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Title: The New Edward Snowden Drone Wars
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 2:55pm
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/new-edward-snowden-whistleblower-leaks-documents-on-us-drone-killings-34112880.html

New Edward Snowden? Whistleblower leaks documents on US drone killings

Strikes carried out 'based on unreliable intel'
90% of those killed were not intended target
One strike killed 219 people - only 35 were 'targets'
Same team released Snowden documents




A whistleblower, branded the new Edward Snowden, has leaked documents on the US drone program to The Intercept website
Classified documents, leaked to investigative news website The Intercept, have revealed the inner workings of the secret US drone program in the Middle East and Central Asia.

A source from within the US intelligence community leaked the documents which appear to undermine American claims that drone strikes have been precise.

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The files describe in detail how many people are consulted before President Obama signs off on the order.

The whistleblower, who has already been labelled as the new 'Edward Snowden' on social media, said the public has the right to know about the process by which people are placed on 'kill lists' and "ultimately assassinated on orders from the highest echelons of the US government."

Since taking office in 2009, Obama has expanded the drone program, authorising many more strikes than his predecessor, George W Bush.

The source told The Intercept: "This outrageous explosion of watchlisting — of monitoring people and racking and stacking them on lists, assigning them numbers, assigning them ‘baseball cards,’ assigning them death sentences without notice, on a worldwide battlefield — it was, from the very first instance, wrong.”

The leaked papers appear to show that drone strikes were often carried out based on insufficient and unreliable intelligence and when executed, often compromise further gathering of intelligence.

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The documents reveal that during Operation Haymaker in Afghanistan, drone strikes on 35 'targets' killed at least 219 other people. During a five-month stretch of the operation, a 90 per cent of those killed by the drones were not the intended target.

The deaths were recorded as 'EKIA' (enemy killed in action).

"The military is easily capable of adapting to change, but they don’t like to stop anything they feel is making their lives easier, or is to their benefit. And this certainly is, in their eyes, a very quick, clean way of doing things. It’s a very slick, efficient way to conduct the war, without having to have the massive ground invasion mistakes of Iraq and Afghanistan.

"But at this point, they have become so addicted to this machine, to this way of doing business, that it seems like it’s going to become harder and harder to pull them away from it the longer they’re allowed to continue operating in this way."

The documents, slides and analysis were posted on the website on Thursday as 'The Drone Papers'.

International lawyers argue that air strikes using drones are state-sanctioned assassinations where the targeted suspected terrorist has no opportunity to defend the case against them.

Last month David Cameron disclosed that an RAF drone had killed two Britons in an attack near the city of Raqqa, describing it as an "act of self defence".

Reyaad Khan, from Cardiff, the primary target, and Ruhul Amin, from Aberdeen, died on August 21.

Announcing the operation, the Prime Minister said it was "entirely lawful" and confirmed that the Government's senior law officer, Attorney General Jeremy Wright, was consulted and "was clear there would be a clear legal basis for action in international law".

Ministers have resisted calls for the full advice to be published.

The Intercept, run and edited by Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras, and Jeremy Scahill. The same journalists who worked with Snowden on his disclosures about US global surveillance by the National Security Agency.

Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden contacted journalist Greenwald in 2012 with 'sensitive documents'. He then contacted film-maker Poitras in 2013 and began working with both of them to disclose the documents on US global surveillance.

The Intercept, created and funded by eBay founder Pierre Omidyar, has not revealed their new source, but at the end of Citizenfour, the documentary about Snowden, Greenwald talks about a new source who is talking to Scahill. Snowden tells Greenwald: ‘That person is incredibly bold’.

The full report on the leaked documents and US drone program can be viewed on the website here.

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers

Title: Re: The New Edward Snowden Drone Wars
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 2:55pm
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/the-assassination-complex/

THE ASSASSINATION COMPLEXSECRET MILITARY DOCUMENTS EXPOSE THE INNER WORKINGS OF OBAMA’S DRONE WARS

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THE DRONE PAPERS

01. THE ASSASSINATION COMPLEX
02. A VISUAL GLOSSARY
03. THE KILL CHAIN
04. FIND, FIX, FINISH
05. MANHUNTING IN THE HINDU KUSH
06. FIRING BLIND
07. THE LIFE AND DEATH OF OBJECTIVE PECKHAM
08. TARGET AFRICA
ARTICLE №1 OF 8
THE DRONE PAPERS
Jeremy Scahill
Oct. 15 2015, 9:57 p.m.
From his first days as commander in chief, the drone has been President Barack Obama’s weapon of choice, used by the military and the CIA to hunt down and kill the people his administration has deemed — through secretive processes, without indictment or trial — worthy of execution. There has been intense focus on the technology of remote killing, but that often serves as a surrogate for what should be a broader examination of the state’s power over life and death.

Title: Re: The New Edward Snowden Drone Wars
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 3:00pm
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/a-visual-glossary/

The first bomb dropped from an airplane exploded in an oasis outside Tripoli on November 1, 1911.¹

While flying over Ain Zara, Libya, Lieutenant Giulio Gavotti leaned out of his airplane, which looked like a dragonfly, and dropped a Haasen hand grenade. It landed “in the camp of the enemy, with good results.”

One hundred years later, the bombing is done by pilotless planes. They are controlled remotely, often half a world away. We have come to call them “drones.”

On the inside, people call them “birds.”



Operators can watch their targets for hours, often from air-conditioned rooms, until they receive the order to fire. When the time is right, a room full of people watch as the shot is taken.

This is where they sit.



OBJECTIVES

Most of the time, drone operators are trying to kill someone specific. They call these people—the people being hunted—“objectives.”

What does an objective look like? Here’s an example.





This timeline was for a man named Bilal el-Berjawi. Intelligence agencies watched him for years, then the British government stripped him of his citizenship.

After calling his wife, who had just given birth in a London hospital, Berjawi was killed by an American drone strike. Some people thought the call might have given away his location, but the drones already knew where he was.

This was his car.



JACKPOT

When drone operators hit their target, killing the person they intend to kill, that person is called a “jackpot.”

When they miss their target and end up killing someone else, they label that person EKIA, or “enemy killed in action.”



EKIA

Over a five-month period, U.S. forces used drones and other aircraft to kill 155 people in northeastern Afghanistan. They achieved 19 jackpots. Along the way, they killed at least 136 other people, all of whom were classified as EKIA, or enemies killed in action.



Note the “%” column. It is the number of jackpots (JPs) divided by the number of operations. A 70 percent success rate. But it ignores well over a hundred other people killed along the way.

This means that almost 9 out of 10 people killed in these strikes were not the intended targets.

Title: Re: The New Edward Snowden Drone Wars
Post by innocentbystander. on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 3:04pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 3:00pm:
This means that almost 9 out of 10 people killed in these strikes were not the intended targets.



Sh!t happens.

Title: Re: The New Edward Snowden Drone Wars
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 3:52pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 3:00pm:
This means that almost 9 out of 10 people killed in these strikes were not the intended targets.



Sh!t happens.



Title: Re: The New Edward Snowden Drone Wars
Post by Yadda on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 5:29pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 22nd, 2015 at 2:55pm:

New Edward Snowden? Whistleblower leaks documents on US drone killings


Strikes carried out 'based on unreliable intel'
90% of those killed were not intended target
One strike killed 219 people - only 35 were 'targets'
Same team released Snowden documents





And yet, moslems [THEMSELVES!] consider every moslem man, every moslem woman, and every moslem child, to be committed combatants, who [as 'believers'] must fight and kill for ISLAM, when called on to do so.



EVIDENCE which substantiates that claim ?

EVIDENCE #1,

SEE THE IMAGES OF HAMAS CHILD COMBATANTS, AT THIS LINK.

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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1296163674/58#58

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EVIDENCE #2,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1443403858/0#0
AND;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1443403858/10#10




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EVIDENCE #3,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1441436180/31#31





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EVIDENCE #4 [that ISLAM's rules of war, make it 'lawful' for moslems to target and kill, women and children, and other civilians],

Sudanese Cleric Al-Jazouli [a supporter of ISIS] declares in the YOUTUBE presentation [below]:
That it is lawful for the moslem to kill, for example, Australian civilians - men, women, and children.
It is Jihad.



[recorded 20-July-2014]
Sudanese Cleric Al-Jazouli:
"In its war with the infidels,

ISLAM recognises no distinction between regular armies and civilians.....

Thus, killing their woman and children is permitted. [by authority of Allah's messenger - Mohammed]

America is fighting [ISLAM] and there are countries that are allied with it [America]. [the moslem can and should, target America, and every nation that has allied with it. I guess that means it is lawful for the moslem to kill Australians too.]"

...and he goes on, there are lotsa virgins in Allah's paradise waiting for you, etc, etc.


Sudanese Cleric Al-Jazouli: Islam Permits Killing American Women and Children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB_D9E1vutY





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EVIDENCE #5,




Quote:
Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.

"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam.

Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior).

Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."


An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php




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EVIDENCE #6 [that ISLAM's rules of war, make it 'lawful' for moslems to target and kill, women and children, and other civilians],


Quote:

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents.

Only between Muslims and unbelievers.

And the life of an unbeliever has no value.

It has no sanctity
."
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true




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EVIDENCE #7 [that ISLAM's rules of war, make it 'lawful' for moslems to target and kill, women and children, and other civilians],

"The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger.

The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." "
bukhari/ 004.052.256





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