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Title: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm

The following is the logic of Yadda, FD, Valkie et al.

All Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism.

All terrorists are Muslim.

All Muslims who preach peace are liars.

All liars are Muslim.

Gandalf is a Muslim. Gandalf preaches peace therefore Gandalf is a liar.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You have repeatedly accused Gandalf of lying or 'weaseling' his way of something, like the collective treacherous Jews.

You're very clever by saying: "Can you quote me saying any of those things?" I don't need to; I know what's in your heart and mind, and no matter how much you try to dress it up, you fundamentally believe each of those things above.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by cods on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 7:03pm

shouldnt this be in ISLAM fd...

the MRBs are now becoming like the Reject Shop... >:( >:( a bit of everything all over the place..

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:00pm

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

shouldnt this be in ISLAM fd...

the MRBs are now becoming like the Reject Shop... >:( >:( a bit of everything all over the place..

You don't think Islamophobia is a form of extremism?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by DonDeeHippy on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 5:50am

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

yeah actions r greater than words, any post on this site where someone acts bad , one of these guys inevitable reference it to Islam... they cant help them selves. ;) ;)
:D :D

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:00pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

shouldnt this be in ISLAM fd...

the MRBs are now becoming like the Reject Shop... >:( >:( a bit of everything all over the place..

You don't think Islamophobia is a form of extremism?

;D ;D ;D ;D

"Islamophobia" is a form of extremism!!!!

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

I'm not lying FD. You, Valkie and your ilk claim that there ain't a 'racist bone in your body', but drink-drivers frequently claim that they're not 'drunk'.

The fact that you attributed the plight of Arabs to inbreeding (by showing a dubious chart) indicates that you have racist inclinations.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Yadda on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 10:25am

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

The following is the logic of Yadda, FD, Valkie et al.

All Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism.

All terrorists are Muslim.

All Muslims who preach peace are liars.

All liars are Muslim.

Gandalf is a Muslim.

Gandalf preaches peace therefore Gandalf is a liar.

Some TRUE and some ILLOGICAL [and 'mis-direction'] ARGUMENTS - above.

LOGICAL ARGUMENTS, below.

ARGUMENT;
Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17

Quote:

The heart of ISLAM is the Koran [and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].

THE TRUTH IS, that ISLAM is a philosophy which encourages the murder or enslavement of those who reject ISLAM
[through the agency of terror and never-ending conflict].

EVIDENCE for that proposition/argument;

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22

"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

.

IMAGE.....

Ali Kadri - Islamic Council of Queensland vice-president,
features in The Mosque Next Door on SBS.

Quote:

"There's no underlying religious text or reasons why [moslems] go out and kill people......"

- Ali Kadri
------- >
https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/we-wont-stop-terrorist-attacks-by-blaming-islam/3259588/

Auggie,

QUESTION;

Is Ali Kadri [above], a moslem ?

QUESTION;

Should we unquestioningly believe what moslems tell us, and assert, about ISLAM ?

Or should we seek for, and believe the [apparent] truth, about what ISLAM is ?

.

Quote:

Bill • Dec 4, 2017 at 22:55

Islam means submission and conquest with subjugation.

Islam is authoritarian, pedophilic, supremacist, polygamous, subversive, cleptocratic, hostile to liberty and hostile to classic liberalism, violent, hair-triggered, theocratic, and abusive to non Muslims.

This is the heart of ISLAM.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11484/erdogan-moderate-islam
[in comments]

.

Q.
What 'is' ISLAM ?

ISLAM is a philosophy which urges its followers,
to use deceit,
lying,
intrigue,
intimidation,
and vicious murders and terror,
against those who reject ISLAM's strictures.

.

By definition, every person who self-declares, as a moslem, is a follower of ISLAM and is a supporter what,
1/ ISLAM and 2/ ISLAMIC law endorses, promotes, and encourages.

Otherwise, that person would not assert and insist, that he is a follower of ISLAM.

.

Quote:

Jun 12, 2018

Mauritania makes death penalty for leaving Islam mandatory:
“We want to be as close to the real Sharia as possible”

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/mauritania-makes-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam-mandatory-we-want-to-be-as-close-to-the-real-sharia-as-possible

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1484729546/1#1
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1484729546/11#11

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 10:28am

THe problem with the OP is its assuming Yadda has any logic.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Yadda on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 10:32am

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

The following is the logic of Yadda, FD, Valkie et al.

All Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism.

All terrorists are Muslim.

All Muslims who preach peace are liars.

All liars are Muslim.

Gandalf is a Muslim.

Gandalf preaches peace therefore Gandalf is a liar.

.

FURTHER response.....

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1

Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"
- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

.

ARGUMENT;
There is an identifiable group of people, who do, facilitate, enable, encourage and commit acts of terror,
as an endorsed cultural modality.

They are called moslems.

They are the followers, of ISLAM.

WAKE UP PEOPLE !

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 6:27pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

So stating a fact makes you racist now? Do you deny that a lot of Muslims are retarded due to inbreeding? Do you think trying to sweep it under the carpet is going to help the problem? Do you like seeing little girls married off to their cousins to be raped and raise inbred, retarded jihadis? If they were any religion other than Islam, would you be trying this idiotic ploy of using the race card to defend them from facts?

If you know I never said those things in your OP, don't you think it was a little stupid to try to attribute them to me?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 9:26pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

You're running with the typical Rightard argument that 'facts aren't racist' yadda yadda... What you don't get is the fact you're pointing out THAT fact as the primary drive behind the plight of Arabs.

In the second case, no, it's not because you believe those things.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 9:35pm

Auggie should read what the ex muslim Ali Sina wrote about Islamophobia.

Quote:

"Islamophobia" is ad hominem

Islam is an ideology. Rejection of an ideology cannot be classified as phobia. To call the opponents of an ideology phobic is a fallacy. All ideologies have their critics and opponents but we do not hear Christians calling the critics of Christianity Christianophobe, communists calling their critics communitophobe or Hindus calling theirs hinduphobe. The term "Islamophobia" is both technically and logically incorrect and misleading.

According to Dictionary.com Phobia is “a persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.” Therefore the neologism "Islamophobia" implies that Islam is not dangerous and the fear of it is irrational.

This claim has not been established and it is not universally agreed upon. There are many who argue that Islam is indeed a dangerous ideology and they have their logical arguments to prove their claim. Irrespective of whether the critics of Islam are right or wrong about whether Islam is dangerous or not, calling them “phobic” implies that their criticism has been already refuted and the irrationality of their fear of Islamic threat has been established. Therefore their disagreement with Islam is not logical but a mental disorder.

All ideologies have their opponents. It is sheer arrogance to call criticism of any ideology, phobia. This implies that the truth of that ideology is already established and anyone opposing it is adopting an irrational position and is in need of psychological help.
The neologism Islamophobia makes absolutely no sense. It is derogatory and is used in a pejorative way to discredit the critics of Islam from the outset.

Phobia is a disorder. Here is a short list of a few phobias: Achluophobia or Lygophobia (fear of darkness), Acrophobia, (fear of heights), Androphobia (fear of men), Aviatophobia (fear of flying), Chiraptophobia (fear of being touched), Claustrophobia (fear of confined spaces), Coitophobia (fear of coitus), Decidophobia (fear of making decisions), Agrophobia or Demophobia (fear of crowds), Eleutherophobia (fear of freedom), Gynophobia (fear of women), Hadephobia (fear of hell -this is the phobia affecting all the Muslims), Hylophobia (fear of forests), Insectophobia, (fear of insects), Isolophobia (fear of solitude, being alone), Necrophobia, (fear of death or dead things), Neophobia (fear of anything new), Phasmophobia, (fear of ghosts), Philophobia, (fear of falling in love or being in love), Xenophobia, (fear of strangers or foreigners), etc. (For more see this)

How can criticism of Islam fall into this category? These are all irrational fears that require therapy. Are Muslims suggesting that the critics of Islam should receive therapy? We can’t classify disagreement with Islam as phobia. Islam is an ideology. Phobia is irrational fear of things, people or situations but not beliefs. You can't be phobic of a belief system. Beliefs per se are not frightening. It's people who follow nefarious beliefs that become dangerous and frightening. As one can see, the very term "Islamophobia" is stupid because Islam is a belief system and it is not possible to be phobic of a belief. From whichever angle you look at Islam you find its stupidity glaring at you.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60526.htm

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 10:27pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

No I don't Auggie. You lie. Again. Even when you agree with me you trip over your own apologism.

And you do agree with me right? You have zero evidence to back up any of the claims you have attributed to me, and you also agree that a lot of Muslims are retarded due to inbreeding.

Saying it is true doesn't make you a racist Auggie. It just makes you honest.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by issuevoter on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 10:44pm

Islamophobia yesterday: a knife wielding zombie killed 2 and injured 3 at a Sunni mosque in Cape Town. He was very calm and methodical, and attempted to behead one victim before being shot. THis is how muzlims go berserk, they get hopped up on the Koran, and then their eyes glaze over. This came a month after a similar attack at a Shia mosque in Durban. This is the real Islamophobia. They hate each other.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 8:28am

Perhaps he was alienated.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Karnal on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 11:56am

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

Yes, FD, but who said they're an inbred race of retards who squat down to pee and play with their dicks afterwards?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Karnal on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 11:58am

Auggie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

FD's not racist, Auggie. Subhuman retards are not a race. Ask FD.

They're a sub-species.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 10:08am

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Auggie the mind reader ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 10:11am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:00pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

shouldnt this be in ISLAM fd...

the MRBs are now becoming like the Reject Shop... >:( >:( a bit of everything all over the place..

You don't think Islamophobia is a form of extremism?

You don't think Wahabbism is?
You don't think ISIS is?
You don't think the Muslims world wide who are part of or support such groups are?
You don't think some Islamic states are largely populated by the brainwashed?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 10:12am

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

Really... what you've posted is just libel... slander and bigotry by any other name.. you need to back up your claims with proof, not claim you are a mind reader. :D

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 10:15am

Auggie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

ISLAM is NOT a RACE....
So you have simply used the LW Prog fallacy to libel people. :D

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 1:32pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 10:15am:

Auggie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

ISLAM is NOT a RACE....
So you have simply used the LW Prog fallacy to libel people. :D

I’m not talking about their attitudes to Islam. I’m talking about something else. I’m saying that they’re both islamophobic and racist.

Attributing the plight of a certain group of people to inbreeding is racist.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 1:33pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Can you quote me saying any of those things? Or is every single one a lie?

You are confused Auggie. Asking you to quote me saying those things is not some kind of magic trick. Not sure why you are so desperate to defend Islam, but lying isn't going to help.

I'm not defending Islam. I couldn't give two hoots about Islam or any religion. I am defending against bigotry and slander.

That's a pissweak excuse Auggie. You are defending against your own lies, nothing more.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

Again, you’re missing the point. It’s the fact that you attempt to dehumanise other people that makes you a racist. The inbreeding point is an argument which seeks to dehumanise Arabs: if they’re inbreed then we shouldn’t help them because it’s their fault.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:05pm

Quote:

Again, you’re missing the point. It’s the fact that you attempt to dehumanise other people that makes you a racist.

Do you share Gandalf's view that racism is not about race, but about having a different opinion to you?

How do you think the victims of genuine racism feel about your vacuous hysterics?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:25pm

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Again, you’re missing the point. It’s the fact that you attempt to dehumanise other people that makes you a racist.

Do you share Gandalf's view that racism is not about race, but about having a different opinion to you?

How do you think the victims of genuine racism feel about your vacuous hysterics?

Gandalf doesn't share that view.

Second, you believe that some races are better than others. This is the very definition of racism. The fact that you elude to the high rates of inbreeding among Arabs indicates that you believe that Arabs are 'lesser' than other races.

That is the very definition of racism.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:35pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Again, you’re missing the point. It’s the fact that you attempt to dehumanise other people that makes you a racist.

Do you share Gandalf's view that racism is not about race, but about having a different opinion to you?

How do you think the victims of genuine racism feel about your vacuous hysterics?

Can you quote me? Or is this another example of you rejecting reality and replacing it with your own?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:39pm

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Again, you’re missing the point. It’s the fact that you attempt to dehumanise other people that makes you a racist.

Do you share Gandalf's view that racism is not about race, but about having a different opinion to you?

How do you think the victims of genuine racism feel about your vacuous hysterics?

Can you quote me? Or is this another example of you rejecting reality and replacing it with your own?

Yes, you've said that 'inbreeding is responsible for the plight of the Arabs, and as a result they are poorer than other races. They, therefore don't deserve our help.'

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 8:07pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:39pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Again, you’re missing the point. It’s the fact that you attempt to dehumanise other people that makes you a racist.

Do you share Gandalf's view that racism is not about race, but about having a different opinion to you?

How do you think the victims of genuine racism feel about your vacuous hysterics?

Can you quote me? Or is this another example of you rejecting reality and replacing it with your own?

Yes, you've said that 'inbreeding is responsible for the plight of the Arabs, and as a result they are poorer than other races. They, therefore don't deserve our help.'

I meant, can you quote what I said, not your lies about what I said.

How does lying help you defend against bigotry and slander?

How do you think the victims of genuine racism feel about your vacuous hysterics?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 8:19pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

You are a silly ass.

Therefore you are a silly ass.

Disprove it, silly ass.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 2:13pm

Islamophobes have no logic to their hatred of Muslims.

Soren is a perfect example of this. Tsk, tsk, ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 3:16pm

Quote:

Gandalf is a Muslim. Gandalf preaches peace

The gandis of the world are sneaky little fellows.

A favourite cherry pick of theirs is: 2:256. There is no compulsion in religion.

Such a benign part of a couple of verses:

2:256. There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

2:257. Allah is the Wali (Protector or Guardian) of those who believe. He brings them out from darkness into light. But as for those who disbelieve, their Auliya (supporters and helpers) are Taghut [false deities and false leaders, etc.], they bring them out from light into darkness. Those are the dwellers of the Fire, and they will abide therein forever.

So there is no compulsion in religion however those who don't believe will be in hellfires forever.

Now what does the quran say about people who don't believe?

40:35. Those who dispute about the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, without any authority that has come to them, it is greatly hateful and disgusting to Allah and to those who believe. Thus does Allah seal up the heart of every arrogant, tyrant. (So they cannot guide themselves to the Right Path).

Fairly obvious, allah and muslims hate the unbelievers, so where does that leave us?

Well an inherent primal principle of islam is:

Hatred for the sake of Allah and love for the sake of Allah is called Al Walaa wa al Baraa, a fundamental principle of Islamic ethics and Sharia. A Muslim is to hate what Allah hates and love what Allah loves. Allah hates the Kafir / unbeliever, therefore, a Muslim is to act accordingly.

So it is an undisputed fact that islam is hate speech pure and simple, muslims who say different are lying.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 7:08pm

Gandalf preaches about mindless collectives of treacherous Jews. Tough titties, off with their heads!

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:12pm

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 7:08pm:

Gandalf preaches about mindless collectives of treacherous Jews. Tough titties, off with their heads!

So, he's a liar?

Do you uphold your use of porkies in the campaign against the Muselman?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:19pm

Do you believe him that they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews?

Auggie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:39pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Again, you’re missing the point. It’s the fact that you attempt to dehumanise other people that makes you a racist.

Do you share Gandalf's view that racism is not about race, but about having a different opinion to you?

How do you think the victims of genuine racism feel about your vacuous hysterics?

Can you quote me? Or is this another example of you rejecting reality and replacing it with your own?

Yes, you've said that 'inbreeding is responsible for the plight of the Arabs, and as a result they are poorer than other races. They, therefore don't deserve our help.'

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:22pm

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:19pm:

Do you believe him that they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews?

Auggie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:39pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Again, you’re missing the point. It’s the fact that you attempt to dehumanise other people that makes you a racist.

Do you share Gandalf's view that racism is not about race, but about having a different opinion to you?

How do you think the victims of genuine racism feel about your vacuous hysterics?

Can you quote me? Or is this another example of you rejecting reality and replacing it with your own?

Yes, you've said that 'inbreeding is responsible for the plight of the Arabs, and as a result they are poorer than other races. They, therefore don't deserve our help.'

Do you uphold your use of porkies in your campaign against the Muselman?

Are they just sub-human degenerates who squat down to pee and play with their dicks all day?

What sound does a jellyfish make?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:25pm

Is your retreat to gibberish your concession that you made it all up?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:32pm

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:25pm:

Is your retreat to gibberish your concession that you made it all up?

I don't need to quote you; I know what you think and how you feel about the issue. Your asking me to quote you is just another one of your sophist tricks.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:21pm

You are clueless, every step of the way. You have tried redefining every religion so that religious conflict gets defined out of existence, and when that didn't work, you reinvented the views of Islam's critics. But the problems with Islam won't disappear on account of your self delusion Auggie.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:22pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

If that's what you believe, then so be it. I won't ask you to quote me, though.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:49pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

Thank you, paki arseburglar, you may remove the mask and confess to being this mong.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:51pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:49pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

Thank you, paki arseburglar, you may remove the mask and confess to being this mong.

What do you say, Karnal? Shall I admit that I am you, and that you are I? That Auggie is just another sock of Karnal?

Superior culture, innit?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:54pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

If that's what you believe, then so be it. I won't ask you to quote me, though.

I can quote you being clueless if you want. Would you like me to quote your opening post again?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Islamophobes have no logic to their hatred of Muslims.

Soren is a perfect example of this. Tsk, tsk, ::)

Tell me one thing I should like about Islam that is unique to it, thick, pretentious airhead.

One thing you like about it and recommend and find nowhere else.

One.

Stupid.

Bloody.

Airhead.

ONE.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:55pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

If that's what you believe, then so be it. I won't ask you to quote me, though.

I can quote you being clueless if you want. Would you like me to quote your opening post again?

It's your forum, you can quote whom and what you want. You don't need my permission to quote me.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:59pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

If that's what you believe, then so be it. I won't ask you to quote me, though.

I can quote you being clueless if you want. Would you like me to quote your opening post again?

It's your forum, you can quote whom and what you want. You don't need my permission to quote me.

Would you be embarrassed if I quoted you sprouting off about something you know nothing about?

And how did you get it so wrong? It's not like you only joined up yesterday.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 9:03pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:59pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

If that's what you believe, then so be it. I won't ask you to quote me, though.

I can quote you being clueless if you want. Would you like me to quote your opening post again?

It's your forum, you can quote whom and what you want. You don't need my permission to quote me.

Would you be embarrassed if I quoted you sprouting off about something you know nothing about?

And how did you get it so wrong? It's not like you only joined up yesterday.

I'll tell you what? I'll let you quote me if you tell me the reason why Mothra and John Smith were banned? And I mean the real reason...

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Karnal on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 9:03pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:51pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:49pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

Thank you, paki arseburglar, you may remove the mask and confess to being this mong.

What do you say, Karnal? Shall I admit that I am you, and that you are I? That Auggie is just another sock of Karnal?

Superior culture, innit?

No no, dear, we'll keep them guessing.

Ask FD if he's too embarrassed to say whether he upholds the use of porkies in his campaign against the Muselman.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Karnal on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 9:06pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 9:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:59pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

If that's what you believe, then so be it. I won't ask you to quote me, though.

I can quote you being clueless if you want. Would you like me to quote your opening post again?

It's your forum, you can quote whom and what you want. You don't need my permission to quote me.

Would you be embarrassed if I quoted you sprouting off about something you know nothing about?

And how did you get it so wrong? It's not like you only joined up yesterday.

I'll tell you what? I'll let you quote me if you tell me the reason why Mothra and John Smith were banned? And I mean the real reason...

I was banned for calling Big Hole a silly old tart.

All hush-hush, of course. FD didn't want to say.

FD, you see, was offended.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by gandalf on Jun 23^rd, 2018 at 1:24am

Auggie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

To be fair, FD prefers to grab something I said which is apparently unreasonable or extreme in some way, and quote it with a gleeful comment like "muslim logic" or "muslim justifying... [insert something outrageous]". Or else he simply bald-facedly lies and attributes the comment to muslims en mass, like in his wiki page. In short, simply attributing the same (negative) traits to muslims en mass.

Social psychologists who know a thing or two about racism and prejudice describe this process as performing "outgroup homogeneity" - where the 'outgroup' (the group in which the racism/prejudice is targeting, in this case "muslims"), is dehumanised as a homogenous unthinking collective.

Its not hard to see exactly the same process when FD inanely declares "Arabs tend to be poor wherever they are. A lot of them are retarded due to inbreeding", or concludes without any thought whatsoever that comparitvely low workforce participation rates amongst muslims "prove muslims are lazy".

To any sane thinking person, this is out and out racism, pure and simple. I get the feeling FD understands this too - and this is why he'll troll you for 4+ pages screeching "liar", inanely demanding why you "got it so wrong", and taunting you about how embarassed you would feel if he quoted your OP - and just about anything else he can think of that will dodge the actual point.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 23^rd, 2018 at 8:52am

Quote:

Social psychologists who know a thing or two about racism and prejudice describe this process as performing "outgroup homogeneity" - where the 'outgroup' (the group in which the racism/prejudice is targeting, in this case "muslims"), is dehumanised as a homogenous unthinking collective.

Is a mindless collective of treacherous Jews a good example of outgroup homogeneity?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by gandalf on Jun 23^rd, 2018 at 1:08pm

freediver wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2018 at 8:52am:

Quote:

Is a mindless collective of treacherous Jews a good example of outgroup homogeneity?

Sure. It is after all rather typical of the sort of terms you come up with.

And by shoving it down my mouth for 5 years in an attempt to pass me off as racist, it does say quite a bit about the cognitive dissonance you clearly have about your own racism.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 23^rd, 2018 at 1:16pm

Ah. Perhaps we should clear this up once and for all then. Do you think they were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by gandalf on Jun 23^rd, 2018 at 1:52pm

no.

So is it really 'cleared up once and for all' now? Yeah I didn't think so either.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 23^rd, 2018 at 6:27pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Islamophobes have no logic to their hatred of Muslims.

Soren is a perfect example of this. Tsk, tsk, ::)

Tell me one thing I should like about Islam that is unique to it, thick, pretentious airhead.

One thing you like about it and recommend and find nowhere else.

One.

Stupid.

Bloody.

Airhead.

ONE.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. You don't have to like anything about Islam You just have to tolerate Islam. You however, have an active antipathy towards it. What a shame. ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:10pm

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion??? ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:02pm

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

They are all devout followers of terrorism.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:10pm:

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion??? ::)

So? Now is now, Bwian, 30 years ago, 500 years ago was then. Why should we ignore what's happening NOW, just because something else was happening at some other time???

Your idiocy never ceases to astonish.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 9:08pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:02pm:

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

They are all devout followers of terrorism.

Islam, you are trying to say.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 9:41pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2018 at 1:52pm:

no.

So is it really 'cleared up once and for all' now? Yeah I didn't think so either.

You are right.

But you never did answer my question about outgroup homogeneity. Do you think I understand what you were saying about it correctly?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 8:58am

Frank wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 9:08pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:02pm:

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

They are all devout followers of terrorism.

Islam, you are trying to say.

No, jellyfish, I’m trying to say.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 1:55pm

Brian Ross' excuse: Reply #60 - Yesterday at 6:10pm

Quote:

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion???

30 years ago? Another smokescreen to excuse 21st century islamic terror?

O.K. please be kind enough to inform us: Who were the top 24 listed global terrorist organizations 30 years ago?

Please tell us what religion they were using to validate their terrorism, please back up your statements by quoting the various religious texts they were using for said substantiation.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 3:02pm

Frank wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:10pm:

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion??? ::)

Your world is so limited, Soren. As the Bard once suggested, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." The world changes, political and religous views change. Threats change. 30 years ago it was CHRISTIAN Terrorists who were the threat. Today it is Muslims. Tomorrow? Who knows? Nothing is constant, despite your Islamophobic beliefs. Time you grew up and realised that. ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 3:11pm

moses wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 1:55pm:

Brian Ross' excuse: Reply #60 - Yesterday at 6:10pm

Quote:

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion???

No, Moses. I am trying to get you to realise that your Islamophobic fears allow you to condemn 1.6 billion Muslims because they believe in a god different to your own. 30 years ago, Christian Terrorists were a real threat. A very real threat. Today, their political problems have been largely solved, that threat has faded. You don't want to admit that they were ever a threat, do you? Christians can be just as violent, just as blood thirsty as some Muslims can be. You refuse to admit that, do you, Moses? Tsk, tsk. Today, Islamic Terrorism is a danger - relatively minor one outside of some Islamic countries but you fear Muslims and Islam so much you paint them all in the worst possible light. Islamophobe is what you are and it is reflected in most of your posts. You fear and hate Muslims even innocent Muslims. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. It rules your thinking, doesn't it? You have an unreasoning fear of Muslims - Islamophobia. You need help. Seek it. ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 3:24pm

So many smokescreens to hide and excuse islamic terrorism.

So many smokescreens to excuse the cause and motivation of islamic terrorism, (islam / qur'an)

So many smokescreens to avoid naming the cause of islamic terrorism, as the muslims and their apologists much more prefer the present day bloodshed death and destruction, over simply being truthful about the root cause of all the islamic terrorist problems the world is experiencing.(islam is the cause of its' own problems)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 4:12pm

moses wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

Where have I ever "excused" Islamic Terrorism, Moses?

Care to provide proof of that?

I am trying to make you see outside your narrow world of Islamophobia, to look at the bigger picture, to make you realise that this is just a passing phase in world events. In a decade, Islamismism willl be largely forgotten, replaced by some other threat and you'll be screaming about that, no doubt as if the world is about to end, just as you do about Islam and Muslims. Tsk, tsk, you really are a narrow minded bigot, aren't you? ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 5:15pm

Please read your above posts, you are desperately trying to take the attention away from muslims slaughtering innocent people because the qur'an tells them to.

You're a number one top notch apologist / exonerator, for islamic terrorism.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 5:27pm

An excuser wrote: Reply #70 - Today at 4:12pm

Quote:

to make you realise that this is just a passing phase in world events. In a decade, Islamismism willl be largely forgotten

,

Precisely what I'm trying to assist, by advocating that muslims and their apologists take responsibility for the evil in the qur'an which causes and motivates islamic terrorism, then moving this doctrinal depravity from the qur'an.

Of course we have the perpetrators and supporters of islamic terrorism fighting this tooth and nail, as islam will simply implode if exposed to the truth.

Quote:

replaced by some other threat and you'll be screaming about that,

If it is a global degenerate iniquity (such as islamic terrorism) Of course I'll speak out, while you naturally, will defend it.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:10pm:

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion??? ::)

No reason to ignore or play down the PRESENT threat, my thick little pseudo-intellectual fraud.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:23pm

moses wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 5:15pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really are a bigot, aren't you, Moses. All I am asking is that you give a "fair deal" to the 1.6 billion Muslins, the overwhelning number are innocent of any crimes you appear to imagine. I have never excused Terrorism, Moses and no matter how you attempt to claim otherwise, I will continue to believe everybody is due a fair chance until they prove otherwise, Moses. All are innocent until proven guilty and then their guilt is theirs alone. You believe in painting with a broadbrush, no Muslim is innocent in your eyes. You are a true bigot. You are absolutely disgusting, Moses. You have failed to demonstrate you actually practice the Christianity you so proudly proclaim to us. You have failed to follow your God's Commandments. You have failed to follow your Messiah's beliefs. You are a representative of the anti-Christ, not the Christ. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:27pm

What about the Nazis who never committed a crime. Should we spinelessly apologise for them at every opportunity also?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:32pm

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:27pm:

What about the Nazis who never committed a crime. Should we spinelessly apologise for them at every opportunity also?

Is there a direct link between Nazism and the acts they committed?? Yes.

Is there a direct link between Islam (as a religion) and the acts of terrorism. No.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:32pm

Frank wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:10pm:

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion??? ::)

No reason to ignore or play down the PRESENT threat, my thick little pseudo-intellectual fraud.

You appear to believe you are more important than you actually are, Soren. You are such a big man, aren't you? In reality you are as insignificant as an ant is to an elephant. The world will continue if you are alive or dead, just as it will if the same fate occurs to me. Islamic Terrorism is but a passing phase in world history. Islamism will cease to be a danger in the near future. Time you recognised that you suffer from a phobia, Soren. You need help. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:34pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:27pm:

What about the Nazis who never committed a crime. Should we spinelessly apologise for them at every opportunity also?

Is there a direct link between Nazism and the acts they committed?? Yes.

Is there a direct link between Islam (as a religion) and the acts of terrorism. No.

Can you explain?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:10pm:

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion??? ::)

No reason to ignore or play down the PRESENT threat, my thick little pseudo-intellectual fraud.

SO ignoring Islamic terrorism is the correct response to Islamic terrorism, you stupid old fraud? Ignore global Islamic terrorism but get really hot under the collar about Australian party politics and Pauline Hanson??????

You stand alone, Bwian, as the idiot king of this wide brown land.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:50pm

The correct response is to distinguish Islam (the religion) from Islamism the ideology.

If we can do this, then we all get somewhere, both on the right and the left.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:55pm

Muslim terrorists expressly, avowedly commit their terrorist act in the name of Islam, supported and justified by islamic religious and political doctrines.

Other muslims glorify them as martyrs, again, on the basis of religious and political islamic ideology. Mohamedans and others like the clowns here and elsewhere - yes, you, Augie-bargy, Bwain the Disoriented, gandalf al-Mohammed, kernel Al-Pakistani, gweggy Al S-bend etc - argue about criticism of islamic terrorism on the basis of - the horror!!! - islamophobia.

It all confirms, loud and clear, that islamic terrorism and it's defenders and excusers, are all gathered on the common ground of iSLAM, nothing else. Take islam out of the discussion and there is nothing left. Critics and defenders both speak about islam. So we must conclude that islamic terrorism, as the name suggests, has everything to do with islam.

This is higher-order reasoning for most islamists and their defenders but plain and obvious to the sane population.

Carry on with the circus, clowns.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:58pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:50pm:

The correct response is to distinguish Islam (the religion) from Islamism the ideology.

If we can do this, then we all get somewhere, both on the right and the left.

Muslims do not, expressly do not, do this. They do not WANT to do this. Whole way of life and all that, plus caliphatye and ummah.

You are not as ignorant as to be unaware of the impossibility of separating religion and the rest of existence within Islamic thought and practice, are you?

Alas, you are.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:58pm

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:55pm:

So, you are interpreting religion devoid of all spiritual components?? That makes an Islamist. Islam also has a concept of Heaven and Hell and of divine punishment.

Don't you think that the idea of a heaven and hell implicitly indicates restraint on a earthly level?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:01pm

Quote:

So, you are interpreting religion devoid of all spiritual components?? That makes an Islamist.

Crap. Islamists are into the spiritual carpet riding BS just as much as slaughtering the infidel. Where do you think the 72 virgins are? Heaven, or down at the local kindy?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:05pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:01pm:

Quote:

So, you are interpreting religion devoid of all spiritual components?? That makes an Islamist.

Crap. Islamists are into the spiritual carpet riding BS just as much as slaughtering the infidel. Where do you think the 72 virgins are? Heaven, or down at the local kindy?

The 72 virgins is not a Quranic concept, but a Hadith concept.

Unless of course, you are implying that God prescribed killing for the Muslim, and left Hell to those who the Muslims 'couldn't get around to killing'.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:13pm

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:10pm:

moses wrote on Jun 25^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

No one has to tolerate anything that spawns world wide terrorism.

The global top 24 listed terrorist groups, are all devout followers of ???

And 30 years ago the global top listed Terrorist organisations were devout followers of which religion??? ::)

No reason to ignore or play down the PRESENT threat, my thick little pseudo-intellectual fraud.

Who suggested it should be "ignored", Soren?

Concern about it should be placed in proportion. Islamist Terrorism is a minor problem for the overwhelming majority of the world's population. You are in greater danger from being struck by lightning than you are of being killed by an Islamist Terrorist.

If Western Governments were to address the root causes of Islamism and it's Terrorists, it would largely disappear, Soren. Your hatred and intolerance is one of it's driving forces. Your refusal to tolerate moderate, mainstream Islam shows how short sighted you are, Soren. ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:05pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:55pm:

You are a looney, that's what i think.

One minute you are strict about 'Oh, but it's not in thee koran'. The next minute you carry on about spiritual components. You are an idiot, except you are too simple even to be an idiot. You are a mouthy simpleton unaware of your limitations.

.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam - you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.
You are a stupid, white supremacist git, Bwian.
It is now up to the white man - Western Governments - to educate and guide thee unruly, out of hand brown musulmans about correct behaviour and because the white man is not guiding nature's wild musulman children, the white man's hand is bitten by said wild brown musulmans.

You are so blinkered and stupid that you do not see just how racist and supremacist your very stand is - musulmans would not be thee way they are if only white people were behaving differently. You present mohammedans as unable to make choices and so they are mere automaton who blow his way or that simply because thee white man.

You are an idiot of unique standing, Bwian. Carry on, fool, let us see what other shite is churning in what you are pleased to call your mind.

If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam - you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:19pm

Gus, Bwian, fold your arms into each others and walk down the road singing dirges about Islamophobia.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:29pm

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:55pm:

Is this how you respond to complex arguments? Using the tactics of the Leftards: evasion and insult.

Be a man, Frank. Argue like a man.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 10:57pm

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Islam is an excuse, Soren. Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism. It provides a rational for you and the Islamists to attack one another. The root cause is politics. Until the inequalities are addressed, Islamists will exploit them, just as you will, Soren. ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 11:00pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:29pm:

Be a man, Frank. Argue like a man.

Soren? Be a man? Never! ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 3:20pm

Our resident apologist for islamic terror wrote: Reply #74 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:23pm

Quote:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really are a bigot, aren't you, Moses.

Please be so kind as to address me with my full title: Bigoted islamophobic racist.

Quote:

All I am asking is that you give a "fair deal" to the 1.6 billion Muslins, the overwhelning number are innocent of any crimes you appear to imagine.

No you're not. You are desperately trying to hide the truth, which is, islam / qur'an is the cause and motivation of islamic atrocities being committed on a global scale by muslims today the 21st century.

Ask your islamic masters to be honest and remove the evil in their qur'an.

Quote:

I have never excused Terrorism, Moses and no matter how you attempt to claim otherwise, I will continue to believe everybody is due a fair chance until they prove otherwise, Moses. All are innocent until proven guilty and then their guilt is theirs alone. You believe in painting with a broadbrush, no Muslim is innocent in your eyes. You are a true bigot. You are absolutely disgusting, Moses. You have failed to demonstrate you actually practice the Christianity you so proudly proclaim to us. You have failed to follow your God's Commandments. You have failed to follow your Messiah's beliefs. You are a representative of the anti-Christ, not the Christ.

If I'm on the opposite side of the fence to you, I know without a shadow of a doubt that I'm on the right side.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 3:30pm

Quote:

Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism.

This is often sprouted by the apologists for islam.

Yet they can never show us how Christ advocated rape, torture and mass murder as muhammad did.

They all run and hide from the one simple truth:

muslims who commit atrocities are obeying muhammad

conversely

Iniquitous people who perpetrate depravities are disobeying Christ.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 3:55pm

moses wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 3:20pm:

Our resident apologist for islamic terror wrote: Reply #74 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:23pm

Quote:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really are a bigot, aren't you, Moses.

Please be so kind as to address me with my full title: Bigoted islamophobic racist.

Nope.

Quote:

[quote]All I am asking is that you give a "fair deal" to the 1.6 billion Muslins, the overwhelning number are innocent of any crimes you appear to imagine.

No you're not. You are desperately trying to hide the truth, which is, islam / qur'an is the cause and motivation of islamic atrocities being committed on a global scale by muslims today the 21st century.
[/quote]

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Moses. So, you have questioned all the Islamist Terrorists as to what their motivations are? Really? ::)

Quote:

Ask your islamic masters to be honest and remove the evil in their qur'an.

I have no 'Islamic masters', Moses. When are the Christians going to remove the evil in their Bible? Tsk, tsk. ::)

Quote:

[quote]I have never excused Terrorism, Moses and no matter how you attempt to claim otherwise, I will continue to believe everybody is due a fair chance until they prove otherwise, Moses. All are innocent until proven guilty and then their guilt is theirs alone. You believe in painting with a broadbrush, no Muslim is innocent in your eyes. You are a true bigot. You are absolutely disgusting, Moses. You have failed to demonstrate you actually practice the Christianity you so proudly proclaim to us. You have failed to follow your God's Commandments. You have failed to follow your Messiah's beliefs. You are a representative of the anti-Christ, not the Christ.

If I'm on the opposite side of the fence to you, I know without a shadow of a doubt that I'm on the right side.[/quote]

Your views are coloured by your beliefs, Moses. To you, your religion is supreme. To the rest of us, secular society with it's system of laws and it's judicial system is supreme. When you choose to leave your pre-18th century world and join the rest of us in the 21st century, I am sure some will welcome you. Until then, I'm sure you'll enjoy running the Inquisition that you want to subject all of us to.

Tail Gunner-Joe had nothing on you. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 3:58pm

moses wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 3:30pm:

Quote:

Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Forgotten your Bible, Moses? Forgotten the instructions it contains to oppress, enslave, misogynism, murder, etc. contained in the Old Testament? Poor, poor, Moses, it is amazing how one eyed your bigotry really is. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 4:32pm

Quote:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Moses. So, you have questioned all the Islamist Terrorists as to what their motivations are? Really?

Oh gee here we go, another smokescreen. so now you're going to say they don't believe they are obeying the qur'an?

Quote:

I have no 'Islamic masters', Moses. When are the Christians going to remove the evil in their Bible? Tsk, tsk.

No islamic masters? Goodness they will be pleased with your taqiyya, you've learnt your trade well.

Quote:

Your views are coloured by your beliefs, Moses. To you, your religion is supreme. To the rest of us, secular society with it's system of laws and it's judicial system is supreme. When you choose to leave your pre-18th century world and join the rest of us in the 21st century, I am sure some will welcome you. Until then, I'm sure you'll enjoy running the Inquisition that you want to subject all of us to.

Tail Gunner-Joe had nothing on you.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 4:52pm

moses wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

Quote:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Moses. So, you have questioned all the Islamist Terrorists as to what their motivations are? Really?

Oh gee here we go, another smokescreen. so now you're going to say they don't believe they are obeying the qur'an?

So, then, why do they gabble on about US forces in Saudi Arabia/Iraq/Syria, the plight of the Palestinians, the Rohyinga, etc? The Q'ran, like the Bible provides a justification for what they are doing but the actual reasons are far more earthly.

Quote:

[quote]I have no 'Islamic masters', Moses. When are the Christians going to remove the evil in their Bible? Tsk, tsk.

No islamic masters? Goodness they will be pleased with your taqiyya, you've learnt your trade well.
[/quote]

You really aren't working with a full deck, are you, Moses? Tsk, tsk. ::) ::)

Quote:

[quote]Your views are coloured by your beliefs, Moses. To you, your religion is supreme. To the rest of us, secular society with it's system of laws and it's judicial system is supreme. When you choose to leave your pre-18th century world and join the rest of us in the 21st century, I am sure some will welcome you. Until then, I'm sure you'll enjoy running the Inquisition that you want to subject all of us to.

Tail Gunner-Joe had nothing on you.

Well spit three times and call me allah.

So many words and not one mention of islamic terrorism, just smokescreen after smokescreen, all to prevent the truth about islamic doctrine and the commands to rape torture and kill innocent people.
[/quote]

"Are you a member of the Islamic faith?"
"No!"
"You are using taqiyya! Nothing you claim can be believed!"

So, how many Communists worked in the State Department, Tail Gunner-Joe? ::)

Quote:

[quote]Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Forgotten your Bible, Moses? Forgotten the instructions it contains to oppress, enslave, misogynism, murder, etc. contained in the Old Testament? Poor, poor, Moses, it is amazing how one eyed your bigotry really is.

well dearie dearie me, once again nothing to disprove my statement:

muslims who rape torture and slaughter innocent people are obeying muhammad'

Iniquitous people who perpetrate depravities are disobeying Christ.

Stands unchallenged I see. [/quote]

Christians who rape, torture, slaughter innocent people are obeying who's instructions, Moses? Mmm? ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 10:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Genius. We should get rid of politics, not Islam.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:44pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:29pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 6:55pm:

Is this how you respond to complex arguments? Using the tactics of the Leftards: evasion and insult.

Be a man, Frank. Argue like a man.

Oh! You presented a 'complex argument', did you?

Where? You asked two banal questions. Looking at your second - if heavenly reward is promised for evil deeds, as in Islam, then there will be NO restraint in evil deed in pursuit of heavenly rewards - see Islamic terrorism.

Muslims taunt Jews and Christians with "we love death more than you love life".
"We love death more than you love life."
-- Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 13 and wounding of 30 fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, TX

"We love death more than you love life."
-- Adis Medunjanin, part of a 911 call made in New York City after crashing his car while fleeing from federal agents who had confiscated his passport

"We have come to you... with people who love death more than you love life."
-- Ansar Jund Allah, Commander Of Gaza Organization

"How can death become joyous? How can death become happiness? When Al-Hussein asked his nephew Al-Qassem, when he had not yet reached puberty: 'How do you like the taste of death, son?' He answered that it was sweeter than honey. How can the foul taste of death become sweeter than honey? Only through conviction, ideology, and faith, through belief, and devotion... We do not want to... leave our homeland to Israel... Therefore, we are not interested in our own personal security. On the contrary, each of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah."
-- Hassan Nasrallah, Secretary-General of Lebanon's Hezbollah (or "Party of God"), Al-Manar TV , 18-19 February 2005

"We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom. There is a great difference between he who loves the hereafter and he who loves this world. The Muslim loves death and strives for martyrdom."
-- Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri, Chief Palestinian Authority Cleric

"The Jews preached permissiveness and corruption, as they hid behind false slogans like freedom and equality, humanism and brotherhood... They are cowards in battle... they flee from death and fear fighting... They love life."
-- Saudi Sheikh Abd Al-Muhsin Al-Qassem in Al-Madina

"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."
-- Hassan Nasrallah, Leader of Hezbollah

"The death of over 120 white people is a very beautiful thing."
-- Malcolm X, Los Angeles on June 3, 1962 upon learning of a plane crash

Death cult is correct.

You ARE a looney, as is you mentor, Aunty Bwian the pseudo-intellectual mail order doctor of divinity (his vanity know no bounds and you are following in his footsteps).

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Frank on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:45pm

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 10:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Genius. We should get rid of politics, not Islam.

You can see where the $20 went for the mail-order doctor of divinity title.
The cost of genius.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Auggie on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:49pm

Soren, perhaps you can tell me how a person becomes sociopathic by reading a text? I've read the Quran many times and I haven't become drawn in to it.

Don't you think there's a bit of psychopathy at play?

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by freediver on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:51pm

Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:45pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 10:57pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Genius. We should get rid of politics, not Islam.

You can see where the $20 went for the mail-order doctor of divinity title.
The cost of genius.

Brian was close, but no cigar. Humans are the problem. If we can get rid of them, we won't have to hurt Brian's feelings any more by pointing out that Muhammad was a warmongering douchebag.

Problem solved.

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 9:55pm

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

Genius. We should get rid of politics, not Islam.

You'll never get rid of it, FD. People like you always bring it back. Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by moses on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 2:45pm

Quote:

perhaps you can tell me how a person becomes sociopathic by reading a text? I've read the Quran many times and I haven't become drawn in to it.

Don't you think there's a bit of psychopathy at play?

Did you begin like these kids?

Amazing Qur'an recitation with Muslim Kids

Is it true that Muslim children can recite the whole Quran?

Reciting Quran to infants - Islam web - English

Children recite the qur'an

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 2:49pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 28^th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

You can read lots of things Auggie.
Your reaction depends on how you've been brought up, your IQ, your knowledge base etc, etc, etc...

Perhaps you should learn how Muslim children are brought up...

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 2:54pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udDXUZEYUIc

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 2:56pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCQEmeGfFmY

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 2:59pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 3:05pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLoFzKhE-o

Title: Re: Islamophobe’s Logic
Post by Grendel on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 3:16pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOcx9wLBVi4

and on and on and on and on and on.... ad infinitum :D