has been triggered. Since his switch from liberal democracy to white supremacism, he's had to reconfigure his social and political triggers.

    Mistie, for example, would call your reference to alienation "progressivism". Aquascoot would call it beta leftardism. FD would brand you a communist.

    And we all know what the Nazis did with them, no?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:10pm
    Do you have to be ignorant and blindingly obstinate to have a deep personal relationship with allah, to the point that you definitely can't see the evils of islam and the role they play in the degeneracy of the fundamentalist?



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:17pm
    Do you have to be ignorant and blindingly obstinate to have a deep personal relationship with Christ, to the point that you definitely can't see the evils of Christianity and the role they play in the degeneracy of the fundamentalist?   ::)


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:49pm
    Do you have to be ignorant and blindingly obstinate to cultivate deep personal flaws like Bwian's to the point that he definitely can't see the evils of his idiocy and the role it plays in the degeneracy of the fundamentalist spineless apologist?   

    Er.... yes.

      ;)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2019 at 7:29pm
    Do you have to be ignorant and blindingly obstinate to treat the old boy, just as you would treat any other patient, to the point where you definitely can't ignore the evils of anal blockage and the role they play in the degeneracy of the frigid old bore?

    Remember, there are no right or wrong answers here.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 11th, 2019 at 7:32pm

    Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    Do you have to be ignorant and blindingly obstinate to treat the old boy, just as you would treat any other patient, to the point where you definitely can't ignore the evils of anal blockage and the role they play in the degeneracy of the frigid old bore?

    There are no right or wrong answers here.

    Too late, Paki.


    It's not a game of 'who the fc*k are you'.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2019 at 7:36pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 7:29pm:
    Do you have to be ignorant and blindingly obstinate to treat the old boy, just as you would treat any other patient, to the point where you definitely can't ignore the evils of anal blockage and the role they play in the degeneracy of the frigid old bore?

    There are no right or wrong answers here.

    Too late, Paki.


    It's never too late, dear boy. Where there's life, there's hope.

    Or in your case, death. One must have hope, no?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:38pm

    Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 3:05pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
    [font=Verdana][/font]
    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.


    Yes, but I think FD's Marxist button has been triggered. Since his switch from liberal democracy to white supremacism, he's had to reconfigure his social and political triggers.

    Mistie, for example, would call your reference to alienation "progressivism". Aquascoot would call it beta leftardism. FD would brand you a communist.

    And we all know what the Nazis did with them, no?


    Ha mistie! - I'd forgotton all about him. What an unpleasant reminder. Someone who was quite possibly even more annoying than FD.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:42pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

    Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 3:05pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
    [font=Verdana][/font]
    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.


    Yes, but I think FD's Marxist button has been triggered. Since his switch from liberal democracy to white supremacism, he's had to reconfigure his social and political triggers.

    Mistie, for example, would call your reference to alienation "progressivism". Aquascoot would call it beta leftardism. FD would brand you a communist.

    And we all know what the Nazis did with them, no?


    Ha mistie! - I'd forgotton all about him. What an unpleasant reminder. Someone who was quite possibly even more annoying than FD.


    Yes, good old Mistie.

    What were his other names?

    Can't for the life of me remember them.

    He had three different identities.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
    Do you have to be ignorant and blindingly obstinate to cultivate deep personal flaws like Bwian's to the point that he definitely can't see the evils of his idiocy and the role it plays in the degeneracy of the fundamentalist spineless apologist?   

    Er.... yes.

      ;)




    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Soren loses again and reaches into his pocket to find some tired old ad hominem insults.   Poor, poor, Soren.    ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:58pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

    Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 3:05pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
    [font=Verdana][/font]
    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.


    Yes, but I think FD's Marxist button has been triggered. Since his switch from liberal democracy to white supremacism, he's had to reconfigure his social and political triggers.

    Mistie, for example, would call your reference to alienation "progressivism". Aquascoot would call it beta leftardism. FD would brand you a communist.

    And we all know what the Nazis did with them, no?


    Ha mistie! - I'd forgotton all about him. What an unpleasant reminder. Someone who was quite possibly even more annoying than FD.


    Yes, good old Mistie.

    What were his other names?

    Can't for the life of me remember them.

    He had three different identities.




    hehe I always chuckled every time I saw that picture.

    Much like aqua can never seem to make a post without mentioning the words "alpha male", mistie was singularly incapable of constructing any argument without throwing in those dastardly "progressives" somewhere - the root of all evil, of course.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:12pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

    Karnal wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 3:05pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
    [font=Verdana][/font]
    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.


    Yes, but I think FD's Marxist button has been triggered. Since his switch from liberal democracy to white supremacism, he's had to reconfigure his social and political triggers.

    Mistie, for example, would call your reference to alienation "progressivism". Aquascoot would call it beta leftardism. FD would brand you a communist.

    And we all know what the Nazis did with them, no?


    Ha mistie! - I'd forgotton all about him. What an unpleasant reminder. Someone who was quite possibly even more annoying than FD.


    Yes, good old Mistie.

    What were his other names?

    Can't for the life of me remember them.

    He had three different identities.




    hehe I always chuckled every time I saw that picture.

    Much like aqua can never seem to make a post without mentioning the words "alpha male", mistie was singularly incapable of constructing any argument without throwing in those dastardly "progressives" somewhere - the root of all evil, of course.


    Don't you laugh. FD's about to get you for being an enemy of the people, a gen-u-wine Marxist traitor, how very dare you.

    If you want this to stop, you know just what you have to do.

    Blame Islam.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:38pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.


    Being teased at school plays a possible role as well. And being smacked by your mother, mistreated by police, robbed, etc. But it takes Islam to turn that anger into divinely-sanctioned rape and pillage.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:04am

    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.


    Being teased at school plays a possible role as well. And being smacked by your mother, mistreated by police, robbed, etc. But it takes Islam to turn that anger into divinely-sanctioned rape and pillage.


    So I take it you are willing to concede that Islam may not be a root cause of terrorism - merely an excuse for terrorism?

    In this case, why all the sneering and jeering at the idea that things besides Islam should be investigated as root causes?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2019 at 1:53pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:04am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
    Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.


    The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.


    Being teased at school plays a possible role as well. And being smacked by your mother, mistreated by police, robbed, etc. But it takes Islam to turn that anger into divinely-sanctioned rape and pillage.


    So I take it you are willing to concede that Islam may not be a root cause of terrorism - merely an excuse for terrorism?

    In this case, why all the sneering and jeering at the idea that things besides Islam should be investigated as root causes?


    No Gandalf. It is a cause. You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops. You take away all the other things that play a 'role' and you still get rich, white, spoilt kids who have converted to Islam travelling halfway round the world to rape and pillage for the Caliphate, because Islam ordains fighting for them.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 14th, 2019 at 3:16pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 1:53pm:
    You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops.


    really? Says who?

    Big call there.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 14th, 2019 at 3:55pm
    allahu akbar?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2019 at 4:02pm

    "Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners."

    White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2019 at 4:07pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
    "Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners."

    White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners


    "... two independent studies issued last month show that the number of Muslim Americans associated with violent extremism in 2017 continued to fall, and the number of Americans killed by white supremacists in the U.S. last year was far higher than those killed by Muslim extremists.

    "More specifically, over the last decade 71 percent of all terrorism-related fatalities have been linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 26 percent of the killings were committed by Islamic extremists."


    More Americans killed by white supremecists than Muslim extremists, studies show

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 14th, 2019 at 5:33pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
    "Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners."

    White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners


    Yes, Greggery, but FD's saying that if you took away Islam, they'd stop too.

    It takes two to tango, you know. If the Muselman won't stop, why should Whitey?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2019 at 7:22pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 1:53pm:
    You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops.


    really? Says who?

    Big call there.


    How would ISIS be fairing without Islam?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 14th, 2019 at 7:53pm
    they wouldn't exist FD.

    But whats your point? Are you seriously saying there would be net less killings in the world without Islam? Big call if are. no, huge call.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:01pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 1:53pm:
    You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops.


    really? Says who?

    Big call there.


    How would ISIS be fairing without Islam?


    The individual members would still be sociopathic killers.

    They'd just find some other reason to justify their violence.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
    they wouldn't exist FD.

    But whats your point? Are you seriously saying there would be net less killings in the world without Islam? Big call if are. no, huge call.


    That's like asking someone if they would kill Hitler if they had a chance to go back in time. The alternative is to defend Hitler on the risk that someone even worse may have come along if not for the warning Hitler was to the world. Sure it is  theoretically possible, but as you say, ISIS would not exist without Islam, and neither would a hundred other organisations bent on evil. The thing that stands out most about ISIS is the futility and idiocy of it. They are never going to win, and they are fighting against the establishment of democracy in Iraq. Only Islam would let someone from the other side of the world with no particular emotional investment convince themselves that ISIS is the right path.

    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:56pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 1:53pm:
    You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops.


    really? Says who?

    Big call there.


    How would ISIS be fairing without Islam?


    Ask him how the white supremacists would be faring, FD.

    If that's not too racist.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:35pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    That's true, FD, but as you said, white supremacists wouldn't exist either, so we need to take the good with the bad, no?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:46pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:39am

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

    You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:39am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

    You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.

    Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:30pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:39am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

    You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.

    Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?


    Maybe not the same sort, but definitely some sort.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:41pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:39am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

    You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.

    Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?


    Maybe not the same sort, but definitely some sort.


    Starting a new Caliphate?

    Anything remotely similar to what they are doing in the middle east?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:47pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:41pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:39am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

    You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.

    Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?


    Maybe not the same sort, but definitely some sort.


    Starting a new Caliphate?

    Anything remotely similar to what they are doing in the middle east?


    There would be violence; murder.

    Or, are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

    Surely not.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:53pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:47pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:41pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:39am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

    You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.

    Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?


    Maybe not the same sort, but definitely some sort.


    Starting a new Caliphate?

    Anything remotely similar to what they are doing in the middle east?


    There would be violence; murder.

    Or, are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

    Surely not.


    Violence and murder on the same scale? Or completely different ballpark?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 15th, 2019 at 1:01pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm:
    Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.


    You have given no convincing case for why this is necessarily true, and not "Islam gives people an excuse who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there etc". The only reasonably certain thing you can see in this regards is that without Islam, these people wouldn't travel to the middle east to fight for Islam. But thats not saying anything useful or interesting at all.


    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm:
    Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?


    My "alternative position" is merely to point out that your insistence that "Islam" is a cause of violence, as opposed to a mere excuse for it, is based on nothing whatsoever - save your own prejudice. Furthermore, you effectively concede this point when you candidly agree that there is no way of knowing whether or not something as bad or worse than Islam, or Hitler would have stepped up and caused at least as much suffering if those two had not existed. So you seem confused about what you are actually trying to say.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 15th, 2019 at 1:03pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
    Or, are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

    Surely not.


    This is the crux of it. FD is this your position? So far you've really only managed to argue that if not for Islam, there would be no "Islamic style" violence.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 15th, 2019 at 1:45pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:39am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

    You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.

    Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?


    True, FD, but does it cause people to travel to Europe to become white supremacists and ethno-nationalists?

    A simple yes or no will suffice.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 15th, 2019 at 1:46pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 1:03pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
    Or, are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

    Surely not.


    This is the crux of it. FD is this your position? So far you've really only managed to argue that if not for Islam, there would be no "Islamic style" violence.


    Moslem == a follower of Islam.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:26pm
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:41pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:47pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:41pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:39am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 14th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
    It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.


    What call is it exactly though?

    You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.


    Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

    You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.


    Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.

    Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?


    Maybe not the same sort, but definitely some sort.


    Starting a new Caliphate?

    Anything remotely similar to what they are doing in the middle east?


    There would be violence; murder.

    Or, are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

    Surely not.


    :-/

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?
    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:23pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?


    Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?


    Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

    Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate.  All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black   flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

    It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.









    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 15th, 2019 at 8:56pm

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?



    You have absolutely no idea about Genetics, do you, Moses?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.   Tsk, tsk, what a shame that reality does not support that, hey?  Run along, back to your little Church where they preach hatred against anybody not a Christian.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?


    Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

    Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate.  All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black   flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

    It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.


    Aren't we lucky that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject Daesh and it's "Black Flag", Soren?   Once more, reality trips you up as you spout your Islamophobic hatred.  ::)

    What a shame though, it destroys your hatred and Islamophobia towards all Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, run along, I can hear your friends in the little kiddies' playground calling you back to them.   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm

    Quote:
    Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.


    How do you interpret this Greg?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 15th, 2019 at 10:39pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    Quote:
    Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.


    How do you interpret this Greg?



    You?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 16th, 2019 at 5:56am

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    Quote:
    Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.


    How do you interpret this Greg?



    Whites are superior beings?

    Definitely not racist though.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 16th, 2019 at 11:38am

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 5:56am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    Quote:
    Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.


    How do you interpret this Greg?



    Whites are superior beings?

    Definitely not racist though.


    I think FD's saying Whites and Chows are superior beings, G. We'll ask FD.

    FD, are you saying Decent White People, along with Chows and their Tree Monkey brothers, are superior to the Muselman and the Negroid?

    That's a question.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 16th, 2019 at 12:14pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

    Quote:
    Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.


    How do you interpret this Greg?



    I'd like to do a musical interpretation.

    Well I've got a gal, she's as cute as she can be
    She's a distant cousin but she's not too distant with me
    We'll kiss all night
    I'll squeeze her tight
    But we're kissin' cousins 'n that's what makes it all right
    All right, all right, all right

    Oh I've got a girl and she taught me how to live
    She can give a lot and she's got a lot to give
    We'll kiss all night
    I'll squeeze her tight
    But we're kissin' cousins 'n that's what makes it all right
    All right, all right, all right

    Yes we're all cousins, that's what I believe
    Because we're children of Adam and Eve
    I got a girl and she wants a lot of love
    That's the kind of trouble I need plenty of
    We'll kiss all night
    I'll squeeze her tight
    But we're kissin' cousins 'n that'll make it all right
    All right, all right, all right

    We'll be kissin' cousins that'll make it all right
    All right, all right, all right

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by gandalf on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:48pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    The map is misleadingly skewed because rates of inbreeding in central Africa (mostly Christian/animist) are not counted - yet anecdotally, it is commonly known that those areas have very high levels. Not including them gives the illusion that high inbreeding rates in Africa are neatly restricted to the northern muslim areas.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 16th, 2019 at 2:02pm
    FROM EUROPOL

    TERRORIST THREAT IN E.U. REMAINS HIGH      

    MAIN TRENDS

    These attacks killed 68 victims and left 844 injured. Nearly all casualties (62) were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


    68 people were killed in Europe by terrorists if the apologists figures are right this means that:

    84% of attacks killed 6 people, which equates to 0.0714 deaths per attack.

    16% of the attacks killed 62 people which equates to 3.875 deaths per attack.

    O.K so muslims kill 3.875 people per attack, non muslims kill 0.0714 per attack.

    Which means that muslims are 54.271 times more likely to kill innocent people than anybody else.

    muslims kill 54.271 times more people with the least amount of attacks, as their terrorism modus operandi is maximum lethal force aimed at the soft target, (innocent men women and children of the general public).


    muslims slaughtered 62 of the 68 people killed by terrorism in Europe.

    This means non muslims killed 8.824% of those people.

    While muslims killed 91.176% of the people slaughtered by terrorism in Europe.

    The resulting figures stand at:

    muslims kill 54.271 times more people than non muslims in terror attacks.

    muslims are responsible for 91.176% of all deaths in terror attacks.


    I'm still convinced that muslims pose the greatest threat around the globe than anyone else.

    So far the apologists haven't told us why muslims are the greatest religious terror threat in the world, if they're not influenced by the evil in the qur'an

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 16th, 2019 at 7:32pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    How high Brian?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 16th, 2019 at 8:48pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?


    Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

    Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate.  All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black   flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

    It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.


    Aren't we lucky that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject Daesh and it's "Black Flag", Soren?   Once more, reality trips you up as you spout your Islamophobic hatred.  ::)

    What a shame though, it destroys your hatred and Islamophobia towards all Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, run along, I can hear your friends in the little kiddies' playground calling you back to them.   ::)

    I don't  want to be lucky, looney. I dont want to take chances with Islam. It's  bloody, it's  oppressive, it's unreformable, it's  bad dam news.




    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 16th, 2019 at 8:51pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?


    Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

    Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate.  All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black   flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

    It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.


    Aren't we lucky that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject Daesh and it's "Black Flag", Soren?   Once more, reality trips you up as you spout your Islamophobic hatred.  ::)

    What a shame though, it destroys your hatred and Islamophobia towards all Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, run along, I can hear your friends in the little kiddies' playground calling you back to them.   ::)

    I don't  want to be lucky, looney. I dont want to take chances with Islam. It's  bloody, it's  oppressive, it's unreformable, it's  bad dam news.


    How many people killed on Australian roads last year?

    How many people killed in Australia by Muslims last year?

    Do you take your chances on the road?

    I'm curious.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 17th, 2019 at 11:02am

    freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    How high Brian?


    Sufficient to register on the map, FD.   Don't they deserve to be condemned as well as the Muslims?  Mmmm?   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 17th, 2019 at 11:04am

    Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?


    Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

    Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate.  All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black   flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

    It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.


    Aren't we lucky that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject Daesh and it's "Black Flag", Soren?   Once more, reality trips you up as you spout your Islamophobic hatred.  ::)

    What a shame though, it destroys your hatred and Islamophobia towards all Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, run along, I can hear your friends in the little kiddies' playground calling you back to them.   ::)

    I don't  want to be lucky, looney. I dont want to take chances with Islam. It's  bloody, it's  oppressive, it's unreformable, it's  bad dam news.


    So, unless you travel to a Muslim country, Soren, how likely is that you will encounter Islamic law?  100%? 75%, 50%, 25%, 10%, 1% or less than 1%?    ::) ::)



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2019 at 12:21pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 11:02am:

    freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    How high Brian?


    Sufficient to register on the map, FD.   Don't they deserve to be condemned as well as the Muslims?  Mmmm?   ::)


    0% is sufficient to register on the map Brian. Are you having difficulty understanding it?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 17th, 2019 at 8:22pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 8:51pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?


    Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

    Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate.  All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black   flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

    It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.


    Aren't we lucky that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject Daesh and it's "Black Flag", Soren?   Once more, reality trips you up as you spout your Islamophobic hatred.  ::)

    What a shame though, it destroys your hatred and Islamophobia towards all Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, run along, I can hear your friends in the little kiddies' playground calling you back to them.   ::)

    I don't  want to be lucky, looney. I dont want to take chances with Islam. It's  bloody, it's  oppressive, it's unreformable, it's  bad dam news.


    How many people killed on Australian roads last year?

    How many people killed in Australia by Muslims last year?

    Do you take your chances on the road?

    I'm curious.

    Point?  Relevance?

    One Bwian is enough, Turd. We already have Bwian asking pointless and irrelevant questions, as if those were somehow a triumphant argument. Don't need arse-seepers like you to emulate him.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 17th, 2019 at 9:00pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 8:22pm:
    One Bwian is enough, Turd. We already have Bwian asking pointless and irrelevant questions, as if those were somehow a triumphant argument. Don't need arse-seepers like you to emulate him.


    I wasn't aware that asking questions made you so uncomfortable, Soren.  Tough.  I will not be stopping.  If you're not prepared to answer my questions (not Greg's) it simply shows that your mind is already made up and you have no real interest in debate.  You want us to all goosestep along the road to the beat of your drum.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 17th, 2019 at 9:24pm
    Have you figured out how to read the map yet Brian?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 17th, 2019 at 9:27pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 8:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 8:51pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
    Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

    Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

    Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

    I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

    I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

    I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

    We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.



    FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?



    What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?


    Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

    Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate.  All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black   flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

    It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.


    Aren't we lucky that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject Daesh and it's "Black Flag", Soren?   Once more, reality trips you up as you spout your Islamophobic hatred.  ::)

    What a shame though, it destroys your hatred and Islamophobia towards all Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, run along, I can hear your friends in the little kiddies' playground calling you back to them.   ::)

    I don't  want to be lucky, looney. I dont want to take chances with Islam. It's  bloody, it's  oppressive, it's unreformable, it's  bad dam news.


    How many people killed on Australian roads last year?

    How many people killed in Australia by Muslims last year?

    Do you take your chances on the road?

    I'm curious.

    Point?  Relevance?

    One Bwian is enough, Turd. We already have Bwian asking pointless and irrelevant questions, as if those were somehow a triumphant argument. Don't need arse-seepers like you to emulate him.


    You spend your entire life worrying about Muslim terrorists, when you have much, much, much, much, much,  more chance of being killed on the road.

    Does it bother you that you've wasted your life worrying about something that will never happen?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:06am

    freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 9:24pm:
    Have you figured out how to read the map yet Brian?


    Have you figured out how to answer questions yet, Freediver?   ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:39pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well... 


    Yes, but the ones up in Arabia and India are the Arab/Negroid subspecies. As far as FD can see, their Negroid genes make them breed with their their family members and convert to Islam.

    As FD says, a plausible theory.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 18th, 2019 at 3:19pm

    Quote:
    You spend your entire life worrying about Muslim terrorists, when you have much, much, much, much, much,  more chance of being killed on the road.


    The flaw in that crap is that people go on the road knowing that it is a dangerous place and all care must be taken (buckle up, drive safely, etc.)

    We also go to the center of town expecting that we can walk about safely without some islamic nutjob jumping in a car and deliberately driving over innocent men women and children.


    Quote:
    Does it bother you that you've wasted your life worrying about something that will never happen?


    Tell that to the parents of the little children who went to a kids concert and were slaughtered by a muslim, who decided to target them with maximum lethal force, because they were a soft target.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 18th, 2019 at 4:03pm

    moses wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 3:19pm:

    Quote:
    You spend your entire life worrying about Muslim terrorists, when you have much, much, much, much, much,  more chance of being killed on the road.


    The flaw in that crap is that people go on the road knowing that it is a dangerous place and all care must be taken (buckle up, drive safely, etc.)

    We also go to the center of town expecting that we can walk about safely without some islamic nutjob jumping in a car and deliberately driving over innocent men women and children.


    We do. We also go to the centre of town expecting that we can walk about safely without some neo-Nazi deliberately driving over innocent men and women, Moses.

    You?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 18th, 2019 at 4:13pm
    nazi or muslim same supremacist mindset.

    Why do apologists and *moderates* try and differentiate between them?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 18th, 2019 at 4:23pm

    moses wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 4:13pm:
    nazi or muslim same supremacist mindset.

    Why do apologists and *moderates* try and differentiate between them?


    I'm not sure, Moses. Why do you only complain about the Moslem Nazis?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 18th, 2019 at 4:36pm
    It seems that the muslim nazis are the global threat, they are the top 26 listed global terrorist organizations, they are the worlds refugees, they are putting their children needlessly in mortal danger because of their particular muslim nazi doctrine, they starve their children to death in the tens of thousands because of their muslim nazi doctrine.

    Whereas the plain old nazi well he's not a world wide threat, he isn't listed as a global terrorist organization, he isn't the refugee problem of the world, he doesn't put his kids in mortal danger, he doesn't starve his kids to death etc. etc. etc.

    So it's common sense which one is the major threat to the human race, and that's surprise surprise, the muslim nazi.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 18th, 2019 at 5:18pm
    :-*u
    moses wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 4:36pm:
    It seems that the muslim nazis are the global threat, they are the top 26 listed global terrorist organizations, they are the worlds refugees, they are putting their children needlessly in mortal danger because of their particular muslim nazi doctrine, they starve their children to death in the tens of thousands because of their muslim nazi doctrine.

    Whereas the plain old nazi well he's not a world wide threat, he isn't listed as a global terrorist organization, he isn't the refugee problem of the world, he doesn't put his kids in mortal danger, he doesn't starve his kids to death etc. etc. etc.

    So it's common sense which one is the major threat to the human race, and that's surprise surprise, the muslim nazi.


    Yes, but in America, Nazis (or white nationalists) are the biggest threat reported by the FBI. More actual killings by them than your Muselman. Same in Russia. I'd say it's the same in Eastern Europe too.

    So again, I'm curious. Why do you deny the very real threat posed by this cult of death? Why do you debase yourself by apologising for them? Why do you tie yourself in knots trying to excuse their despicable, vile behaviour?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 18th, 2019 at 7:32pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    So you still don't understand the map you have been telling everyone about for a few pages?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:26pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 9:00pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 8:22pm:
    One Bwian is enough, Turd. We already have Bwian asking pointless and irrelevant questions, as if those were somehow a triumphant argument. Don't need arse-seepers like you to emulate him.


    I wasn't aware that asking questions made you so uncomfortable, Soren.  Tough.  I will not be stopping.  If you're not prepared to answer my questions (not Greg's) it simply shows that your mind is already made up and you have no real interest in debate.  You want us to all goosestep along the road to the beat of your drum.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


    Pointless and irrelevant questions, Bwian. You are asking pointless and irrelevant questions. Ask intelligent and relevant questions, Bwian.
    But you'd rather die than do that.  Your entire reason for being here is to be a snivelling, sanctimonious, idiotic bore. Like your son, Turd Jn.


    Focus, cockwomble. 

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:45pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:26pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 9:00pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 17th, 2019 at 8:22pm:
    One Bwian is enough, Turd. We already have Bwian asking pointless and irrelevant questions, as if those were somehow a triumphant argument. Don't need arse-seepers like you to emulate him.


    I wasn't aware that asking questions made you so uncomfortable, Soren.  Tough.  I will not be stopping.  If you're not prepared to answer my questions (not Greg's) it simply shows that your mind is already made up and you have no real interest in debate.  You want us to all goosestep along the road to the beat of your drum.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)


    Pointless and irrelevant questions, Bwian. You are asking pointless and irrelevant questions. Ask intelligent and relevant questions, Bwian.


    All my questions are relevant, Soren.  You just refer to them as "pointless and irrelevent" because you find them uncomfortable to answer.   ::)


    Quote:
    But you'd rather die than do that.  Your entire reason for being here is to be a snivelling, sanctimonious, idiotic bore. Like your son, Turd Jn.


    Focus, cockwomble. 


    Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Appears your ad hominem debate Tourettes has come back back, Soren.   ::)


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:46pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    So you still don't understand the map you have been telling everyone about for a few pages?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:51pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    So you still don't understand the map you have been telling everyone about for a few pages?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    Only if you know the answer Brian.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:55pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    So you still don't understand the map you have been telling everyone about for a few pages?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    Are you suggesting FD should answer your questions first?

    But what if he's to scared to answer? You could be compounding FD's trauma from the last time, Brian. You could be psychologically injuring FD even further. He might be reduced to a drivelling imbecile or even worse because if your question, you never can tell.

    Look, why don't you answer first this one last time. FD can then ask you a series of supplementaries and it'll be all good, okay?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:57pm

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    So you still don't understand the map you have been telling everyone about for a few pages?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    Only if you know the answer Brian.


    You see? He doesn't sound well. You'd better answer FD, Brian, just this once.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 19th, 2019 at 2:57pm
    @ Reply #372 - Yesterday at 9:55pm


    Quote:
    Yes, but in America, Nazis (or white nationalists) are the biggest threat reported by the FBI. More actual killings by them than your Muselman. Same in Russia. I'd say it's the same in Eastern Europe too.

    So again, I'm curious. Why do you deny the very real threat posed by this cult of death? Why do you debase yourself by apologising for them? Why do you tie yourself in knots trying to excuse their despicable, vile behaviour?


    I reiterate:

    It seems that the muslim nazis are the global threat, they are the top 26 listed global terrorist organizations, they are the worlds refugees, they are putting their children needlessly in mortal danger because of their particular muslim nazi doctrine, they starve their children to death in the tens of thousands because of their muslim nazi doctrine.

    Whereas the plain old nazi well he's not a world wide threat, he isn't listed as a global terrorist organization, he isn't the refugee problem of the world, he doesn't put his kids in mortal danger, he doesn't starve his kids to death etc. etc. etc.

    So it's common sense which one is the major threat to the human race, and that's surprise surprise, the muslim nazi.

    You genuinely dinnae ken the difference?

    I think you do, it's just that you'll say anything to exonerate islam, for the part it plays in the horrific bloodshed death and destruction being inflicted on the world at the moment.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 19th, 2019 at 8:33pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    So you still don't understand the map you have been telling everyone about for a few pages?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)

    All your questions have been answered, repeatedly, Bwian, you just don't  like the answer.



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 19th, 2019 at 8:35pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 19th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    So you still don't understand the map you have been telling everyone about for a few pages?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)

    All your questions have been answered, repeatedly, Bwian, you just don't  like the answer.




    What's the percentage, of all attacks, of Jihadist terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017?

    I'm curious.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 20th, 2019 at 2:35pm
    percentages' percentages' percentages'

    FROM EUROPOL

    TERRORIST THREAT IN E.U. REMAINS HIGH      

    MAIN TRENDS

    These attacks killed 68 victims and left 844 injured. Nearly all casualties (62) were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


    68 people were killed in Europe by terrorists if the apologists figures are right this means that:

    84% of attacks killed 6 people, which equates to 0.0714 deaths per attack.

    16% of the attacks killed 62 people which equates to 3.875 deaths per attack.

    O.K so muslims kill 3.875 people per attack, non muslims kill 0.0714 per attack.

    Which means that muslims are 54.271 times more likely to kill innocent people than anybody else.

    So the facts are that non muslims carry out the  most attacks delivering the least amount of fatalities.

    muslims kill 54.271 times more people with the least amount of attacks, as their terrorism modus operandi is maximum lethal force aimed at the soft target, (innocent men women and children of the general public).

    muslims slaughtered 62 of the 68 people killed by terrorism in Europe.

    This means non muslims killed 8.824% of those people.

    muslims killed 91.176% of the people killed by terrorism in Europe.

    muslims also kill 54.271 times more people than non muslims in terror attacks.

    muslims are responsible for 91.176% of all deaths in terror attacks.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:20pm
    Excuse me, Moses, a lot of people blame Islam these days. What are your thoughts on this?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:42pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 19th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 19th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 9:46pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

    freediver wrote on Jan 18th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
    What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia.  What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins.  Of course, they're all Muslims as well...   ::)


    What are the "proportions" Brian?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)


    So you still don't understand the map you have been telling everyone about for a few pages?


    When you answer my questions, I might answer yours, Freediver.  Run along, the questions are still waiting for your answers...   ::)

    All your questions have been answered, repeatedly, Bwian, you just don't  like the answer.




    What's the percentage, of all attacks, of Jihadist terrorist attacks carried out in Europe in 2017?

    I'm curious.

    They killed far too many people for a Religion of Peace, turd. There's the heart of the problem with Islam - it's misrepresented and you are a very active, eager activist of that misrepresentation.

    So f.orf, Turd.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:12pm
    karnal wrote Reply #378 - Today at 7:20pm


    Quote:
    Excuse me, Moses, a lot of people blame Islam these days. What are your thoughts on this?


    The qur'an causes it.

    islam has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by muslims intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of muslim refugees around the globe who expect the kufir to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in the qur'an and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know islam will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and islam dies.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:31pm

    Quote:
    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.


    Have you alerted the relevant authorities about these terrorist events, as there is nothing which informs people about these terrorists little kids etc. you have quoted?

    Or are you just lying again as is your usual fashion on debate sites.

    Or is it that you're so jealous of a site which is floating along quiet nicely (the very opposite of a site run by you), that you've decided to be the leftard muslim terrorist supporting troll?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:51am
    Train of horror: Germans build monument to migrant murder, rape and crime

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmc8yYe-JzA

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 24th, 2019 at 11:28am

    moses wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:12pm:
    karnal wrote Reply #378 - Today at 7:20pm


    Quote:
    Excuse me, Moses, a lot of people blame Islam these days. What are your thoughts on this?


    The qur'an causes it.

    islam has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by muslims intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of muslim refugees around the globe who expect the kufir to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in the qur'an and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know islam will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and islam dies.


    I see. But what about all those Moslems who squat down to pee and play with their dicks afterwards?

    Could their inbred retardation be a factor too?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by moses on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:55pm
    islam has yielded its' fruits.

    muslim homelands are a pile of rubble.

    Millions of them have dispersed around the globe demanding the hated kufir feed and shelter them.

    muslims slaughter hundreds of thousands of their children with hunger, death while fleeing muslim violence, right now in the 21st century.

    It's one sick belief system, sitting down to pee and playing  with their dicks afterwards, would be the joke of the millennium if islamic stupidity wasn't such a deadly serious matter.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 24th, 2019 at 4:57pm

    moses wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:55pm:
    islam has yielded its' fruits.

    muslim homelands are a pile of rubble.

    Millions of them have dispersed around the globe demanding the hated kufir feed and shelter them.

    muslims slaughter hundreds of thousands of their children with hunger, death while fleeing muslim violence, right now in the 21st century.

    It's one sick belief system, sitting down to pee and playing  with their dicks afterwards, would be the joke of the millennium if islamic stupidity wasn't such a deadly serious matter.


    Well, some blame our politicians, Moses. They say we never should have let these people in.

    What do you think?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:13pm

    Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 4:57pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:55pm:
    islam has yielded its' fruits.

    muslim homelands are a pile of rubble.

    Millions of them have dispersed around the globe demanding the hated kufir feed and shelter them.

    muslims slaughter hundreds of thousands of their children with hunger, death while fleeing muslim violence, right now in the 21st century.

    It's one sick belief system, sitting down to pee and playing  with their dicks afterwards, would be the joke of the millennium if islamic stupidity wasn't such a deadly serious matter.


    Well, some blame our politicians, Moses. They say we never should have let these people in.

    What do you think?

    Well, no good has come of Muslim immigration anywhere in the West. So, yes, it was and continues to be a mistake to let Muslims migrate to the West at the rate they have been allowed in.


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:42pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:13pm:

    Karnal wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 4:57pm:

    moses wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:55pm:
    islam has yielded its' fruits.

    muslim homelands are a pile of rubble.

    Millions of them have dispersed around the globe demanding the hated kufir feed and shelter them.

    muslims slaughter hundreds of thousands of their children with hunger, death while fleeing muslim violence, right now in the 21st century.

    It's one sick belief system, sitting down to pee and playing  with their dicks afterwards, would be the joke of the millennium if islamic stupidity wasn't such a deadly serious matter.


    Well, some blame our politicians, Moses. They say we never should have let these people in.

    What do you think?

    Well, no good has come of Muslim immigration anywhere in the West. So, yes, it was and continues to be a mistake to let Muslims migrate to the West at the rate they have been allowed in.


    Thanks, Frank. We used to have a White Australia Policy, which would have ruled most Muslims out. This changed with the introduction of Multiculturalism. Do your thoughts extend to the tinted races as well?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    You are a mad, unmoored psycho bastard, Bwian.

    How does it FEEL?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 25th, 2019 at 1:09pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    You are a mad, unmoored psycho bastard, Bwian.

    How does it FEEL?


    How does what feel, Soren?  To be me?  Wonderful.  I wake up in the morning and think about the marvellous life I lead, my family, my friends and then I wonder what new things I will find out, discover, experience.   Unfortunately, then I read your bullshit.   It is a shame that you destroy a wonderful, thankful mood.  It really is.   Have you ever considered getting help for your Islamophobia and your antipathy towards me?   I am sure some of your psychiatrist friends could help you.   ::)



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 25th, 2019 at 2:29pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 1:09pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    You are a mad, unmoored psycho bastard, Bwian.

    How does it FEEL?


    How does what feel, Soren?  To be me?  Wonderful.  I wake up in the morning and think about the marvellous life I lead, my family, my friends and then I wonder what new things I will find out, discover, experience.   Unfortunately, then I read your bullshit.   It is a shame that you destroy a wonderful, thankful mood.  It really is.   Have you ever considered getting help for your Islamophobia and your antipathy towards me?   I am sure some of your psychiatrist friends could help you.   ::)


    Actually, the old boy died years ago. You're talking to his cryogenically frozen brain.

    Always absolutely never ever, no?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 25th, 2019 at 6:24pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 1:09pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    You are a mad, unmoored psycho bastard, Bwian.

    How does it FEEL?


    How does what feel, Soren?  To be me?  Wonderful.  I wake up in the morning and think about the marvellous life I lead, my family, my friends and then I wonder what new things I will find out, discover, experience.   Unfortunately, then I read your bullshit.   It is a shame that you destroy a wonderful, thankful mood.  It really is.   Have you ever considered getting help for your Islamophobia and your antipathy towards me?   I am sure some of your psychiatrist friends could help you.   ::)

    I am hostile towards your unmoored, psychotic, bare-faced dishonesty and idiocy, Bwian.
    The rest of you I really like. 


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 25th, 2019 at 7:12pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 6:24pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 1:09pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    You are a mad, unmoored psycho bastard, Bwian.

    How does it FEEL?


    How does what feel, Soren?  To be me?  Wonderful.  I wake up in the morning and think about the marvellous life I lead, my family, my friends and then I wonder what new things I will find out, discover, experience.   Unfortunately, then I read your bullshit.   It is a shame that you destroy a wonderful, thankful mood.  It really is.   Have you ever considered getting help for your Islamophobia and your antipathy towards me?   I am sure some of your psychiatrist friends could help you.   ::)

    I am hostile towards your unmoored, psychotic, bare-faced dishonesty and idiocy, Bwian.
    The rest of you I really like. 


    Why thank'ee, Soren, that's perhaps the nicest thing you've ever said to me, about me.  I thank you.  I must admit, I find you rather tiresome with your constant use of ad hominem insults, foolish Islamophobia, Racism and Xenophobia.  They are not becoming in an Australian in the 21st century, not at all but I am sure we can change your attitudes with enough work.   8-)

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by John Smith on Jan 25th, 2019 at 7:40pm
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



    Hilarious. FD accuses others of being misleading :D :D



    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Karnal on Jan 25th, 2019 at 8:35pm

    John Smith wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 7:40pm:
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



    Hilarious. FD accuses others of being misleading :D :D




    Good to have you back, JS. You're one of us.

    FD just gets things mixed up. Remember, he was ever so traumatised by Abu. He's just a shell of the FD we used to know, it's not his fault.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 25th, 2019 at 8:51pm

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 6:24pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 1:09pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    You are a mad, unmoored psycho bastard, Bwian.

    How does it FEEL?


    How does what feel, Soren?  To be me?  Wonderful.  I wake up in the morning and think about the marvellous life I lead, my family, my friends and then I wonder what new things I will find out, discover, experience.   Unfortunately, then I read your bullshit.   It is a shame that you destroy a wonderful, thankful mood.  It really is.   Have you ever considered getting help for your Islamophobia and your antipathy towards me?   I am sure some of your psychiatrist friends could help you.   ::)

    I am hostile towards your unmoored, psychotic, bare-faced dishonesty and idiocy, Bwian.
    The rest of you I really like. 


    Why thank'ee, Soren, that's perhaps the nicest thing you've ever said to me, about me.  I thank you.  I must admit, I find you rather tiresome with your constant use of ad hominem insults, foolish Islamophobia, Racism and Xenophobia.  They are not becoming in an Australian in the 21st century, not at all but I am sure we can change your attitudes with enough work.   8-)

    The question is, my unsuspecting little womble, what is left beyond the moored, psychotic, bare-faced dishonesty and idiocy.
    I can't see anything but you may surprise us.  What else is there to you, Bwian?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Brian Ross on Jan 25th, 2019 at 9:23pm

    Frank wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 8:51pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 6:24pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 1:09pm:

    Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    You are a mad, unmoored psycho bastard, Bwian.

    How does it FEEL?


    How does what feel, Soren?  To be me?  Wonderful.  I wake up in the morning and think about the marvellous life I lead, my family, my friends and then I wonder what new things I will find out, discover, experience.   Unfortunately, then I read your bullshit.   It is a shame that you destroy a wonderful, thankful mood.  It really is.   Have you ever considered getting help for your Islamophobia and your antipathy towards me?   I am sure some of your psychiatrist friends could help you.   ::)

    I am hostile towards your unmoored, psychotic, bare-faced dishonesty and idiocy, Bwian.
    The rest of you I really like. 


    Why thank'ee, Soren, that's perhaps the nicest thing you've ever said to me, about me.  I thank you.  I must admit, I find you rather tiresome with your constant use of ad hominem insults, foolish Islamophobia, Racism and Xenophobia.  They are not becoming in an Australian in the 21st century, not at all but I am sure we can change your attitudes with enough work.   8-)

    The question is, my unsuspecting little womble, what is left beyond the moored, psychotic, bare-faced dishonesty and idiocy.
    I can't see anything but you may surprise us.  What else is there to you, Bwian?


    Oh, many things, many things, my dear, Soren.   I am a patriot - with qualifications.  I am not a jingoist.  I believe in the equality of man (and woman).  I believe for Australia to go forward, we must not forget our past.  We have contributed greatly to the world in the fields of science, in the fields of politics and of course in sociology/psychology/etc.   We must learn not to sell ourselves short.  I enjoy reading books, sport, the arts.  I believe I am a well rounded person.  I have a loving family.  I have taught IT to vocational and tertiary students.  I hold senior positions in the IT industry.  I served for 10 years in the Australian Army.

    What about you, Soren?  What is there beyond your Islamophobia, Racism and Xenophobia?  Tell us about your other fields of interest?  Something for us to hang your hat and coat on.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 26th, 2019 at 11:11am

    Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:18pm:
    The Bible causes it.

    Christianity has to have a reformation to 1/. stop the daily slaughter around the globe, 2/. stop the tens of thousands of little starved to death by Christians intent on killing each other, 3/. stop the millions of Christian refugees around the globe who expect the secular world to feed and shelter them.

    The answer is right there in front of you:

    Question the evil in The Bible and purge this satanic malevolence.

    Of course we all know Christianity will die in that day, but so what, I would rather the little kids live, the global refugee problem resolved, the daily global bloodshed stopped, I don't care if all this depravity ceases and Christianity dies.   ::) ::) ::)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mw9AXeNMjc

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 26th, 2019 at 5:45pm

    polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 1:03pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
    Or, are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

    Surely not.


    This is the crux of it. FD is this your position? So far you've really only managed to argue that if not for Islam, there would be no "Islamic style" violence.



    Were those 'warriors of Allah' raping, murdering and pillaging while they were in Australia, England, Belgium, Sweden, France etc?

    No.

    Sharia law unleashed them and let them loose to act impeccably Islamically for the Islamic State.





    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Frank on Jan 26th, 2019 at 7:01pm
    Orwell studies: 84% of academics believe problems raised in 1984 can be fixed with solutions from Animal Farm

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:45pm
    Oh look, here's another thread about Greg's lies.

    He has been at it again:

    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379233325/2496#2496

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Abu on Jun 16th, 2019 at 1:36am

    freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:45pm:
    Oh look, here's another thread about Greg's lies.

    He has been at it again:

    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379233325/2496#2496


    That's your thread, dear. Greggery's thread has brought you out as a card-carrying white-supremacist.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. Why don't you just own it?

    White pride is not a race.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by PZ547 on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:36am

    Karnal wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 1:36am:

    freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:45pm:
    Oh look, here's another thread about Greg's lies.

    He has been at it again:

    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379233325/2496#2496


    That's your thread, dear. Greggery's thread has brought you out as a card-carrying white-supremacist.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. Why don't you just own it?

    White pride is not a race.



    nor is islam

    nor is Judaism

    nor is 'tinted'


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by polite_gandalf on Jun 16th, 2019 at 2:00pm

    PZ547 wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:36am:
    nor is Judaism


    jews might disagree with you on that.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Abu on Jun 18th, 2019 at 6:59pm

    PZ547 wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 8:36am:
    nor is nor is 'tinted'


    And the Boongs might disagree with you on that.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on Jun 28th, 2019 at 5:34pm
    bump for Greg

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby. on Jun 28th, 2019 at 5:40pm

    freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2019 at 5:34pm:
    bump for Greg



    Yes - where is out resident Islamic terrorism apologist?


    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by barryfromthebush on Jun 28th, 2019 at 7:44pm

    Bobby. wrote on Jun 28th, 2019 at 5:40pm:

    freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2019 at 5:34pm:
    bump for Greg



    Yes - where is out resident Islamic terrorism apologist?


    Having a delicious vindaloo with his better half Aussie...

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by Bobby. on Jun 28th, 2019 at 7:47pm

    barryfromthebush wrote on Jun 28th, 2019 at 7:44pm:

    Bobby. wrote on Jun 28th, 2019 at 5:40pm:

    freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2019 at 5:34pm:
    bump for Greg



    Yes - where is out resident Islamic terrorism apologist?


    Having a delicious vindaloo with his better half Aussie...



    I doubt it -
    one lives on the west coast and the other the east coast of Australia.

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by John Smith on Jun 28th, 2019 at 7:50pm

    freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
    In other words, he is afraid to offer any opinion, meaning, or interpretation - just quotes of exactly what is said.




    ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D
    ;D ;D ;D ;D


    did FD really say that?

    Title: Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
    Post by freediver on May 23rd, 2020 at 9:13am

    polite_gandalf wrote on May 11th, 2020 at 1:33pm:

    freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2020 at 9:11am:
    You lie when you argue that the presumption of innocence requires or implies any kind of assumptions about crime statistics.


    No its what I genuinely believe. That is by definition not a lie.


    freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2020 at 9:11am:
    It is the very definition of making up statistics Gandalf. You and Greg are lying.


    What crap. If I assumed it to be anything other than 0% without a shred of evidence, then that is actually the very definition of making up statistics.


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